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February 8th, 2007

UFOs, Global Warming, and AI

Posted by Paul Murphy @ 12:15 am

Categories: General, Unanswered questions

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A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object and it's rather obvious that there really are quite a lot of those around. I've seen them, and I'll bet you have too - the issue, of course, is that most people use the term to mean something else entirely: an artifact of non human intelligence, typically a space ship piloted by aliens.

Watch one of Discovery Channels' UFO "investigations" or review some ufology websites and I think you'll be struck by the absolute sincerity with which large numbers of otherwise sane and reasonable people hold indefensibly self contradictory views.

One question I like to ask believers, for example, is why spaceships capable of crossing inter-stellar space have such poor reliability that one crashes to earth every couple of years? Another is why the in-system arrival or departure of an inter-stellar transport wouldn't have to be a high energy event easily detectable by the millions of amateur astronomers around the world?

The answers are never reasoned, always emotional, defensive, and correspondingly dismissive -a reality that usually raises the emotional temperature of the discussion past the point of diminishing returns.

You see the same effect with global warming believers. Like the UFO business, global warming conflates two issues: whether significant world wide climate change is happening, and whether this is at least partially caused by human activity. Scratch a ufologist and you'll usually find someone who's trying to prove the existence of extra-terrestrial visitors to earth rather than someone trying to identify unrecognized flying objects. Scratch a global warming believer and you'll find someone trying to affix blame for climate change rather than someone trying to understand or evaluate climate change.

Point out to a Canadian happy to ignore massive Chinese pollution in order to blame world wide climate change on Republicans driving SUVs that Mars appears to be undergoing some form of rapid climate warming too, or that the historical record supports a cyclic view of climate, and the responses you get won't be reasoned: they'll be emotional, defensive, and correspondingly dismissive -a reality that usually raises the emotional temperature of the discussion past the point of diminishing returns.

So how does that fit with the idea, from yesterday's blog, that a true AI could function through pattern matches, with the patterns built up, and continually modified, as summary representations of billions of stimulus-response-evaluation triplets? Easy: look at the evaluation criteria - crowds suffer delusions, turning into irrational mobs, because actions which avoid negative emotional responses evaluate highly, growing in power like snowballs or particle cascades as consensus grows.

All of which has a terrible, bottom line, implication for the AI field: the biggest challenge isn't in building an AI, it's in keeping it from going mad.

 

Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (a pseudonym) is an IT consultant specializing in Unix and related technologies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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On the "hockey stick" and other matters
I know people who support the CO2-only theory of global warming are skeptical of Michael Crichton, but I think he does a good job of showing just how shakey the science is, at Read the rest)
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head, sand and sticking  Zen380 | 02/08/07
What I would like to see is the link between ...  ShadeTree | 02/08/07
In a few words  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Emotional in what way?  Zen380 | 02/08/07
How abou the title of the post for one  ShadeTree | 02/08/07
ridiculous huh?  Zen380 | 02/09/07
Dirty Harry  ghooton | 02/08/07
650k years isn't so long...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
A Little Off On An Otherwise Good Response  jcawley | 02/08/07
Rightly said...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
Correction  rapson | 02/08/07
No, I meant what I said  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
I understand  rapson | 02/09/07
Basic tenets of religion  Erik Engbrecht | 02/09/07
It is trickier  rapson | 02/09/07
Excellent summary  rapson | 02/08/07
its not short either....  Zen380 | 02/08/07
Logic smoothing.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Grammar police  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
What a mishmash  d10ckMan | 02/08/07
That jig's up - sorry about that  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
But it is about global warming..  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Good arguments, and well put  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
ET Planets and back to AI  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Right! and on topic too  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Postscript  rapson | 02/08/07
Why discount our contribution?  d10ckMan | 02/08/07
There are as many climatologists that disagree ...  ShadeTree | 02/08/07
Won't be for too long.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
And why do climatologists disagree?  d10ckMan | 02/08/07
Logical leaps  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Leaps of your own.  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Those aren't merits.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Exactly  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Also, a newspaper article about an energy company...  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Shills and others  jtmodel | 02/08/07
"... preponderance of evidence" is supportable.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
that "hockey stick" was a fraud  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
"Hockey stick a fraud"?  d10ckMan | 02/08/07
On the "hockey stick" and other matters  Mark Miller | 02/14/07
of course...  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
An argument I haven't seen  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
Actually - the evidence suggests several other things  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
"most cherished principles"  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Canada wins...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
Or...  rapson | 02/09/07
Very true...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/12/07
Responses...  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
Mostly yes, one big no  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Stop here  Richard Flude | 02/08/07
"... preponderance of evidence" is supportable.  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Incinerating effigies.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Quotes  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
And the trick in the UN report...  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Again  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Confidence in results.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Confidence  jtmodel | 02/08/07
The percentages are a measure of emotional response.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Thanks  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Wow, Anton...  rapson | 02/08/07
But  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Nothing has changed  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
Standard FUD  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Yup...FUD...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
Yes and No  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Good premise  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Hockey Stick  jtmodel | 02/08/07
ah, josh?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
not really  Zen380 | 02/09/07
Really?  gtdavies33@... | 02/08/07
The real issue behind the global warming debate  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
Hope the analogy is incorrect...  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
Which analogy?  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
Does Anton have positions?  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
Yes.  Anton Philidor | 02/08/07
A great discussion - but .. AI?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Tip of the Hat  perryroyce@... | 02/08/07
"Intuitive leap"  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Hunches  perryroyce@... | 02/08/07
Data Mining?  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Sort of...  John L. Ries | 02/08/07
Neither do people...  Erik Engbrecht | 02/09/07
AI  Erik Engbrecht | 02/08/07
kinda like us, eh?  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 02/08/07
Very much like us  jtmodel | 02/08/07
For sure,  jtmodel | 02/08/07
Bit police have found me  Roger Ramjet | 02/08/07
Government is too busy..  IAHawkeye | 02/11/07
Great article Murph.  IAHawkeye | 02/11/07

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