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November 2nd, 2005

Hey Google, can you spare a few KLOCs for OO.o?

Posted by George Ou @ 1:44 am

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Earlier this week, Stephen Shankland reported that Google would hire a couple of programmers and donate a few KLOCs (Kilo Lines of Code) to OpenOffice.org.  Most of you who have been following my series on OpenOffice.org performance know that performance and bloat are my biggest gripes with OpenOffice.org so this is definitely welcome news.  Google, if you’re listening, put OpenOffice.org on a memory diet and fix the speed issues!

While my tests focused on Memory footprint and the extremely slow file load and creation times for Calc, reader Martin Dobsik, who uses an old computer, reports that OpenOffice.org was unusable for him and has a laundry list of complaints.  While it’s always tempting to just say "throw more hardware at it," faster hardware should never be justification for sloppy code because people buy new hardware to run their software faster, not so that they can run bloated software at the same speed.  Among Martin’s top complaints, Impress (PowerPoint alternative) was very slow when dealing with large numbers of equations, clip art, and images.  I tested this on my 3.4 GHz Pentium 4 and even then the Equation editor was very slow in rendering the equations so I can only imagine how bad this is on a slow machine.

One other reader mentioned that rendering charts with large amounts of data in Calc was painfully slow so I decided to try this for myself.  I generated 10,000 lines of data with two fields and plotted the results in Excel.  Trying to import this file or even something with only 2,000 lines of data along with a chart completely locked my fast computer up for long periods of time.  I checked to see if this was an import/export issue or if OpenOffice.org simply doesn’t handle charts well by saving the file to a native ODS OpenDoc format file and then reopened the ODS file.  Fortunately, this didn’t cause any problems and behaved normally so this was clearly a file import issue.  While this isn’t a problem when you’re strictly dealing with native ODS files, this could be a huge problem if you’re trying to import large Excel files with lots of charts.  Since Microsoft Excel is the de facto standard, having the ability to open up Excel XLS files without having your computer lock up would seem paramount to me.   If Google’s contribution can do anything to fix these problems, it would make OpenOffice.org a much more viable business class product.

