I'll admit I only skimmed the article but is this a
Laff | 02/21/06
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The article says go here for demo
wolf_z | 02/21/06
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Technically yes you ae correct but it is in and of itself
Laff | 02/21/06
|
  
Do you know what a shell script can do?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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30 seconds? Man are you a slow typist.....:)
Laff | 02/21/06
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My Goodness! I can hardly beleive it!!!
Cayble | 02/21/06
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Same as windows
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
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windows dosn't use DOS
IceTheNet@... | 02/23/06
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No effect here
Rick_K | 02/21/06
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proportion
glocks out | 02/21/06
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but how many people have that
IceTheNet@... | 02/23/06
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Who cares?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Malware creators everywhere care.
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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Well I for one ain't rich.....:)
Laff | 02/21/06
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Buying Macs will do that to you.
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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well.. its true that...
doh123 | 02/21/06
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Plus
tic swayback | 02/21/06
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RE: well.. its true that...
richdave | 02/23/06
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Another outlier
Real World | 02/21/06
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That's why I said median income...
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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rich targets...
doh123 | 02/21/06
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They only get paid when they keep it a secret
george_ou | 02/21/06
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Then they'd have to locate...
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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Actually there is.
nucrash | 02/21/06
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Thieves use malware...
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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Thieves?
nucrash | 02/22/06
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You prefer...
Anton Philidor | 02/22/06
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?????????
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
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Only time will tell if it is truly marketshare
I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 02/21/06
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The main reason Mac is subject to fewer attacks
georgep_z | 02/21/06
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Good one
toadlife | 02/21/06
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Yes there is
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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Again - there is nothing special about UNIX
toadlife | 02/21/06
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well.....
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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hipparchus2001
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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RE: Again - there is nothing special about UNIX
richdave | 02/23/06
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Mac is subject to fewer attacks
needtogetanapple | 02/22/06
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Maybe, But
dreis@... | 02/23/06
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Schadenfreude
baggins_z | 02/21/06
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Where do you see joy in my response?
george_ou | 02/21/06
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How soon they forget....
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Here's the link
george_ou | 02/21/06
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Easy
baggins_z | 02/21/06
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Gee. Don't show your bias now.
toadlife | 02/21/06
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More to it
baggins_z | 02/21/06
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Wrong
ianbetteridge | 02/22/06
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Correction
baggins_z | 02/22/06
|
  
No need to, Mac OS X exploits are plenty
george_ou | 02/21/06
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Thanks
baggins_z | 02/21/06
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well now...
mboo | 02/22/06
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As opposed to MS who never fixes anything
bpick_z | 02/21/06
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Patches every month
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
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Nope, here's proof
george_ou | 02/23/06
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George is the right person to report this
Chad_z | 02/21/06
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Thank you, what a well thought out and articulated post.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/21/06
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Wonder what was so offensive...
jasonp@... | 02/21/06
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Didn't say it was offensive. I patted him on the back.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/21/06
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Yes this is a bad flaw
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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Also, ZDNET wants to make SURE there is a MS bias in every story
bpick_z | 02/21/06
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Not exactly new
j.m.galvin | 02/21/06
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Disabled by default; does require user action
Doug K | 02/21/06
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No
ianbetteridge | 02/22/06
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This is impossible
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Some of us said that, yes.
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
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Won't suffer greatly?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Vista doesn't have this problem with user file access
george_ou | 02/21/06
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Vista does not exist
georgep_z | 02/21/06
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Vista Does exist
John Zern | 02/21/06
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Vista is VAPORWARE, George, but I see your point...
bpick_z | 02/21/06
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So you're saying that isn't a better permissions model?
george_ou | 02/21/06
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No, MS just hasn't pulled that feature yet...
bpick_z | 02/21/06
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This is easy to do in *ANY* unix security model system
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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?????????
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
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George meet ActiveX, ActiveX meet George...
ju1ce | 02/22/06
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wow... where have you been?
unoriginal_sin | 02/23/06
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Correct scheme, flawed implementation
tic swayback | 02/21/06
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Wrong
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
  
