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July 25th, 2007

Vista is taking body blows

Posted by Marc Orchant @ 7:59 am

Categories: Microsoft, Productivity, Software, Uncategorized, Vista, Windows

Tags: Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista, Marc Orchant

I’ve been on a bit of a blog and RSS hiatus the past couple of days and have been working my way through tales of destruction and distress (the 365 outage, not Lindsay Lohan’s latest episode), news, and views. In my reading, there’s a recurring theme that beats louder all the time. People are just not loving Vista.

James Fallows, one of my all-time favorite columnists, just wrote that he’s going back to XP. Valleywag, (almost) always amusing, albeit at the expense of accuracy from time to time, reports that the official release of SP1 for Vista appears to be slated for a 2009 release. And David Berlind really nails it in his discussion about the way the world is changing around Microsoft when he writes:

Today, I’m a user of both Windows XP and Windows Vista and while I remain convinced that Vista is a better OS than XP, my usage of XP serves as a constant reminder that when it comes to getting my work done, I’m not getting it done any faster or better in Vista. In fact, because of the way several things have been moved around in Vista, and because of the way Internet Explorer 7, in an effort to protect us from ourselves, locks up the Web in a chastity belt, I often find myself being slowed down by Vista. It may only be a matter of time before I get used to it (and figure out how to reconfigure IE7 with the necessary wiggle room). But the bottom line is that (a) I’m definitely not more productive and (b) if I finally get to a point where I am more productive, it won’t be by much.

Nothing I’ve read (or written) sums it all up quite as well as this paragraph. I like Vista for a lot of reasons. The visual appearance is great. The new bells and whistles (the sidebar and gadgets, integration of RSS, and built-in productivity apps like Calendar and Contacts for example) are very nice although such things have been available long before Vista on both XP, some via third parties, and on the Mac and Linux. But when it comes to actually getting things done, Vista feels like it’s getting in my way far more often than XP or the Mac OS (both of which I continue to use daily).

Having left the world of full-time gainful employment for the juggling career that is independent writing and consulting, productivity is my paramount concern. I have too many projects running concurrently to put up with an OS that creates stumbling points or friction in my work. And based on my soon-to-be-patented curses-per-hour algorithm, Vista is anything but friction-free. I recently wrote about my frustrations with something as simple as using removable USB memory stick. Given that I do a fair amount of gadget and software testing, I can say with some authority that installing device drivers and applications is not easier or faster in Vista. and even basic things like hibernating, starting up, and shutting down feel like they take a lot longer than in XP.

The luster of shiny new-ness wears off quickly these days and I’m on the fence with Vista. While I’ll keep it on the Lenovo X61 Tablet PC for sure (the new Tablet bits in Vista are that good), I’m less certain about some of my other Windows-powered devices. I’m about ready, time permitting, to repartition the hard drive on the Asus R2H UMPC to set up a dual boot with XP because Vista is just so broken on that device in ways both large (overall performance) and small (too many modal dialogs that are too big for the native screen resolution).

I don’t think Microsoft can afford the pace they’re setting. Vista SP1 needs to be officially released sooner than 18 months from now. And Windows 7? I’m not even going to think about that for a while.

