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October 5th, 2005

If Sun won't use web-based Office, who will?

Posted by George Ou @ 11:15 am

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In this story about the Sun-Google deal, Jonathan Schwartz (COO of Sun Microsystems) was asked about web-based Office applications and he replied:  "Is AJAX or a browser an appropriate vehicle for heavyweight office productivity software?  Absolutely not".  If that isn’t a compelling indictment against the webification of Office applications, I don’t know what is.  I guess this shouldn’t really be a surprising response given Sun’s experience with StarPortal a few years ago which was an utter failure.

In my previous blog where I challenged any proponent of the client-less web-based Office application to drink their own Kool-Aid and stop using their traditional desktop applications, I got some responses from people that liked the idea of web-based Office but not a single one of them actually accepted my challenge.  The only decent implementation of a clientless Office application with a rich user interface I’ve ever seen is Microsoft Office delivered via Citrix or Terminal Services but even that was never too popular.

Short of using Citrix, the only thing that would come close to delivering a decent client-less experience is Macromedia flash but coding such a beast is quite a challenge and it’s much easier to implement something using screen push technology like Citrix.  The problem with the Citrix or Terminal server client is that it still requires a dumb terminal with high-end graphics from companies like Wyse that typically costs more than most home PCs.  Flash also requires a computer that can process the flash and you could have just as easily installed a real Office suite if you simply add a $50 hard drive in the computer.  Given these market realities, this is why the first Network Computer never really took off in the first place out side of Sun’s campus.  Nobody wants a glorified dumb terminal that costs more than many full blown PCs.

What seems to be happening with the Sun-Google alliance is that they will both put some work in to developing OpenOffice.org which is a traditional desktop client.  Given Schwartz’s lack of confidence on web-based Office applications, there is absolutely nothing that would indicate some kind of online Google-Office in the foreseeable future.  A Sun-Google branded OpenOffice.org might have a chance at getting some traction against Microsoft Office, but that’s a far cry from all the hype of the clientless Office and the death of the PC.

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Panic  Harry Bardal | 10/05/05
Have considered Application Streaming?  venkats2000 | 10/05/05
Have you considered offline usage?  george_ou | 10/05/05
And there will always be those like you  IT_User | 10/05/05
Most people want choice  george_ou | 10/05/05
Most people don't care about your choice  IT_User | 10/05/05
Again, put your money where your mouth is  george_ou | 10/05/05
Whoa! Whoa! Hold your horses there.  Cayble | 10/09/05
The world is thick! The world is thick!  Len Rooney | 10/05/05
What does Sun's Schwartz say about this?  george_ou | 10/05/05
AJAX is the horizon  Len Rooney | 10/05/05
Again, why Web Apps?  george_ou | 10/05/05
Exactly.  Cayble | 10/09/05
You asked for it...  Mark Miller | 10/05/05
A better thin client alternative  eheller | 10/05/05
A better SSLVPN is one that doesn't use a browser  george_ou | 10/05/05
Re: A better SSLVPN is one that doesn't use a browser  eheller | 10/05/05
Nope, no IPSEC client needed  george_ou | 10/05/05
How is that "better?"  IT_User | 10/05/05
The world doesn't revolve around the browser  george_ou | 10/05/05
You're personalizing it  IT_User | 10/05/05
You're missing my point  george_ou | 10/05/05
Anybody would use one, even you...  Michael Kelly | 10/05/05
That's my point  george_ou | 10/05/05
Even if it magically ran as well, I still value my independence  george_ou | 10/05/05
"independence", funny  Richard Flude | 10/05/05
I'll say the same thing to you, why web apps?  george_ou | 10/05/05
You're asking why the enterprise drive?  IT_User | 10/05/05
Web applications have their pain too  george_ou | 10/05/05
Been there  IT_User | 10/05/05
Wow.  Cayble | 10/09/05
Okay  IT Scion | 10/10/05
You value independence  IT_User | 10/05/05
Fat clients are not so fat and they can be free  george_ou | 10/05/05
Java applet?  IT_User | 10/05/05
Try this  george_ou | 10/05/05
I think you meant "Java application"  Mark Miller | 10/05/05
Where's the support for open office?  Anton Philidor | 10/05/05
Missing the point, AGAIN  Robert Crocker | 10/06/05
No, I'm not the one predicting the demise of the PC  george_ou | 10/06/05
Writing unclearly?  Robert Crocker | 10/07/05
Strictly as an alternative  Cayble | 10/09/05
Leaping to Coinclusions AGAIN!  Tsu Dho Nimh | 10/06/05
Desktop vs. Server Hosting  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/06/05
Nope, I support cheap $400 PCs for the office  george_ou | 10/06/05
Ouch!  balsover | 10/06/05
Schwartz is back tracking a little on this  george_ou | 10/06/05
Snore  broper | 10/10/05
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