Begs the question
Real World | 09/14/05
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Strategy
quietLee | 09/14/05
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Not really XML
Roger Ramjet | 09/14/05
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I'll like to see that Patent Application
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
  
You really think so?
figgle | 09/14/05
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Not quite
rapson | 09/14/05
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Message has been deleted.
Wagadonga | 09/14/05
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DELIBERATELY OBTUSE
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
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Nope
quietLee | 09/14/05
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Not sure I see the link
voska | 09/14/05
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Sorry
quietLee | 09/14/05
|
 
Fresh straw for the pile?
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
  
Please re-read George's very Original Post
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
   
George's original post was wrong too
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
    
Please re-read his post again
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
     
I don't see how Massachusetts
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
     
those users you speak of..
Monkey_MCSE | 09/14/05
|
  
Keep your bad straw, I like mine better
quietLee | 09/14/05
|
   
costing more?
nachokb | 09/15/05
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performance and bloat are always serious issues
balsover | 09/14/05
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Waste of time
uno@... | 09/14/05
|
  
market share dictates format relevance
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
some things
nachokb | 09/15/05
|
    
So someone is going to come steal my copy of Office?
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
     
perhaps
nachokb | 09/15/05
|

Is data portability really the issue
steven.stewart@... | 09/14/05
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from a business pov, of course
nachokb | 09/15/05
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I'll second Rob Crocker's post
whisperycat | 09/14/05
|

Sigh
quietLee | 09/14/05
|

Why does he have to upgrade ?
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
 
I'll upgrade to vista maybe 5 years from now.
Protector | 09/14/05
|
 
Excellent Point JJ
itanalyst | 09/14/05
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Heaven forbid someone criticizes Open Office
John Zern | 09/14/05
|

Vista will be faster
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Somehow I doubt that
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
  
You're wrong
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Question for you George..
Monkey_MCSE | 09/14/05
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errr, hit submit before typing the stats of the PC
Monkey_MCSE | 09/14/05
|
    
I'm not embellishing the numbers here
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
i am going to call BS...
Monkey_MCSE | 09/15/05
|
     
You're not tuning it right then
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
     
That is believable George
osreinstall | 09/15/05
|
     
It is the same
osreinstall | 09/15/05
|
     
Dead mappings are freaking horrible
george_ou | 09/15/05
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I'm call BS
voska | 09/14/05
|

Actually...no.
lawryll@... | 09/14/05
|

Maybe I'll second the BS call
jacarter3 | 09/14/05
|
 
What Hardware are you guys running to be so slow ?
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
  
mjb pegged it...
jacarter3 | 09/14/05
|
   
Dude, blame your admin
Real World | 09/14/05
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Depends on your configuration
Real World | 09/14/05
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My windows load times
CobraA1 | 09/14/05
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Comparison...
lawryll@... | 09/14/05
|
  
probably the POST
CobraA1 | 09/14/05
|

Try MSCONFIG
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Not according to MS
voska | 09/14/05
|
  
You don't know what you're talking about
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
No chance you have
Real World | 09/14/05
|
    
No
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
Joined to a domain
Real World | 09/14/05
|
     
This is home computer so non-domain
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
I think it is much more configuration-specific
Real World | 09/14/05
|
   
I question their use of Pentium
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
    
Pentium 233 MMX did exist
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
I still wouldn't want to run XP on it
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
     
I agree...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
Which windows 2000 are you talking about?
jesusbits2@... | 09/17/05
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Windows on 64 megs of ram
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
64 MB is not the point
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Windows, Office Bloat
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
   
No, they're bloated. You're just arguing the wrong point.
olePigeon | 09/15/05
|
    
This is absolute nonsense!
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
   
BS - Your 'results' are DIRECTLY CAUSED by 64MB.
Rick S._z | 09/17/05
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Run the tests you're self then and show me how to do it "right"
george_ou | 09/17/05
|

64Bit 3500 over here
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|

64 megs is the listed requirement
balsover | 09/14/05
|
 
Nope, all inclusive
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

What Piece of Crap Are You Using?
charlesgoff | 09/15/05
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Sorry Voska, George is right.
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|
A couple of things
Roger Ramjet | 09/14/05
|

