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March 5th, 2007

Re-labelling Sun Ray to sell

Posted by Paul Murphy @ 12:15 am

Categories: Enterprise Policy, General, Sun

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Sun's Sun Ray smart display has an unhappy marketing history in that Sun sells the thing in volume to defence and other genuinely security conscious environments, but has never made much headway with it in other natural markets such as schools and businesses.

A big part of the reason is that most of Sun's own sales people desperately don't want to sell it - they want to sell what's selling, and that isn't going to include anything compelling the IT managers they deal with to layoff most of their staff and go back to actually working in IT.

Sun's own marketing reflects and extends that conflict: by labelling the Sun Ray a "client" they contradict the fundamental Sun Ray architecture while burdening the machine with a lot of expectational baggage from the Microsoft client-server world that simply doesn't apply.

So what should they call it? I've been using the term "smart display architecture" for the kind of user controlled system Sun Rays enable since well before Microsoft grabbed the label "smart display" for something that was really rather stupid - producing a situation in which "Smart Display" is the most meaningful label, but Microsoft's misuse of the term has destroyed its value.

So what should Sun call the thing? A talkback comment from p_msac last week suggests a possible answer.

Here's the operative bit:

The enterprise scenario [consists of] a lot of disfunctional and isolated applications, [mainly] from MS, that focus simply on the Desktop PC.

That is why they call it the Magic word: Personal Computer. Not Enterprise Computer.

And [it] is this view of the "personal" computer that costs a fortune to companies in terms of productivity.

Sun already sells enterprise computers, and SuSe offers a software "enterprise desktop", but here's an idea for Sun's Jonathan Schwartz: stop hobbling Sun Ray sales with that "client" label, call it an enterprise something - desktop, display, screen - and sell it in bundles with enterprise servers and enterprise software from partners like Oracle.

 

Paul MurphyPaul Murphy (a pseudonym) is an IT consultant specializing in Unix and related technologies. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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Not applicable
Then your definition of a user excludes such a large portion of the people at my >120k person employer that it is essentially useless.

I imagine the same would be true for the professional employees of Roger's former employer.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Erik Engbrecht Posted on: 03/07/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Call it whatever you want.  ShadeTree | 03/05/07
Can it do M$ Office?  Roger Ramjet | 03/05/07
Wrong - and wrong and...  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Forgot.. re java cards are expensive  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Rudy, you have to understand..  junknstuff@... | 03/05/07
Laptops make no sense?  Erik Engbrecht | 03/05/07
I'm talking about users - not developers  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Hmmm...  Erik Engbrecht | 03/05/07
yes - you are (not) a user  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/06/07
It's not...  mwgillespie@... | 03/07/07
Not applicable  Erik Engbrecht | 03/07/07
It should be called the "Personal Network Desktop", to emphasize, that it  DonnieBoy | 03/05/07
Can do that now  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Why not call it "crap"?  Anton Philidor | 03/05/07
What? I thought.. it was karp [ping] [NT]  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Watch out ...  p_msac@... | 03/05/07
They aren't selling terminals  rapson | 03/05/07
Sun Rays aren't terminals  murph_zZDNet Moderator | 03/05/07
Coolheads  toadlife | 03/05/07
Changing the mindset is always difficult.  p_msac@... | 03/05/07
Virtual Desktop  Burana | 03/05/07

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