Sigh
Robert Crocker | 02/28/06
|

Sigh
crampy20 | 02/28/06
|

You are being biased and your conclusion is wrong!
ShadeTree | 02/28/06
|
 
Robert trust me Shade knows WRONG!!!
Laff | 02/28/06
|
  
Good one, Laff.
Judas I. | 02/28/06
|
  
I have raed a lot of your opinions so ...
ShadeTree | 02/28/06
|
   
If raeding my comments makes you think you know
Laff | 02/28/06
|
    
You took the first shot and then come back ...
ShadeTree | 03/01/06
|
     
I like playing and you are a game too me....:)
Laff | 03/01/06
|
     
I think...
nomorems | 03/01/06
|
 
Really
Robert Crocker | 02/28/06
|
  
If you can't refute the data then refute the ....
ShadeTree | 02/28/06
|
   
more unpatched?....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
   
Shadetree, which OS has more unpatched...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
    
Who Cares, the point is made, like it or not.
Cayble | 02/28/06
|
    
You did read it wrong...
zaphod@... | 03/03/06
|

Your being more then just a little disingenuous.
ShadeTree | 02/28/06
|
 
This is Easy . . .
joeldm | 02/28/06
|
  
No, that's being simple...
ajole | 02/28/06
|
   
Yes, but...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
    
No, that isn't the argument either...
ajole | 02/28/06
|
   
You are the fanboi...
nomorems | 03/01/06
|
   
You are being simple as well...
zaphod@... | 03/03/06
|
    
Why just XP and not 9x/NT/2000?!
Bennopia | 03/03/06
|
  
Well, I have to admit......
Cayble | 02/28/06
|
   
Windows, Mac OS, Linux all easy to use
thunderdome1 | 03/01/06
|
    
linux is easier
Scott W | 03/01/06
|
   
HA!
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/01/06
|
    
Let's talk versatile ...
StupidScript | 03/01/06
|
  
there's a diference between infestations and vunerabilties
jumpa | 03/02/06
|
 
As are you
Fred Fredrickson | 03/02/06
|
  
I agree Fred
Bennopia | 03/03/06
|

PROOF: MAC USERS ARE GROUPIES
mashama@... | 03/01/06
|
 
If they're groupies we're ******!
Bennopia | 03/03/06
|

Sigh
nomorems | 03/01/06
|
Sigh aswell
tombalablomba | 02/28/06
|

Sigh a third time!
Mikael_z | 02/28/06
|
Oh my, this is just terrible
Letophoro | 02/28/06
|

I remember vaguely so please help me out here for as ec...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
 
But
Real World | 02/28/06
|
  
True
crampy20 | 02/28/06
|
  
BSD vs Mac OSX
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
   
Not at all
Real World | 02/28/06
|
    
And the point...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
    
Windows ME has nothing to do with NT
jacarter3 | 02/28/06
|
     
Right...
Real World | 02/28/06
|
     
RE:Windows ME has nothing to do with NT
Scrat | 03/01/06
|
     
Scrat: Re: Windows ME has nothing to do with NT
Wolfie2K3 | 03/01/06
|
   
Couldn't agree more...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

OS X dates back to 2000
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
so why not compare....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
 
OK George, here's a better reason for why your numbers are wildy off
Letophoro | 02/28/06
|
  
shhh! you'll spoil George's....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
  
RE: OK George, here's a better reason for why your numbers are wildy off
y-G | 03/01/06
|
 
NT/2000/XP dates back to 1995
Scott W | 03/01/06
|
  
NT was first released in 1993 (nt)
Fred Fredrickson | 03/02/06
|

There are lies, damn lies and statistics
MacGeek2121 | 02/28/06
|
 
moron
y-G | 03/01/06
|
  
Moron yourself.
timpin1@... | 03/02/06
|
Something funny I found on Secunia..
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|

George already said that...
ajole | 02/28/06
|
 
Fewer published exploits
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
  
haAHAHAHAHAHahahahah
An_Axe_to_Grind | 03/02/06
|
 
Not really
bladehawke | 02/28/06
|
CAN YOU EXPLAIN, GEORGE boy
theo_durcan | 02/28/06
|