Once again.....so?
Laff | 02/21/06
|
   
So?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
    
Levels of damage
tic swayback | 02/21/06
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You continue to minimalize the loss of user files
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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He/she should know the pain of loosing files being a Windows user!
Laff | 02/21/06
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Please use your own logic
tic swayback | 02/21/06
|
     
My logic is fine
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Best tuneup that logic
tic swayback | 02/22/06
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Simple really....Because while OSX does have vulnerabilites
Laff | 02/21/06
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Grain of sand
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
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Overexageration
tic swayback | 02/21/06
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You still cling to this?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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What's to cling to?
tic swayback | 02/21/06
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Hehe, fair enough
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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More info available
tic swayback | 02/22/06
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This is no big deal
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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really?
doh123 | 02/21/06
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Isn't this a Safari exploit?
Robert Crocker | 02/21/06
|

Missing the point
baggins_z | 02/21/06
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Windows doesn't suck...
Mixotic | 02/21/06
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You downloaded and installed Safari manually?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
  
nope!
doh123 | 02/21/06
|
   
Um, that's not the point
wolf_z | 02/21/06
|
    
I just checked
j.m.galvin | 02/21/06
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the point is
doh123 | 02/21/06
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Still an OS problem not App
rreed567 | 02/22/06
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You aren't going to like this reply
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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A point you mentioned...
ju1ce | 02/21/06
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RE: You aren't going to like...
JakAttak | 02/21/06
|
     
Re re not going to like...
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
     
Ever tried to reinstall iexplore.exe?
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
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One difference is Apple never got caught lying in court about it.
bpick_z | 02/21/06
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that would be good if...
doh123 | 02/21/06
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Then explain this
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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For a NonZealot you're reading pretty high on on the zealotry meter
Richard Flude | 02/21/06
|
     
Thanks for the correction
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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More specifically "Launch Services"
Richard Flude | 02/21/06
|
  
Right on, Right on, Right on.........
donjohn@... | 02/22/06
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Follow the links, it is an OSX vulnerability
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Well said
nECrO_z | 02/21/06
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Good analysis ... but ...
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
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Okay, if it makes you feel better
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
  
Deleting ALL your files requires no social engineering
george_ou | 02/21/06
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Clarification
nECrO_z | 02/21/06
|
  
Read the post
nECrO_z | 02/21/06
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show how its done
doh123 | 02/21/06
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If this is an OS X vulnerability,
georgep_z | 02/21/06
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You answer your own question
rreed567 | 02/22/06
|

Yes, it's a Safari exploit - so?
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
|
 
Ratiocinated bifurcations engender nugatory animadversions.
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
|
  
Nitpicking aside ...
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
|
Did anyone proof-read this article?
BitTwiddler | 02/21/06
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Workaround.. to use Firefox perhaps?
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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I tried this on XP - seems safe (nt)
Qbt | 02/21/06
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Message has been deleted.
b.d.hi | 02/21/06
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Message has been deleted.
KTLA | 02/21/06
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Message has been deleted.
NonZealot | 02/21/06
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Most mac users that I know
zmud | 02/21/06
|

this isn't malware
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
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It *IS* malware
KTLA | 02/21/06
|
  
I think that he meant
j.m.galvin | 02/21/06
|
   
Yep, it isn't something like a buffer overrun
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|

And the collective IQ for PC users?
GoPower | 02/21/06
|
 
I agree with you
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
  
Don't know about you....
ju1ce | 02/21/06
|
   
I would have agreed 2 months ago
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
    
It's great that you do...
ju1ce | 02/21/06
|
     
I guess it's one of those...
ju1ce | 02/21/06
|
    
Be glad for auto updates...
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
|
  
PC users are on average more battle hardened
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
   
Agree 100% (nt)
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
   
Right...
ju1ce | 02/21/06
|
   
You want a Pat on the Back?
Harry Bardal | 02/21/06
|
    
HAH.
A_Pickle | 02/21/06
|
     
Market Share Rocks! Therefore I Am Sad.
Harry Bardal | 02/21/06
|
   
Not really
nucrash | 02/21/06
|
   
From my own experience, I would say this is true.
enduser_z | 02/21/06
|
    
Ridiculous Logic
Harry Bardal | 02/21/06
|
     
Hmm, care to reconsider?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
     
Accurately titled post.
enduser_z | 02/21/06
|
    
I have, get used to it
nucrash | 02/21/06
|
   
More that they are used to being victimized
bpick_z | 02/21/06
|
   
Not battle hardened. Rather they are war-weary. (NT)
Letophoro | 02/21/06
|
   
I think you'll find a lot of Mac users are also PC users
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
  