Where are the leaks?
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Up for a year...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
Don't have any .net apps
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Nothing to worry about then...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
 
He was stating that 'Office' had the leaks
balsover | 09/14/05
|
  
In defence to George
ju1ce | 09/14/05
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up for a year? ouch!!
jesusbits2@... | 09/14/05
|
  
Not that it's recommended, but they didn't patch
george_ou | 09/14/05
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on the subject of bloat
CobraA1 | 09/14/05
|

bloat?
dpcguy | 09/14/05
|

Ummm
Yensi717 | 09/14/05
|
 
About Java
CobraA1 | 09/14/05
|

Java is not MS's fault
balsover | 09/14/05
|
One little quibble
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|

Huh? Um...no.
lawryll@... | 09/14/05
|
 
Well, you doubt my claims
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
  
Just go to CompUSA
lawryll@... | 09/14/05
|
   
Couple of points...
Linux Guy 1000 | 09/14/05
|
    
So you agree with me?
lawryll@... | 09/14/05
|
  
You probably have more running in the back ground than you think
balsover | 09/14/05
|
   
I'm pretty aware of what's on my system
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
  
Windows Firewall...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
   
WinXP SP2 FW is not junk
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
    
Windows XP SP2 Firewall...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
     
Just to mention...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
     
Wireless is my arena
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
So again...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
    
Re: WinXP SP2 FW is not junk
none none | 09/14/05
|
     
Then you don't know much
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

No, that's just you
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Just don't say it's Norton's...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
Norton is a major dog
balsover | 09/14/05
|
   
Newbs, and Stubborn Users...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
 
I understand that
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
  
Hilarious...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
Damn, it hurts buts it's true...
ARyKaXaN | 09/14/05
|

Well at least you're honest
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

Native...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
Here's An Interesting Question
itanalyst | 09/14/05
|

if all the features your need are in open office....
JoeMama_z | 09/14/05
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Amen!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|

Perhaps most users aren't as limited as you?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
 
Can You Ever Reply With An Intelligent Answer?
itanalyst | 09/14/05
|
  
Can you ever be honest in your statement/questions.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
  
Do your own leg work
balsover | 09/14/05
|
 
That's being a little obtuse
voska | 09/14/05
|
  
Not at all... Pay close attention now.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
 
Question..
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|

OO is free and runs on Windows
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
I do
voska | 09/14/05
|
 
Good question
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
  
Don't need to buy it at home if you have it at work
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
True
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
    
You mean StarOffie...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
     
Maybe
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
     
I have seen Star Office in stores.
balsover | 09/14/05
|
    
Now you know
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
Thanks
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
     
I don't think they can take it away
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

MS Word's indispensible feature
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|

OO in linux
mrhoyt4 | 09/16/05
|
COMPLETELY UNRELATED COMMENT GEORGE
Valis Keogh | 09/14/05
|
George, why are you ignoring saving in binary?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|

Not ignoring
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
On that I agree.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
  
Legitimate needs
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
   
That is not true FUDdy-duddy !
osreinstall | 09/15/05
|
  
But they're migrating
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Defaults can be changed back through system settings
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
    
Not a question, it's FUD
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
OOo1 vs. OOo2
Michael Kelly | 09/14/05
|
  
I'm going to add OO 2.0 Beta results
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

I'm gonna have to agree with this...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
Please check your assumptions
palmwarrior | 09/14/05
|

Actually, I should have used a bigger file
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

In my experience
rapson | 09/14/05
|
Interoperability shootout?
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|

What makes you think XLS will be obsolete in 10 years
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
What did you use 10 years ago?
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
  
Lotus and Access file formats
balsover | 09/14/05
|

Gere, seems it's been around a lot longer than 10 years.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
 
Office 2003?
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
  
I might
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
  
I have the Office 95 CD
balsover | 09/14/05
|
   
Office 4.3 Pro
Robert Crocker | 09/15/05
|
    
Then load an old copy of Office 95 if you need to
balsover | 09/15/05
|
  
Who cares, MS provides free converters.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
   