Ignore this idiot Ou
j.m.galvin | 02/28/06
|
 
A rare post for you.
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
 
Don't ignore him George...
nomorems | 03/01/06
|
  
Thats OK Pal...I'll Handle it from here...
Cayble | 03/01/06
|

Give it time
doctormoriarty | 02/28/06
|
 
And, would you not expect...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
  
???..!????!! ...wut the....@*&%@$#??
Cayble | 03/01/06
|
   
E for effort
timpin1@... | 03/02/06
|
 
My recommendation
b.d.hi | 02/28/06
|
  
was under the impression that Mac OS X
Protagonistic | 03/01/06
|
 
re: Give it time
wearthefoxhat | 03/01/06
|

Post your email and IP
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
Sure...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
  
He using Windows.. It's unhackable! (NT)
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
   
Yes, I agree...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
  
I'm not trying to claim I can't be hacked without patching
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
George, George, George...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
    
Because he is saying he can't be hacked
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
MS thinks one of their vulnerabilities is a non-issue..
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
     
There is a huge difference between
Linux User 147560 | 02/28/06
|
   
ah, the "firewall" defense
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
    
You are right!
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
    
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Nice counter argument! Bravo!
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
 
Post your email and IP
Protagonistic | 03/01/06
|

Can you explain...
Justin James | 02/28/06
|
 
So true... (NT)
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
 
Phrasing.
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
  
RE: Phrasing
Protagonistic | 03/01/06
|
 
Lucky?
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
  
Okay, but first you must do this...
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
   
seems to me...
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
   
Are you comparing...
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
 
Well, Can you explain...
b.d.hi | 02/28/06
|
  
Not too hard to explain
Justin James | 02/28/06
|
   
Like the sticker says
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
   
Thank you...you just explained it...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
 
My experience too
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
  
I suppose next you'll tell us....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
   
I'll say that with confidence
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
  
You are the lucky one.
nomorems | 03/01/06
|

no
y-G | 03/01/06
|

No Antivirus?
Crafty Badger | 03/02/06
|
Explain
crampy20 | 02/28/06
|

Don't count advisories, count vulnerabilities
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
And an Honesty Test for You too . . .
joeldm | 02/28/06
|
Funny but over the past few years I remember glancing
Laff | 02/28/06
|

I hear a lot of talk
Flying Pig | 02/28/06
|
Keep kicking that hornets nest, George
ejhonda | 02/28/06
|

Well since the ahem (3) so called "attacks" have resulted
Laff | 02/28/06
|
 
As I said above, give it time
doctormoriarty | 02/28/06
|
  
But that is not the subject here...it "IS" which is more secure.
Laff | 02/28/06
|
  
Yes, give it time
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
   
Honest question...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
    
No
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Ahh
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
   
Not worried about number of exploits
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
   
give it time indeed.
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
    
Everyone knows what you say even if they won't admit it
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
    
Not being left alone
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Wow, George! Are you sure?
ajole | 02/28/06
|
    
Sigh, the marketshare argument again
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
DING DING DING!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Web servers are relevant here
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Right, but
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
     
I'll give you a chance to take your post back
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
The analogy addresses the logic of the argument
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Tic, not only that but as Letophoro points out...
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
     
Which version of Apache...
ye | 02/28/06
|
     
@ ye
thelemite | 03/01/06
|
    
yup, just like Apache 1.3.x vs IIs 4/5
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
     
Talk about groupthink!!!!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
     
If you want to be wrong, go ahead
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
I think I see your problem...
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
     
The question isn't whether it is an analogy...
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
It is an extremely appropriate analogy
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
For the 20th time
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
I think it is an applicable analogy...
brble | 02/28/06
|
     
Excellent post brble!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Excellent post brble! (bolding corrected)
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Barble, stop making sense!....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
     
NZ, are you seeing things?
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
No, are you?
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Okay NZ
brble | 02/28/06
|
     
The nature of analogies
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Okay brbl
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
NZ - Are Desktops and web servers share a commonality:
thelemite | 03/01/06
|
     