Marc Orchant has been building, testing, and sometimes breaking hardware and software for 25 years. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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re: The real problem is...  joe6pack_z | 07/25/07
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IE7 Is wonderful  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
IE7 is not as wonderful as you think it is  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
I do use Firefox as well.  BroGnorik | 07/27/07
Simply untrue and misleading. Not trying to "beat" you down...  xuniL_z | 07/28/07
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re FF 3.0 beta  strangefruit | 08/20/07
You just made his point  Old Timer 8080 | 07/26/07
and yes it causes some pains...  theo_durcan | 07/25/07
Sorry but it's not that simple  morchant | 07/26/07
The "Speed" factor is very deceptive" (i'm trying this again)  xuniL_z | 07/28/07
Computer Hell  brian ansorge | 07/31/07
Deep breath, now Exhale...  PghNative | 07/26/07
THIS WORKS PERFECT!!!  DoctorWhooo@... | 11/20/07
CORRECTED DOWNLOAD PAGE  DoctorWhooo@... | 11/20/07
This MS user facing reality: Vista sucks.  ejhonda | 07/25/07
Your post speaks volumes...  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/07
Rights management  RichardRoe | 07/26/07
3 real choices it sounds like...  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/07
Bleeding all the way to the bank  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/25/07
They don't pay MS  John Zern | 07/25/07
I gotta say No Axe you really post well at times  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
Don't forget to add the whole MS-OOXML debacle to the list  zaine_ridling | 07/26/07
NOPE, There is a 4th Choice, x64 Vista  xuniL_z | 07/28/07
Life is full of mysteries  craiglarry | 07/29/07
Save your breath  xuniL_z | 07/29/07
Vista hardware support issues  agramont@... | 07/25/07
Check out 64 Studio...  cheesyone | 07/26/07
Deja-Vu...  hjagla | 07/25/07
re: "...what changed these peoples mind."  johnay | 07/25/07
Not true, MS didn't drop 2K untill 2005  rbj1_z | 07/25/07
XP worked  voska | 07/25/07
They'll get used to it.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/25/07
You crack me up YBK!  morchant | 07/25/07
"XP... now you can't be without it"  jacarter3 | 07/25/07
Linux, can't do without it.  xuniL_z | 07/28/07
"Sure there is a new learning curve" but why bother and who cares?  jacarter3 | 07/30/07
SP1  cheesyone | 07/26/07
Deja-Not the same people  Ole Man | 07/26/07
When Windows 7 arrives...  Anton Philidor | 07/25/07
"When Windows 7 arrives" no one will care. [nt]  jacarter3 | 07/25/07
I'm stunned anyone would think the way you do  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
Careful no one pinches you  Ole Man | 07/26/07
You have a point.  minori_aoi | 07/27/07
I disagree...  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
How ARE things in Stepford, dear?  dave.leigh@... | 07/25/07
I don't why don't YOU tell us  fr0thy2. | 07/26/07
I know Mike Cox  jacarter3 | 07/25/07
Believe it or not  Michael L Hereid Sr | 07/26/07
Count me as one who does...  fr0thy2. | 07/26/07
Good for you but I seriously doubt your claim  jacarter3 | 07/26/07
I'm still "on the fence" with Vista  I am Gorby | 07/27/07
Now that was just retarded.  xuniL_z | 07/29/07
No, it's retarded to  jacarter3 | 07/30/07
WOW, you leave me speechless  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
I think %'s are against you, but the ME comment is scary  fr0thy2. | 07/26/07
WOW.  xuniL_z | 07/29/07
I agree good experience  fr0thy2. | 07/26/07
I agree.....A donkey interfaces with a cart  Ole Man | 07/26/07
I have to say, I've seen Ubuntu spelled different ways  mdsmedia | 07/27/07
Who did this to us?  terry flores | 07/25/07
When ;you are LESS productive...  BitTwiddler | 07/25/07
Pure BS  ShadeTree | 07/25/07
Try looking at this...  zkiwi | 07/25/07
Shadetree called it right  rbj1_z | 07/25/07
In regards to your statement and zkiwi  xuniL_z | 07/28/07
Here is a HDWE compatablilty list.  cheesyone | 07/26/07
The home networking is a real step backwards  zmud | 07/25/07
Yeap!  Been_Done_Before | 08/01/07
there is a simple explanation  Linux Geek | 07/25/07
Not true  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
you should make donations to your preffered Linux distro  Linux Geek | 07/25/07
You mean Open Source Communism doesn't work???  blackRiver | 07/25/07
OpenSource is not  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/07
OSS works great  Linux Geek | 07/25/07
LOL  John Zern | 07/25/07
