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August 19th, 2008

Excel and Basic Accounting Error

Posted by Paul Murphy @ 12:15 am

Categories: Applications, Enterprise Policy, General, Government, Unanswered questions, Wintel vs Lintel

Tags: Revenue, Accounting, Restatement, Compliance, Microsoft Excel, Spreadsheet, Operational Accounting, Revenue Recognition, Productivity, Financial Services

From CA Magazine:

Do spreadsheets lead to compliance failures?

A full 92% of all US public companies use spreadsheets for critical accounting activities in their revenue reporting processes, according to a recent survey of financial executives. And that increases the likelihood of compliance failures and financial restatements. The research, which involved 685 companies, was conducted by www.RevenueRecognition.com and IDC and sponsored by Softrax Corp.

Revenue spreadsheets: the compliance killers

The reason for widespread spreadsheet use, says the survey, is that key revenue recognition and reporting tasks are still not automated in financial/ERP systems. Only 8% of all responding companies say they are able to complete their revenue reporting process without having to take data offline and into spreadsheets. The rest of the surveyed companies use spreadsheets, which are prone to errors, lack audit capabilities and resist internal controls.

According to the survey, more than half of all companies use spreadsheets to create their accounting entries for revenue. Other spreadsheet-based tasks include revenue scheduling, allocation and redistribution based on accounting guidelines. Surprisingly, public companies with more than $200 million in revenue are substantially more reliant than the overall sample on spreadsheets for revenue accounting entries.

From Revenue Recognition.com:

Revenue Recognition Restatements Increase 42% as Basic Accounting Errors Plague Reporting

Revenue recognition restatements increased 42% from 2002 to 2006 leading to a lot of speculation about the underlying causes. With all the hype about Sarbanes-Oxley, increased auditor scrutiny, and complex guidelines it is surprising to learn that mundane internal errors were the leading cause of restatements from 2003 to 2006. That’s the conclusion of a new report entitled “An Analysis of the Underlying Causes of Restatements” by Marlene Plumlee, University of Utah and Teri Lombardi Yohn from Indiana University.

The authors analyzed 3,744 disclosures related to each restatement to identify and categorize the underlying causes. Of restatements caused by revenue recognition errors, approximately: 57% were due to a basic internal error, 28% were due to some characteristic of the accounting standards, 13% were due to intentional manipulation, and 2% were due to transaction complexity. That would make over half of all revenue recognition restatements avoidable if companies had better procedures for performing, monitoring, and controlling their revenue processes.

Bottom line?

User spreadsheet abuse leads to compliance failure - and can be largely attributed to IT’s failure to gain top management support for the provision and use of adequate integrated ERP/SCM and related functionality in central systems.

Speculation: the symptoms, frequent restatement requirements, are heavily correlated with large client-server installs. And why do I think that? because if you implement something like Oracle’s combined ERP/SCM suite on Sun with tools like Hyperion for real time, cross functional, reporting you won’t need Excel or any other PC client tools to get your reports out - but if you implement that same suite using Windows client-server you not only invite “power users” into the hen house, but I don’t think you can actually get the reports out without them.

Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (a pseudonym) is an IT consultant specializing in Unix and related technologies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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RE: No they aren't
I think a lot of people fail to understand what laura.b is trying to express. Rather than cause your eyes to glaze over, I will cite an example of "assumptions" made by an application developer.
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Posted by: bfilipiak@... Posted on: 08/20/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
We should go back to manual ledgers...  TheTruthGiver | 08/19/08
It's not just power users....  palmwarrior | 08/19/08
What's the Alternative?  kurio99 | 08/19/08
Larger publicly owned companies  Michael Kelly | 08/19/08
In many cases  GuidingLight | 08/19/08
Agreed - another people + organization problem  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Reports From Travel Among the Small Business World  DannyO_0x98 | 08/19/08
Very small businesses  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Perl DBI and Spreadsheet::WriteExcel()  D. T. Schmitz | 08/19/08
Is There Nothing Perl Can't Do?  DannyO_0x98 | 08/19/08
Not that I know of  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Trust me, it can do the heavy-lifting for you  D. T. Schmitz | 08/19/08
Why do you think that?  GuidingLight | 08/19/08
It takes a lot of hits...  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Troll is accurate  Salonikios | 08/19/08
How many non-Excel spreadsheets are there?  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
So take Excel away  mdemuth | 08/19/08
because spreadsheet abuse is a symptom  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
You have it wrong way around.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 08/19/08
That's riduculous  rapson | 08/19/08
Yes - and no  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
No that's not it.  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Are the "PC power users" wrong?  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
Usually, yes.  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
If power users are wrong...  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
It has nothing to do with Power Users  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
8 percent is surprising...  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Hyperion  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
How would you rate Hyperion?  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Rating Hyperion  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Thanks! (NT)  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
I agree on the overuse.  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
You're way off the mark  laura.b | 08/19/08
I agree - nearly 100%  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
What errors?  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Use of IEEE is a pretty big problem  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Oh, man...that's the daggone truth.  laura.b | 08/19/08
Decimal  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Yes...  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
It does...but  laura.b | 08/19/08
Your claim is ABSOLUTELY FALSE  bmerc | 08/20/08
Check out Rob Weir's stuff  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Oh come on. Give me some errors. This is a gripe.  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
It is an error  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Avoid it.  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
No, sir  laura.b | 08/19/08
Ah, Laura? I was agreeing with you  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
I follow  laura.b | 08/19/08
Good article, I agree.  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Murph, the problem is...  bmerc | 08/20/08
Slight correction  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Yes, I wasn't clear  laura.b | 08/19/08
More than a replacement for paper.  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
Oh, yeah  laura.b | 08/19/08
Slight correction  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
Ooops repeat  DevGuy_z | 08/19/08
I heard a rant like that once...  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
A year later the process was the same?  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
More or less...  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Hmmm...  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
New management was installed first  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
This isn't clerical work  laura.b | 08/19/08
I don't doubt that it is complex  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
ROFL!!!!!!  laura.b | 08/19/08
I understand...but it really is  laura.b | 08/19/08
The methods are broken  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
No, they aren't  laura.b | 08/19/08
Inherent exceptions; example from law  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
Elegance  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
RE: No they aren't  bfilipiak@... | 08/20/08
Systems are expressions of ideas  Anton Philidor | 08/19/08
Cheerfully agreeing with both sides  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Windmills  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Wrong  laura.b | 08/19/08
Root of the problem  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
This is doublespeak...  bmerc | 08/20/08
Agree, accountants no worse or better than the rest  Ross44 | 08/19/08
Disagree completely  croberts | 08/19/08
SAP?! what are you, nuts?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 08/19/08
Ack!  Erik Engbrecht | 08/19/08
Actually, MS Grove is much better  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/19/08
And people with calculators make mistakes...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/19/08
Computers used to be people  tonymcs@... | 08/19/08
Now it's MS fault companies have accounting errors...Geez...  transposeIT | 08/19/08

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