NZ - Desktops and web servers share a commonality:
thelemite | 03/01/06
|
 
I think many attitudes on both sides are flawed
brble | 02/28/06
|
 
Chocolate is better than Vanilla
corticus | 02/28/06
|
  
But this is exactly what some pc users are doing...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
George, it's no contest - MAC wins!
thelemite | 02/28/06
|

linis dont work
doh123 | 02/28/06
|
 
hmmm... works for me
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
  
i manually did it...
doh123 | 02/28/06
|
   
weird...
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
 
Linewrap issues
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
  
it must hate me...
doh123 | 02/28/06
|
  
that said..
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

try this link
thelemite | 02/28/06
|

MAC wins what?
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
 
yup, just like Apache marketshare eh?
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
  
uh no, but i agree there.
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
   
Don't personally know anyone on the Apache...
thelemite | 02/28/06
|
    
one hell of one product
proprietary | 02/28/06
|

Hmm yes.
friedcow | 03/02/06
|

Funny thing
timpin1@... | 03/02/06
|
Another meaningless comparison
Chad_z | 02/28/06
|

This is the point I keep making.. in many cases:
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
 
Good point
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
  
Well even that tic...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
   
I totally agree!
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
 
Actually
ITGuy04 | 02/28/06
|
  
Depends on where you look...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
   
Well Said
brble | 02/28/06
|
   
Well...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|

Another meaningless post
proprietary | 02/28/06
|

Another meaningless comparison
rscott22 | 02/28/06
|
 
Beach ball
timpin1@... | 03/02/06
|
 
Be careful about Dell
Bennopia | 03/03/06
|
Art of propaganda...
IAHawkeye | 02/28/06
|

Comparing his Zealotry to Windows and the Nazis...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|
 
Read...Context....Of...Message
IAHawkeye | 02/28/06
|
  
Moot point
proprietary | 02/28/06
|

Sorry, linuxnode.
toadlife | 02/28/06
|
 
The meaning of context.
IAHawkeye | 02/28/06
|
  
Did you read the content of the link?
brble | 02/28/06
|
   
Apparently I lose then.....
IAHawkeye | 02/28/06
|
  
what?
proprietary | 02/28/06
|
   
and the windows flaw isn't?
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
need proof
doh123 | 02/28/06
|
Sorry George
CobraA1 | 02/28/06
|

hey.. be careful...
doh123 | 02/28/06
|

Although I may agree with you in some form...
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|

Read more carefully before blasting someone
Justin James | 02/28/06
|
 
re: Read more carefully before blasting someone
CobraA1 | 02/28/06
|
I think the Red number is the most important
nucrash | 02/28/06
|

True but
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
But what about length of time spent fixing?
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
 
No "but" about it
bidemytime | 02/28/06
|
  
Errata
bidemytime | 02/28/06
|
  
OS X has the extemely critical unpatched vulnerability now
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
But it DOES require some user interaction.
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
    
Though I hate to defend George
nucrash | 03/01/06
|
    
It requires no user interaction
timpin1@... | 03/02/06
|
   
And how long has that Mac problem been public?
bidemytime | 03/03/06
|
 
their loss
CobraA1 | 02/28/06
|
 
True but
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
  
8 Days and counting
nucrash | 03/01/06
|
   
Stop the counter!
tic swayback | 03/01/06
|
    
8 Days, Could be better.
nucrash | 03/02/06
|
 
businesses and testing
Mr_Dave | 02/28/06
|
Vulnerabilities are easier to find with source code
LittleGuy | 02/28/06
|

You forgot to say...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
 
Yes, I was going to fix the Linux kernel...
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
  
*sigh*
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
   
Louche way to agree with me.
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
    
We don't agree
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|
George, here are the hard facts:
ITGuy04 | 02/28/06
|

LOL, learn to count actual vulnerabilities
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
So, you admit you're lying
ITGuy04 | 02/28/06
|
  
Very sad
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
Obvious question that must be asked
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
  
If I do that, I'll have to add stuff for Apple too
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
Isn't IE a part of Windows where Safari is well not?
Laff | 02/28/06
|
    
No Laff
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
    
People don't do that though
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Then you need to be accurate
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
So I should use IE on Mac?
nucrash | 03/01/06
|
   
Be fair
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|

why do I read this whole forum before I read this post?? NT
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

George and his fuzzy numbers again
supoman | 03/01/06
|
Proves what I've said about marketshare
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|

Could also be...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|

Marketshare means nothing
ITGuy04 | 02/28/06
|
 
You have the right to be...
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
  
erm.. sorry to prove you wrong but...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
  