Clarification for those getting defensive...
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
   
Amen
nucrash | 02/21/06
|
   
I think..
Brich | 02/21/06
|

are you insulting me?
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
|

Rocket Scientist
SquishyParts | 02/21/06
|

and Windows users won't warn them.
kiddpeat | 02/22/06
|
Didn't do anything
b.d.hi | 02/21/06
|

Welcome to the wonderful world of George Ou
zkiwi | 02/21/06
|
Why aren't Mac users happy about this?
KTLA | 02/21/06
|

It shows their OS in a bad light
joethemacfan | 02/21/06
|
 
users ... not OS
dlmeyer@... | 02/21/06
|
  
Serious damage?
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
   
I would say that's worse
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
    
Back up
georgep_z | 02/21/06
|
     
They also have tools to undelete (NT)
ju1ce | 02/21/06
|
 
Come on, one vulnerability doesn't prove a rule
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
  
I thought there were NO vulnerabilities.
kiddpeat | 02/22/06
|

so...what you're saying....
Monkey_MCSE | 02/21/06
|
 
Brains
KTLA | 02/21/06
|
Zero Day?
TheTSArt | 02/21/06
|

thats George for ya
Monkey_MCSE | 02/21/06
|

In a sense it's true.
Anton Philidor | 02/21/06
|
 
Not By The Definition I'm Finding
TheTSArt | 02/21/06
|
  
Zero day
KTLA | 02/21/06
|
   
That is one stoopid definition
bpick_z | 02/21/06
|
   
Wrong
Fred Fredrickson | 02/22/06
|
    
'Zero day' yes....
s_gamgee | 02/22/06
|

maybe you should educate yourself better
zzz1234567890 | 02/21/06
|
Heise Security
Jkirk3279 | 02/21/06
|

It DOES work if you click a URL
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
 
What about the other claim?
Jkirk3279 | 02/21/06
|
  
It downloads and runs automatically
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
   
hmmmm
mboo | 02/21/06
|
    
You've got to be kidding...
FatherJ | 02/23/06
|
     
If True...
Jkirk3279 | 02/24/06
|

Of course they are sponsored by MS
bpick_z | 02/21/06
|
It's Time
ChasmoeBrown | 02/21/06
|
George, we can see you snickering
georgep_z | 02/21/06
|
Message has been deleted.
itanal | 02/21/06
|

lousy * fanboys
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|

You're an idiot...
~rpb~ | 02/22/06
|

Technically, he's right.
Joel R | 02/22/06
|
I Can't Get the Exploit to Run
friedcow | 02/21/06
|

No problem then, you have PLENTY of vul'ns AND exploits
bpick_z | 02/21/06
|
You can count on George
supoman | 02/21/06
|
Is option default or NOT?
bpick_z | 02/21/06
|
overrides sudo?
ktramd | 02/21/06
|

No, but it can steal or nuke your files
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
 
George, dodging questions much?
Monkey_MCSE | 02/21/06
|
  
Message has been deleted.
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
   
Message has been deleted.
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
    
Message has been deleted.
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
    
Message has been deleted.
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
  
I answered the question already
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
   
It's your article/blog
Monkey_MCSE | 02/21/06
|
    
Everyone is reporting the same thing
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
     
No I didn't make vulgar comments you didn't read the message
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
    
Also take it up with Mike
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
     
so when was Apple notified of the exploit?
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
    
I just got deleted for saying humans are animals
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
     
You got deleted for making vulgar comments about my daughter
george_ou | 02/21/06
|
     
Not true I've asked moderator to delete your messags claiming this
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
     