And if Microsoft no longer exists?
Patrick Jones | 09/14/05
|
    
Then someone else will license the file format
balsover | 09/15/05
|

My money is on MS for backward compatibility.
osreinstall | 09/15/05
|
Ok, you got me....
figgle | 09/14/05
|

Sorry for typo
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
Speed
georgep_z | 09/14/05
|

That's bull
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Also bull
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|
  
Linux gets hacked more
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
How DARE you speak the truth!!!
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
   
Are you talking about
Real World | 09/14/05
|
    
Live published exploits
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
George
Real World | 09/14/05
|
     
Worms are good for security
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
     
Mugging good for security?
Robert Crocker | 09/14/05
|
     
Good point Robert.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
     
Re: Worms are good for security
Real World | 09/15/05
|
     
Hello, that is an application not an OS!
crash89 | 09/15/05
|
    
Depends how you set it up.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
     
No
Real World | 09/14/05
|
    
According to George Ou's blog
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|
    
Exactly the point here...
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
     
?
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|
     
A joke right?
Richard Flude | 09/14/05
|
   
Pretty awful analysis George
Fred Fredrickson | 09/14/05
|
  
That depends on what is your view point
JJ_z | 09/14/05
|
   
Never did that...
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|
 
Can you cite examples?
crash89 | 09/15/05
|
 
What a world you live in!
georgep_z | 09/15/05
|
A minor remark
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|

No cache installed
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
MS Office will most deffinilty be faster...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
I didn't really test load times
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Load times...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
According to what I just read...
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|

Can the moderators please delete the parent post? (nt)
Anti_Zealot | 09/14/05
|
10 minute boot up time
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|

A 233 what?
balsover | 09/14/05
|
 
Learn your stuff before you ignoantly post
fireman949 | 09/30/05
|
Fabulous article
zzz1234567890 | 09/14/05
|

Great response...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
Native Code naturally runs faster
poocow666 | 09/14/05
|

Correct...
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|

Office is not preloaded
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
The objects are.. Ever heard of Windows API? (NT)
ju1ce | 09/14/05
|
  
Anything can use Windows API
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
  
Yes, in fact every Windows developer uses them.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|
   
Actually...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
    
.NET bloat
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|
     
Although I agree with your sentiment...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
  
Your point???
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|
   
Point is...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
    
Got it
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|

Makes the point that cross-platform is LCD
Mark Miller | 09/14/05
|
 
I think MS Office runs faster under Linux
george_ou | 09/14/05
|

Oh, that spanking has got to hurt.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|

wrong
cmoya | 09/15/05
|
 
Java is dog slow, but it wasn't used in this test
george_ou | 09/17/05
|

Linux runs slower than Windows on equal machines.
osreinstall | 09/16/05
|
Speed of Windows vs speed of Linux
NonZealot | 09/14/05
|

It's set up wrong
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
Are you for real?
B.O.F.H. | 09/14/05
|
  
No I'm not
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
no they don't
jesusbits2@... | 09/15/05
|
    
You, sir, are a depicable liar
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|
   
Linux (like other Unix like OS's) is multiuser/multitasking
B.O.F.H. | 09/15/05
|
XML Bloat monster
PoisonPill | 09/14/05
|

Compression time and parse time still kills
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
RE: xml
PoisonPill | 09/14/05
|
  
This is pretty much what I was asking for
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
ooffice is faster on linux
the_slash | 09/14/05
|

I never compared OO and MSO load times
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
RE:I never compared OO and MSO load times
sir_cheats_a_lot | 09/20/05
|
George is at it again
Richard Flude | 09/14/05
|

Don't start that again
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
I wouldn't dare;-)
Richard Flude | 09/14/05
|
  
You already have
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
   
Have I?
Richard Flude | 09/14/05
|
    
Yes, you're spinning this
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
     
Interesting
Richard Flude | 09/15/05
|
     
From a front-end user perspective...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|

COnversions...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
 
Never really noticed that
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|
  
Unless it's just me...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
George, haw DARE you present data that doesn't praise the glory of OO?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/14/05
|