You're wrong
ITGuy04 | 03/01/06
|

No, NZ, you say it because...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
here's a question for the Mac/*nix crowd
nECrO_z | 02/28/06
|

Again the questions is not "IF" there are vulnerabilities in any given OS
Laff | 02/28/06
|
 
I think a much more accurate test of this...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
  
excellent points all
nECrO_z | 02/28/06
|
 
That was my point
nECrO_z | 02/28/06
|
  
Ha!
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
  
Don't underestimate the patch process, it's very painful
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
  
I agree, but the article compares....
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

Awesome post! (NT)
ju1ce | 02/28/06
|

Funny you'd ask....
ProFab_z | 02/28/06
|
 
????
nECrO_z | 02/28/06
|

Thank you for some common sense
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
Erm, biased a bit?
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|

Please show me every message..
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

Here are some answers...
pete-f@... | 03/01/06
|

Because places that require high security...
The King's Servant | 03/02/06
|
 
No, but you need to get a clue
george_ou | 03/02/06
|

No OS is 100% safe, but
MacGeek2121 | 04/07/06
|

Security.
bixbyru@... | 05/04/07
|
innumeracy
dennispocket | 02/28/06
|
Doth Protest Too Much
Harry Bardal | 02/28/06
|

No, this is new
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
Respond to my Point
Harry Bardal | 02/28/06
|
  
It's simple
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
6 Years
Harry Bardal | 02/28/06
|
    
Oh snap!
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Um, I can!!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Me too
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Here's a Point
Harry Bardal | 02/28/06
|
     
Responses all around
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Even with all those things
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
     
In response to tic
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
I think that's Harry's point
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Tic: Harry's point
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
     
Great argument for buying a Mac
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
tic, I agree!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
   
Except that Security Through Obscurity isn't why Unix is secure
joeldm | 02/28/06
|

Paraphrasing your argument.
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
 
No Thanks
Harry Bardal | 02/28/06
|
  
But Harry!
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
   
tic
Anton Philidor | 02/28/06
|
Nonsense or what?
duksis | 02/28/06
|
George, could you please tell me why...
Benton Rich | 02/28/06
|

Because the last 2 years is relevant
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
I suppose...
Benton Rich | 02/28/06
|

Because the further back he goes the more the UGLY ms insecurity
michael_t | 02/28/06
|
 
So what's more important to you?
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
  
I base my descisions on past experience
kbeaumont | 02/28/06
|
   
It's disappointing, but your experience doesn't fit..
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
  
If that's your logic.....
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
   
The last 2 years is relevant
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
    
Here's a better idea
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
OS X still loses
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Better, but I'm still not convinced it's fair
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
Interesting, George....you claim...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
    
why, George? Do they support your arguments? NT
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
  
That's why you're hammering ONE vulnerability in OSX?
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
  
Only serious FOOLS refuse to look and learn
michael_t | 02/28/06
|
 
WINNER! WINNER! WE HAVE A WINNER!
thelemite | 03/01/06
|
  
Perhaps, or perhaps not
Benton Rich | 03/01/06
|
Looks simple enough to me, why all the whining?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/28/06
|

Name calling Bit?
Robert Crocker | 02/28/06
|
 
Name? No, more like a label.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/28/06
|

If it wasn't for the FUD they were spreading...
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
 
you know, for a "nonzealot" you sure are biased.
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
  
I thinks he's given up on the Non part....:)
Laff | 02/28/06
|
   
so it seems
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|
   
Hehe, not given up at all!!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
|
    
rotflmfao @ you
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
|

statistics schmatistics.....
thelemite | 02/28/06
|

are you upset No-Ax?? NT
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|

actually,
Robert Kohlenberger | 03/01/06
|
Useless discussion since XP is going away in
michael_t | 02/28/06
|

Is XP Going Away?
Kelmon | 03/02/06
|
George, please provide me a link
Monkey_MCSE | 02/28/06
|

I clearly stated this in blog
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
So Basically, what you're saying is...
Monkey_MCSE | 02/28/06
|
  
This is a joke right?
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
He asked where the numbers came from...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
|
    
Pathetic attempts
george_ou | 03/01/06
|
The problem with George's method
berck | 02/28/06
|