Suggestion
nizuse | 02/22/06
|
     
I don't call people that
george_ou | 02/22/06
|
     
keeo repeating the lie george
hipparchus2001 | 02/23/06
|
    
When you can't attack the message...
NonZealot | 02/21/06
|
    
Message has been deleted.
JetJaguar | 02/21/06
|
     
Message has been deleted.
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
    
Once again, get a clue.
FatherJ | 02/23/06
|
     
I should try that sometimes
george_ou | 02/23/06
|
  
Get a clue
FatherJ | 02/23/06
|
Reality is multivariate
the_doge | 02/21/06
|

Reality
TonyMcS | 02/22/06
|
 
rEALITY
gjsherr | 02/28/06
|
Out of interest, when was the fault reported to Apple so they could fix it
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
windows vulnerability
glocks out | 02/21/06
|

Ah...
Jkirk3279 | 02/24/06
|
Such product fanboy wars ere were seen (marklar)
hipparchus2001 | 02/21/06
|
Thanks for the heads up!!!
William Cote | 02/21/06
|
To Z_D
s_gamgee | 02/22/06
|
Sensationalism.
s_gamgee | 02/22/06
|
ProFab_z | 02/22/06
|

Let me see if I understand
NonZealot | 02/22/06
|
 
Say what?
ProFab_z | 02/22/06
|
  
Wow, long post to say nothing at all!!
NonZealot | 02/22/06
|
  
So you're saying you know more than SANS?
george_ou | 02/22/06
|
   
Dude I might not know more than them but I do know this!
Laff | 02/22/06
|
    
SANS and Secunia don't sell AV or FW
george_ou | 02/22/06
|
     
Not worth the argument
ianbetteridge | 02/23/06
|
   
That's exactly what I'm saying
ProFab_z | 02/22/06
|
    
This is new, serious and not a trojan, virus or other species
mdfischer | 02/23/06
|
INVINCIBLE!
Anon_ymous | 02/22/06
|

been there, done that.
shraven | 02/22/06
|
OS X "exploits" are all the rage
erichayes5@... | 02/22/06
|

Very entertaining article!
NonZealot | 02/22/06
|
Easy work around!
CKayote | 02/22/06
|
Serious problem, easy workaround, Peace
mdfischer | 02/22/06
|

I think it's about time to drop the ZDNet feeds
microwiz | 02/22/06
|
 
Applet Rating?
crescentdave | 02/28/06
|
Mac-fans showing their real colours....
Scrat | 02/23/06
|

Multiple camps showing their colors
woot! | 02/23/06
|

repeating lies
hipparchus2001 | 02/23/06
|

and the proof
hipparchus2001 | 02/23/06
|
 
Please do...
Linux User 147560 | 02/23/06
|
 
Secret Cause of Flame Wars
D. T. Schmitz | 02/23/06
|
  
Secret Cause of Flame Wars, Take 2
D. T. Schmitz | 02/23/06
|
   
I usually don't get too upset
george_ou | 02/23/06
|
   
Continued
george_ou | 02/23/06
|
   
I was replying to the "fornicates with animals post"
hipparchus2000 | 02/23/06
|
    
That is not how you said it
george_ou | 02/23/06
|
     
in that case I apologise again
hipparchus2001 | 02/23/06
|
     
Ok, let's forget it then
george_ou | 02/24/06
|
   
I have experienced this, too
JetJaguar | 02/24/06
|
    
Technology / Email
D. T. Schmitz | 02/24/06
|
   
Familiar
nizuse | 02/25/06
|
    
And there you have it!
D. T. Schmitz | 02/25/06
|
Authenticate Launches
Alex Santos | 02/23/06
|
The point I've been trying to make has been obscured by my own poor comms
hipparchus2001 | 02/24/06
|

Hang in there!
D. T. Schmitz | 02/24/06
|
"Vulnerabilities don't get any more serious than this"
mobrien_12@... | 02/24/06
|

Why would you spin like that?
george_ou | 02/24/06
|
 
No spin
mobrien_12@... | 02/25/06
|
  
broken talkback.
mobrien_12@... | 02/25/06
|
   
truncation
D. T. Schmitz | 02/25/06
|
    
Me too
george_ou | 02/25/06
|
     
Cut In
crescentdave | 02/28/06
|