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Memory footprint  ecbpro | 11/02/05
2.5 gb and 0.5gb???  scsi commando | 11/02/05
Something must be wrong here  ecbpro | 11/02/05
How did you measure these numbers?  michael_t | 11/03/05
I don't believe it.  scsi commando | 11/04/05
d'oh!!!  Valis Keogh | 11/02/05
Most likely these ar the Virtual Memory sizes that  michael_t | 11/03/05
George, you certainly use OpenOffice more than most  zdnet reader | 11/06/05
I thought you promised..  Patrick Jones | 11/02/05
I have...  John Le'Brecage | 11/02/05
Thanks for the info  Patrick Jones | 11/02/05
What I promised was...  george_ou | 11/02/05
I know..  Patrick Jones | 11/02/05
StarOffice handles memory much better  george_ou | 11/02/05
Goerge utilizes his replies...  zdnet reader | 11/03/05
What a jock!  psychoslave | 11/02/05
george didn't say that ms isn't guilty of this also  Valis Keogh | 11/02/05
Actually,  Patrick Jones | 11/02/05
Yeah...  ju1ce | 11/02/05
What a retard...  somedudehere | 11/02/05
I upgraded from 256M to 512M because it was sluggish  hipparchus2001 | 11/02/05
You must only use it for minesweeper!  whieber | 11/08/05
Google would be wise to put the resources where they  Richard Flude | 11/02/05
xml i/o times  hipparchus2001 | 11/02/05
Fresh Air  D. T. Schmitz | 11/02/05
What about my sample file?  george_ou | 11/02/05
So the only issue you could find was with load/create?  B.O.F.H. | 11/02/05
Read the blog  george_ou | 11/02/05
hardly anyone uses databases in ms access  hipparchus2001 | 11/02/05
You don't know what you're talking about  george_ou | 11/02/05
Although I'm semi with George...  ju1ce | 11/03/05
Access is great front-end  george_ou | 11/03/05
Access DB is far from a permanent solution...  ju1ce | 11/04/05
Access is a good permanent front-end  george_ou | 11/04/05
The more current we get....  ju1ce | 11/04/05
Problem with other front-ends  george_ou | 11/04/05
The problem....  ju1ce | 11/04/05
I never suggested using a centralized MDB file  george_ou | 11/04/05
By nature...  ju1ce | 11/04/05
Problem with that is...  ju1ce | 11/04/05
C'mon George, haven't you ever dealt with enterprise grade software?  B.O.F.H. | 11/04/05
That's the first problem BOFH...  ju1ce | 11/04/05
Please stop here.... you are killing us (from laughter)  michael_t | 11/04/05
You keep going back to MDB files  george_ou | 11/04/05
I keep going back to MDB...  ju1ce | 11/04/05
Yes, you are missing a lot  george_ou | 11/04/05
no it isn't - try LAMP  hipparchus2001 | 11/05/05
and PHP has a great PDF making class  hipparchus2001 | 11/05/05
What a sense of humor.  JusPassinThrough | 11/06/05
What a sense of humor.  JusPassinThrough | 11/06/05
I agree with you about MS Access  B.O.F.H. | 11/03/05
Load Time  D. T. Schmitz | 11/02/05
My old Laptop here...  Kamikaze_Ohka | 11/02/05
So there are no problems?  george_ou | 11/02/05
That's not the point, George...  Kamikaze_Ohka | 11/02/05
That would be too hard....  ju1ce | 11/02/05
Sounds like denial to me  george_ou | 11/02/05
Sounds like an MS fanboy to me  Kamikaze_Ohka | 11/02/05
What does this have to do with the problems of OO.o?  george_ou | 11/02/05
Turning a blind eye to tests that make absolutely no sense...  ju1ce | 11/03/05
this only thing that you found was "slow" was load and save  hipparchus2001 | 11/05/05
Nice banner waving but  IT Scion | 11/03/05
Embrace the religion?  JusPassinThrough | 11/06/05
If you find proof, you might be able to get me fired  george_ou | 11/06/05
George Ou's lies about OO2 being slow again...  hipparchus2001 | 11/02/05
Importing yesterdays formats is always a problem  zdnet reader | 11/02/05
No need to wonder  george_ou | 11/02/05
It's obviously something you've never done...  ju1ce | 11/03/05
no office and XP on 300(MHz) for me George  zdnet reader | 11/03/05
I never recommended it  george_ou | 11/03/05
Your blog's are like Big Oil, Big Beef, Big Pharmacuetical, Big Tobacco.  zdnet reader | 11/03/05
OpenOffice - a real value and it's FREE - saves you $399 or more  zdnet reader | 11/04/05
Which XP runs fine on which 300 MHz PC?  palmwarrior | 11/05/05
Investing advice  zdnet reader | 11/02/05
Open Document Format  D. T. Schmitz | 11/03/05
Your 'reports' are a good flame bait but the only thing  michael_t | 11/03/05
Shock Jock  palmwarrior | 11/05/05
What's so shocking?  george_ou | 11/05/05
Sensationalism  D. T. Schmitz | 11/05/05
Either stop pretending to be a comparison lab or learn how to do it  palmwarrior | 11/06/05
More denial  george_ou | 11/06/05
'Facts' are subject to verification  palmwarrior | 11/07/05
More on sensationalism  palmwarrior | 11/06/05
From the silent majority.  dragon@... | 11/04/05
Thanks for speaking out  george_ou | 11/04/05
I am glad that you are interested inthe 'ugly' sides too.  michael_t | 11/04/05
Read This  D. T. Schmitz | 11/04/05
So George, petition OO2 to use CWXML over LIBXML2  hipparchus2001 | 11/05/05
libxml2  D. T. Schmitz | 11/05/05
Both wrong  george_ou | 11/06/05
Benchmark / Binary_XML  D. T. Schmitz | 11/06/05
It was presented earlier  george_ou | 11/06/05
Unzipping the file on my machine took windows THIRTY seconds. 1/3 load time  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Soooo  D. T. Schmitz | 11/07/05
maybe it doesn't validate against the DTD  hipparchus2001 | 11/06/05
Stop speculating  george_ou | 11/06/05
you didn't prove *ANYTHING* about memory footprint  hipparchus2001 | 11/07/05
Pft  InfoLands | 11/07/05
Test  David GroberZDNet Moderator | 03/29/07

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