Well said, and thank you!
zkiwi | 02/28/06
|

Clearly not the only problem
Richard Flude | 02/28/06
|

Don't bundle security advisories then
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
 
Be fair
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
 
Wow
berck | 02/28/06
|
  
Same applies to both OSes
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
   
What?
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
    
The advisories are categorized by Secunia
george_ou | 02/28/06
|
     
Don't blame Secunia
tic swayback | 02/28/06
|
     
I am being fair
george_ou | 02/28/06
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But that's not fair!
tic swayback | 02/28/06
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You can't break it down like that
george_ou | 02/28/06
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That's going to take a lot more work on your part then
tic swayback | 02/28/06
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Multiple vuneralbilites per advisory
berck | 02/28/06
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I hate to split hairs but...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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The same thing applies to Windows
george_ou | 02/28/06
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Realization dawns?!?
Robert Crocker | 03/01/06
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There are lies, d@mn lies,
georgep_z | 02/28/06
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I don't really care WHAT the chart says
BitTwiddler | 02/28/06
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and if you had to guess...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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Really? Then you need to figure out what you're doing wrong
george_ou | 02/28/06
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you're assuming he's not a consultant right George?
Monkey_MCSE | 02/28/06
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No, I use to work in Enterprise too
george_ou | 02/28/06
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re-read what i said George...
Monkey_MCSE | 02/28/06
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George Ou is a Complete Wack Job!
joeldm | 02/28/06
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what about a genuinly secure OS
jtoppi | 02/28/06
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OK, now that we're done whining . . .
CobraA1 | 02/28/06
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Will pc & mac/*nix users ever
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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What George and Others Like Him Don't Get . . .
joeldm | 02/28/06
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LOL I love the analogy
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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Thanks! That's the issue: Vulnerability vs Infection!
joeldm | 03/01/06
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George Ou is ignorant to call this an "extreme" vulnerability
AWolfe_II_z | 02/28/06
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MAC vs WIN
TN-Limey | 02/28/06
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lol they would...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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There's the point
TN-Limey | 03/01/06
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Ou Has Learned He Can Get Lots of Hits If He Says Ignorant BS about the Mac
joeldm | 02/28/06
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so nothings perfect?
psimpsongore | 02/28/06
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So this isn't a valid study or topic?
george_ou | 02/28/06
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It is a fact if we use your numbers {NT}
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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These aren't 'my' numbers
george_ou | 02/28/06
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Well according to what I'm looking at...
Monkey_MCSE | 02/28/06
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Learn to count monkey
george_ou | 02/28/06
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Not implying that you made them up exactly...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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So we should just go by your "personal experience"?
george_ou | 02/28/06
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no, but
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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NO, George!!
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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that depends...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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Yes, but...
tangent001 | 02/28/06
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Want to bet?
Randy Smith | 03/01/06
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No George YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN!
joeldm | 03/01/06
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moral of the story
glocks out | 02/28/06
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new test
glocks out | 02/28/06
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I accept your test!!
NonZealot | 02/28/06
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And do these numbers come from...
zkiwi | 02/28/06
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Try...
Brich | 02/28/06
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Not Possible.
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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To all those that replied
NonZealot | 02/28/06
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funny thing..
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/01/06
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i guess so
glocks out | 03/01/06
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Opposing views not in reality
bobhog | 02/28/06
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Always interesting when you challenge conventional wisdom
george_ou | 02/28/06
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About time
bobhog | 02/28/06
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George, if you have no bias...
mdsmedia | 02/28/06
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and if you bothered to actually read any of it...
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 02/28/06
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"Data don't lie"
tic swayback | 02/28/06
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It's the user AND the OS that make a system secure or insecure!
ruprick_z | 02/28/06
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Pavlov's Dog
D. T. Schmitz | 02/28/06
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about statistics
CobraA1 | 02/28/06
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A Big Sigh
cuppachino | 02/28/06
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The real deception here
tangent001 | 02/28/06
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Don't get started with Firefox
george_ou | 02/28/06
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From Secunia:
tangent001 | 02/28/06