The discussion on XML...
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|

Nice Troll
mobrien_12@... | 09/16/05
|
 
Are you kidding!
osreinstall | 09/17/05
|
$64,000 Question
ryxr30 | 09/14/05
|

Don't know why
george_ou | 09/14/05
|
 
FYI for you George
jcs26 | 09/16/05
|
  
Quickstart not loaded
george_ou | 09/16/05
|

Take your pick...
Anti_Zealot | 09/15/05
|
 
Or maybe...
JJ_z | 09/15/05
|
Opera vs IE
alokgovil | 09/14/05
|

I might have to look in to that
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
I hate to agree but...
Colonel_Panic | 09/14/05
|

You still "push" inferior products?
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
 
At this point...
ju1ce | 09/15/05
|
 
Most people
georgep_z | 09/15/05
|
  
Who is MS Office inferior to?
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
   
No reference to Office
georgep_z | 09/16/05
|
   
it has always been inferior
mnishiza | 03/08/06
|
 
Let's see George, if you built your own system...
Colonel_Panic | 09/15/05
|
  
You're exagerating the costs
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
   
Umm, George, we don't get sweet deals...
Colonel_Panic | 09/16/05
|
    
Canadians, lol
george_ou | 09/16/05
|
   
so
mnishiza | 03/08/06
|
 
don't mind paying?
sir_cheats_a_lot | 09/20/05
|

I can respect that...
JJ_z | 09/15/05
|
Simply a bad review
gametekus | 09/15/05
|

Open Office on Windows is not emulation
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
 
it's not faster
mnishiza | 03/08/06
|
You should be comparing it with OpenOffice.org 2
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|

Done
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
Sorry Voska, George is right.
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|
Fast Load times of Windows OS
oosai@... | 09/15/05
|

Not talking about application load time
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
Thanks George for misquoting me
George Jay | 09/15/05
|
Conclusion ?
Update victim | 09/15/05
|

Office is not usually bundled
george_ou | 09/15/05
|
 
Because MS-Office is a monopoly (NT)
George Jay | 09/15/05
|
  
It is?
rapson | 09/15/05
|
   
Microsoft was declared a monopoly
George Jay | 09/15/05
|
    
Sorry, but illogical
Mark Miller | 09/16/05
|
     
Sorry, but wrong
georgep_z | 09/16/05
|
   
MS Monopoly ruling
jg1013 | 09/17/05
|

Had this discussion before
Mark Miller | 09/16/05
|
Antivirus for Windows
Someguy2 | 09/15/05
|
Unable to open file presented?
SgtMuffles | 09/15/05
|

You can't open that file from Open Office
george_ou | 09/15/05
|

I posted the SXC
george_ou | 09/16/05
|
 
Strange, it auto-renames .sxc to .zip
george_ou | 09/16/05
|
  
Not at all strange
osreinstall | 09/16/05
|
OO-Calc is Slower (Now) - But Gnumeric Faster
trainmaster | 09/16/05
|

Commercial Prods Include "TextMaker"
trainmaster | 09/16/05
|

XML?
mobrien_12@... | 09/16/05
|

But Gnumeric is not compatible with Excel...
ssxm | 01/14/07
|
Do you spend all your time LOADING files?
Tsu Dho Nimh | 09/17/05
|

Do you spend all your time making excuses?
george_ou | 09/17/05
|
What's irrevelent is this debate
IQ9 | 09/17/05
|
Why this isn't very relevant
Interfecus | 09/17/05
|

A lot of people would have to be shot then
george_ou | 09/17/05
|
 
George was so childish!
bigbadguy | 09/18/05
|
  
The bigger they are the harder they whine.
osreinstall | 09/18/05
|
 
A matter of values
Interfecus | 09/19/05
|
You need to compare Office and OOo on Linux
mintSlice | 09/18/05
|

To win users other platforms are irrelevant...
ssxm | 01/14/07
|
Slight problem: OO 2 isn't out yet ..
cheros | 09/20/05
|

OOo Beta2 was by request
george_ou | 10/05/05
|
Don't kid yourselves.......
julee.denton@... | 09/29/05
|
Can longer load-save times be a better thing?
Mitch 74 | 10/05/05
|

MS Office is very stable; you don't know what you're talking about
george_ou | 10/05/05
|
ridiculous comparison
mnishiza | 03/08/06
|