Well if open source is Communism, then  MisterMiester | 07/25/07
If Microsoft = Fascism  Uber Dweeb | 07/25/07
You can....  minori_aoi | 07/27/07
Mussolini...  bpolhemus@... | 07/25/07
Revisionist of history ...  MisterMiester | 07/26/07
Sounds like...  cheesyone | 07/26/07
Talk about bass-ackward!  Ole Man | 07/26/07
Works better than proprietary Totalitarianism  Ole Man | 07/26/07
How much?  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
"I did not pay for, and the only one I can stand"  Ole Man | 07/26/07
I was paying to get tech suuport  BroGnorik | 07/27/07
First, your math is way out  mdsmedia | 07/27/07
Nope  BroGnorik | 07/27/07
Some apps out of reach ...  MisterMiester | 07/25/07
Great list of links - can I post it?  morchant | 07/25/07
Sure you can post it ...  MisterMiester | 07/25/07
Another great link is  johnf76@... | 07/25/07
Now this is the type of information I have been looking for.  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
don't forget the donation  Linux Geek | 07/26/07
Oh No  John Zern | 07/25/07
One little tip  Ole Man | 07/26/07
Codeweaver ? Crossover ? Wine ?  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
Still....  minori_aoi | 07/27/07
because Photoshop is WRITTEN for WINDOWS  mdsmedia | 07/27/07
Back to your hole  Linux User 147560 | 07/25/07
Okay, calling B.S.  bpolhemus@... | 07/25/07
You should look at  bruceslog | 07/26/07
Market share?  cheesyone | 07/26/07
"abandon Vista for Linux"?  Ole Man | 07/26/07
I've made the switch and Vista is now my secondary system  zaine_ridling | 07/26/07
Hit song "LINUX NIRVANA"  LWEM | 08/01/07
MAA RECOMMENDS VISTA  theo_durcan | 07/25/07
Two suggestions  craighuggart@... | 07/25/07
Already doing both  morchant | 07/25/07
How do you "enjoy" an OS?  jacarter3 | 07/25/07
If you don't enjoy it use a different OS  morchant | 07/26/07
Who says I use this OS?  jacarter3 | 07/26/07
Point taken  morchant | 07/26/07
Very true  xuniL_z | 07/27/07
"i'm sure you'll resent me for posting something like that."  jacarter3 | 07/30/07
Admin  DaveLG526 | 07/26/07
Vista is designed  Ole Man | 07/26/07
Hate to say it, but...  dave.leigh@... | 07/25/07
Read it Again  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
Read what again?  dave.leigh@... | 07/25/07
You missed the point of the story.  BroGnorik | 07/26/07
My Gast has been Flabbered.  dave.leigh@... | 07/26/07
No wonder Europeans resent paying twice as much for Vista as US users  whisperycat | 07/25/07
Talking trash  rbj1_z | 07/25/07
Trash talking  whisperycat | 07/26/07
European costs are much higher than Canada  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
In the end...  bpolhemus@... | 07/25/07
Well...  zkiwi | 07/25/07
Well there's always the Mac and other alternatives  jacarter3 | 07/25/07
I have to Agree  jpr75_z | 07/25/07
That is funny.  BroGnorik | 07/25/07
This poll support Orchant's experience on Vista  zaine_ridling | 07/26/07
Vista to Linux....  JT82 | 07/26/07
Neverwinternights  BroGnorik | 07/26/07
RE: Neverwinternights  JT82 | 07/26/07
you too happy  bruceslog | 07/26/07
I'm a Vista fan  Jim Johnson | 07/26/07
Plug and Play doesn't, whiskey tango foxtrot?  Michael Of Atlanta | 07/26/07
Vista is pure crap! Back to XP NOW!  dusty_reed@... | 07/26/07
Buying pirated software is not the solution  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
Back to XP we went  dvashgadol | 07/26/07
And M$ already started killing XP... bad move!...  Atasas | 07/26/07
Re: M$  harrisharris | 07/26/07
Best reason to buy XP or Linux = Vista  drichards1953 | 07/26/07
Vista is an accident waiting to happen!  axel_rod@... | 07/26/07
Adding devices  jaredcameron@... | 07/26/07
Been fine for me.  daMan25 | 07/26/07
flawed assumptions  Linux Geek | 07/26/07
I gave up thinking about buying Vista  intrepi@... | 07/26/07
Well, it appears the verdict is in...  Old Timer 8080 | 07/26/07
Vista, why did I do it?  kevinison@... | 07/26/07
the funny thing is...  squall0806@... | 07/27/07
XP with Vista Look CystalXp.net BricoPacks  tigger71677@... | 07/27/07
Why do we need to "love" it?  Narg | 07/29/07
You may be right  morchant | 07/30/07
Sorry - meant "use" not "sue"!  morchant | 07/30/07
Everything is in your package  BroGnorik | 07/30/07
Are any DIYers using Vista?  trapman | 07/31/07
Are any DIYers using Vista?  trapman | 07/31/07
More Businesses Nix Vista Migration Plans  Chad_z | 07/31/07
I happen to love Vista  Leria | 08/01/07
and The Games Go On  caeciszek | 08/07/07
Vista - get ready for anxiety!  SecurityExpert | 11/22/07
RE: Vista is taking body blows  jjjjofus | 06/17/08

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