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I've already addressed that
george_ou | 03/01/06
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You were told wrong
george_ou | 03/01/06
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What was your advice then?
ruprick_z | 03/01/06
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You're right
slantyyz | 03/01/06
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a few things . . .
CobraA1 | 03/01/06
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George Ou should be banded from writing
Bob Trikakis | 03/01/06
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Method
D. T. Schmitz | 03/01/06
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If only
tic swayback | 03/01/06
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I agree
rudeshock_z | 03/01/06
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Keep writing George!
Smarty_Pantz | 03/02/06
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The biggest vulnerability
slantyyz | 03/01/06
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PROOF: MAC USERS ARE GROUPIES
mashama@... | 03/01/06
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A lot of the Vulnerablities on Mac OS X
blidd | 03/01/06
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Use what you want- but backup your data...
TracyF | 03/01/06
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics
Doug K | 03/01/06
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DOS
proprietary | 03/01/06
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Depends on what's being denied
Doug K | 03/01/06
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Hmmm, George Did you cash the check yet?
Randy Smith | 03/01/06
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You may have MCSE...
ianbetteridge | 03/01/06
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Ratio 150,000-3 = Stupid Nonsense
Sid_video | 03/01/06
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Required Reading
tic swayback | 03/01/06
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Sensationalism in news
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/01/06
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oh, and..
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/01/06
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Advisory count is very misleading
george_ou | 03/01/06
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So is your method
berck | 03/01/06
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It's a hell of a lot more accurate than counting advisories
george_ou | 03/01/06
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Maybe
berck | 03/01/06
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I'm saying it's not perfect, but the most accurate
george_ou | 03/01/06
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It's still flawed and arbitrary
tic swayback | 03/01/06
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Sorry
berck | 03/01/06
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I do believe that I said
thatxbxtchxnicoll | 03/01/06
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ALL of these stats are misleading - security depends on a LOT of factors
CobraA1 | 03/01/06
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The whole story
Unemployed IT Guy | 03/01/06
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MAC, WIN and LINUX
TN-Limey | 03/01/06
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Thanks George
msftshiller | 03/01/06
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another one dead on.
proprietary | 03/01/06
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Totally wrong
plokoonpma | 03/01/06
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Just one question.
MacGeek2121 | 03/01/06
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What a moron...
meseeu | 03/01/06
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Vulnerability statistics for Mac and Windows
Protagonistic | 03/01/06
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LAME
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/01/06
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Time to update that chart George
tic swayback | 03/01/06
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That is not a correction
george_ou | 03/01/06
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But now that the numbers have changed....
tic swayback | 03/02/06
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Figures don't lie but liars can figure...
Dr. Dubious | 03/01/06
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Look at Linux
richdave | 03/01/06
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misleading.
proprietary | 03/02/06
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Apple just pached only known vulnerability
mpredmond | 03/01/06
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Better?
dscherm | 03/01/06
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Patch as Patch Can
D. T. Schmitz | 03/01/06
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The use of vulnerability counts
mysidia | 03/01/06
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George Ou - Microsoft Information Minister!
fernando.cassia@... | 03/02/06
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Read this before you poll
george_ou | 03/02/06
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George Ou is an Intellectually Dishonest Coward
joeldm | 03/02/06
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I'm not sure...
tic swayback | 03/02/06
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I Think He Knows and Enjoys the Attention, Not the Logic!
joeldm | 03/02/06
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Useless?
VonKraut | 03/02/06
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The only problem...
sysedco | 03/13/06
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And then more problems...
Blade Blade | 03/14/06
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Hey what about Commodore 64 vulnerabilities??!
Brakiss | 03/02/06
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Children, children
energy83 | 03/02/06
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ZDnet refutes Ou's "REPORT"
An_Axe_to_Grind | 03/02/06
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WINDOW of vulnerability
Sxooter_z | 03/02/06
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One problem with the data...
Mercat | 03/03/06
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There's more than just Windows XP!
Bennopia | 03/03/06
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Only did XP Pro and Home for a reason...
Mercat | 03/03/06
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Not to mention...
Mercat | 03/03/06
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As far as I'm concerned...
ancient_user | 03/03/06
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Attack: Aim? X=XP on security.
Paul Arnett | 03/04/06
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misuse of abbreviation "X"
JetJaguar | 03/05/06
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21% Windows bug unpatched
luckybit | 03/06/06
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Do all these statistics REALLY mean anything?
jbkendrick | 03/18/06
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Mac = 14 Os Upgrades? Windows = 1 ?
peacheasy | 03/22/06
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