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March 18th, 2009

IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring

Posted by Dana Gardner @ 5:52 am

Categories: Cisco, Enterprise Java, HP, Hardware Infrastructure, IBM, Java, Linux, Microsoft, Open Source, Oracle, Software Development, Software Infrastructure, Wall Street, convergence, database, datacenters

Tags: Sun Microsystems Inc., IBM Corp., Nope, Data Centers, Sales Strategy, Mergers & Acquisitions, Open Source, Databases, Storage, Hardware

Someone has floated a trial balloon, through a leak to the Wall Street Journal, that IBM is in “talks” to buy Sun Microsystems for $6.5 billion. The only party that would leak this information is Sun itself, and it smacks of desperation in trying to thwart an unwanted acquisition, or to positively impact another deal that Sun is weak in.

If IBM wanted to buy Sun it would have done so years ago, at least on the merits of synergy and technology. If IBM wanted to buy Sun simply to trash the company, plunder the spoils and do it on the cheap — the time for that was last fall.

So more likely, given that Sun has reportedly been shopping itself around (nice severance packages for the top brass, no doubt), is that Sun has been too successful at selling itself — just to the wrong party at too low of a price. This may even be in the form of a chop shop takeover. The only thing holding up a hostile takeover of Sun to sell for spare parts over the past six months was the credit crunch, and the fact that private equity firms have had some distractions.

By buying Sun IBM gains little other than some intellectual property and mySQL. IBM could have bought mySQL or open sourced DB2 or a subset of DB2 any time, if it wanted to go that route. IBM has basically already played its open source hand, which it did masterfully at just the right time. Sun, on the other hand, played (or forced) its open source hand poorly, and at the wrong time. What’s the value to Sun for having “gone open source”? Zip. Owning Java is not a business model, or not enough of one to help Sun meaningfully.

So, does IBM need chip architectures from Sun? Nope, has their own. Access to markets from Sun’s long-underperforming sales force? Nope. Unix? IBM has one. Linux? IBM was there first. Engineering skills? Nope. Storage technology? Nope. Head-start on cloud implementations? Nope. Java license access or synergy? Nope, too late. Sun’s deep and wide professional services presence worldwide? Nope. Ha!

Let’s see … hardware, software, technology, sales, cloud, labor, market reach … none makes sense for IBM to buy Sun — at any price. IBM does just fine by continuing to watch the sun set on Sun. Same for Oracle, SAP, Microsoft, HP.

With due respect to Larry Dignan on ZDNet, none of his reasons add up in dollars and cents. No way. Sun has fallen too far over the years for these rationales to stand up. UPDATE: Tony Baer likes Fujitsu as Sun savior.

Only in playing some offense via data center product consolidation against HP and Dell would buying Sun help IBM. And the math doesn’t add up there. The cost of getting Sun is more than the benefits of taking money from enterprise accounts from others. [Disclosure: HP is a sponsor of BriefingsDirect podcasts.]

The cost of Sun is not cheap, or at least not cheap like a free puppy. Taking over Sun for technology and market spoils ignores the long-term losses to be absorbed, the decimated workforce, the fact that Cisco will now eat Sun’s lunch as have the other server makers for more than five years.

So who might by Sun on the cheap, before Sun’s next financial report to Wall Street? Cisco, Dell, EMC, Red Hat. That’s about it for vendors. And it would be a big risk for them, unless the price tag were cheap, cheap, cheap. Anything under $4 billion might make sense. Might.

Other buyers could come in the form of carriers, cloud providers or other infrastructure service provider types. This is a stretch, because even cheap Sun would come with a lot of baggage for their needs. Another scenario is a multi-party deal, of breaking up Sun among several different kinds of firms. This also is hugely risky.

So my theory — and it’s just a guess — is that today’s trial balloon on an IBM deal is a last-ditch effort by Sun to find, solidify, or up the price on some other acquisition or exit strategy by Sun. The risk of such market shenanigans only underscores the depths of Sun’s malaise. The management at Sun probably sees its valuation sinking yet gain to below tangible assets and cash value when it releases it’s next quarterly performance results. … Soon.

The economic crisis has come at a worst time for Sun than just about any other larger IT vendor. Sun, no matter what happens, will go for a fire sale deal — not a deal of strength among healthy synergistic partners. No way.

Dana GardnerDana Gardner is principal analyst of Interarbor Solutions. For disclosures on Dana's industry affiliations, click here or to view his full profile click here.

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RE: IBM buying , it's a red herring
As we come out of the current economic cycle (not sure when the plane will pull up) merger and acquisition activity will increase in the market.This is an ideal time to reorganise set a new strategy ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: The Management consultant Posted on: 04/07/09  (Edited: 04/07/09 @ 08:40) You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Databases galore  jrp@... | 03/18/09
Yep, agreed  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  wjarvis@... | 03/18/09
only IBM makes sense  Linux Geek | 03/18/09
Math still doesn't work  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
I disagree...  914four | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  vulpine@... | 03/18/09
Apple?  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
I didn't say they were, ...  vulpine@... | 03/19/09
APPLES and APPLES... Makes sense after all  nuno@... | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  mnix | 03/18/09
True  rarivera@... | 03/18/09
Sun=Bank theft ibm = Genecide....  VONDRASHEK@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  super_J | 03/18/09
Adjust the math  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
Remember MSFT-Yahoo  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
a deal is closer than you think..  scotth_z | 03/21/09
Hostil acquisitions  The Management consultant | 03/18/09
Actually, Dell Is The Buyer.  panzrwagn | 03/18/09
makes sense ...  super_J | 03/18/09
I'll buy that  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
Why would IBM play spoiler?  Anton Philidor | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  armanmg@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  super_J | 03/18/09
IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes perfect sense  scotth_z | 03/18/09
Still a longshot  gardner.dana@... | 03/18/09
It's about hardware sales...  scotth_z | 03/18/09
IBM? No way! - Even Google makes more sense!  tyelmene | 03/18/09
A smarter team would be  FearTheDonut | 03/18/09
Sun would rather go bankrupt than MS  nuno@... | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  Patgiff | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  hillis@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  ravi@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  jordjarn@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  jordjarn@... | 03/18/09
RE: IBM buying Something else  sfaid | 03/18/09
Apple + Sun Makes A Better Fit  z3r0_f4ct0r | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  cvquesty | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  RTTECH82 | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  satroy | 03/19/09
Just look 5 years in future  aboogy.com | 03/19/09
Sun also has Storage  914four | 03/19/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  wheresjbob | 03/20/09
RE: IBM buying Sun Microsystems makes no sense, it's a red herring  wheresjbob | 03/20/09
RE: IBM buying , it's a red herring  The Management consultant | 04/07/09

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