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March 5th, 2008

Costs: Wintel vs. open source

Posted by Paul Murphy @ 12:15 am

Categories: Enterprise Policy, General, Productivity, Sun, Wintel vs Lintel

Tags: Wintel, Hewlett-Packard Co., Open Source, That, It, Paul Murphy

One of the true wonders of our age is the ability lots of otherwise reasonable people have to tell you with every evidence of believing it themselves that PCs cost a few hundred bucks and last for years - and then go off to spend well over a thousand replacing last year’s product.

That’s not, mind you, the only reality defying miracle in sight: the realities of both mass production and retail distribution mean that fully assembled products always retail for less than the sum of their parts - except among Wintel enthusiasts. Thus a $90 lawn mower contains over $600 in retail parts, but lots of Wintel people really believe they can assemble a $400 PC from retail parts - including a Windows license and a processor wholesaling for $939 in lots of 10,000 - for a lot less than $400.

These delusions would be of interest only to social historians and psychologists if they didn’t have some nasty consequences - including their effect on the politics of big company decision making. It’s a lot easier, and personally less risky, for example, to get a dumb Wintel decision approved than a smart SPARC or open source one.

Imagine, for example, going to senior management for out of budget approval on a new machine intended to handle an exploding web/OLTP workload. In my experience, proposals to put in another Wintel box like an HP 580G5 will slide right through - but proposing an UltraSPARC machine running open source applications will not only expose you to pointed questions and outright antagonism from people in Finance and other management roles, but leave you personally responsible for any problems that ever come up with it if it does get approved.

To get some very rough impression of what this costs companies today, check out this cost and performance comparison between a Sun T2 running an all open source stack and an HP DL580 running roughly the same job using Microsoft software.

Both machines had 64GB of RAM and four of the same 12 x 146GB external storage arrays. The SPARC server had one T2 CPU at 1.4Ghz, the HP four quad core Xeons at 2.93Ghx, one ran an entirely open source stack, the other only Microsoft software.

The HP/Wintel system cost $204K, the UltraSPARC $131 (64% of the PC cost). More importantly, the T2 produced more than twice the Xeon’s throughput on the iGEN OLTP 1.6 benchmark and beat the HP by a factor of eight on SWaP (= Perf /[ Space (RU) x Watts ] )

The savings, about $70,000 up front and a few hundred a month in operations, don’t amount to much in terms of big company IT budgets - but most companies big enough to use this stuff at all use quite a lot of it. Look at this as an open source dividend over five years and compare the cost of 50 of the HPs to 25 Suns and you’re looking at nearly seven million bucks up front and another ten thousand or so per month - enough for another engineering group, a new sales office, even a new production line: whatever makes the money for the business.

This example focuses on comparing Wintel costs to SPARC/open source costs for typical OLTP and web processing but a comparable cost case exists for Cell/Linux versus Wintel on science side processing - and there’s really no contest in either case. On both price and performance the non Wintel, opensource, combination beats Wintel hands down on jobs large enough to matter.

So why does Wintel continue? because of mistaken beliefs - including most importantly the belief that other people believe in it - and that’s bad for you, bad for the economy, and bad for your employer. Why? because when people base IT decisions on delusions they forgo the opportunity to generate competitive advantage from IT, and foreclose the option of spending an available open source dividend on more productive activities.

Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (a pseudonym) is an IT consultant specializing in Unix and related technologies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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Very Good point
I think alot of people forget that a RedHat server is actualy more exspensive than 2008 (alot more than 2003). Especialy as you can get cal-licences for windows, but most pro unix/linux fan's are eith... (Read the rest)
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Hmm, its that alternate reality again.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/05/08
Yes - that's a real problem  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
Because  bportlock | 03/05/08
Depends...  Erik Engbrecht | 03/05/08
Yep (NT)  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
Lots of impact on SME's too!  SpikeyMike | 06/05/08
Very Good point  jdbukis@... | 04/13/09
Good Article  dave.leigh@... | 03/05/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 03/05/08
Regret I don't like the new setup either  Ross44 | 03/05/08
Terrible levering of two interchangeables!!  techboy_z | 03/05/08
Why not Lintel?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
I'm afraid I still don't get your point....  techboy_z | 03/05/08
Yes . .. and no  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
Hmmm...dubious...  techboy_z | 03/05/08
Read my lips: (please!)  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
Yeah, but so what?  techboy_z | 03/05/08
Perhaps  Spats30 | 03/05/08
RE: Why not Lintel?  richdave | 03/12/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  Matt Bolyard | 03/05/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  carlino | 03/05/08
Umm..  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
But  bmgoodman | 03/05/08
A matter of scale  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
exactly and watch the costs skyrocket  GeiselS@... | 03/05/08
Goes both ways  voska1 | 03/05/08
hidden costs of incompetence  shis-ka-bob | 03/05/08
Exactly...  storm14k | 03/05/08
Narrow Sighted  GeiselS@... | 03/05/08
Gimme a break already!  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
Point 1  voska1 | 03/05/08
All those costs  voska1 | 03/05/08
"... competitive advantage..."  Anton Philidor | 03/05/08
Obama needs you!  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
The Right Agenda  Harry Bardal | 03/05/08
Arguing to your audience  Anton Philidor | 03/05/08
Carr believes everybody gets the same thing  Mark Miller | 03/07/08
"..invisibility..."  civikminded | 03/05/08
An assumed resource  Anton Philidor | 03/06/08
And you have ....  ShadeTree | 03/05/08
umm.. on reflection  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 03/05/08
Sure he is!  ShadeTree | 03/06/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  Spats30 | 03/05/08
Why do you bother?  tonymcs@... | 03/05/08
Um, actually....  techboy_z | 03/06/08
You disagree with yourself.  seosamh_z | 03/06/08
Awww crap Murph you're killing me  Johnny Vegas | 03/05/08
You mean Nick Carr was wrong?  Mark Miller | 03/06/08
Agreed - (NT)  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/06/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  kpthottam@... | 03/06/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  jpratchios@... | 03/06/08
That's right! and that's right too..  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/06/08
You disagree with yourself.  seosamh_z | 03/06/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  jpratchios@... | 03/06/08
It just costs time  Boot_Agnostic | 03/06/08
RE: Costs: Wintel Vs. OpenSource  Guy Smiley | 03/07/08
Why?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/08/08
Because...  Guy Smiley | 03/10/08
Wow, I actually agree with you...  bjbrock | 06/05/08

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