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May 8th, 2006

Why do 'thin' computers cost more than PCs?

Posted by George Ou @ 5:38 pm

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Something that has always struck me as odd is the fact that thin computers cost more than full fledged computers even though they’re not nearly as well equipped with things like high-performance processors or local hard drive storage.  Take the brand new Sun Ray 2FS for example which starts at $499 with no monitor or the Sun Ray 170 comes with an integrated 17 inch LCD display that runs $869.  Either product cost way more than a full fledged PC like the Dell Dimension 1100 which includes a 17 inch LCD display which can be purchased as low as $349 or similar deals with 19 inch LCD displays for only $50 more.

Now to be fair to Sun, other thin client manufacturers like Wise are fairly expensive too, but am I the only one that sees a problem with the entire thin computing pricing model here?  Sure you have some impressive power saving features where the Sun Ray can operate with less than 10 watts of power (excluding monitor), but low voltage is easy to achieve when you don’t have a hard drive and you don’t need a lot of local CPU performance.  The problem is that it’s going to be difficult to justify the initial expense when the cost difference is so high even though you can make it up in a few years in electricity bills.  With newer low-power processors coming out at the end of this year, low power computing will be more common in value PCs and the power difference will be slashed to 20 watts or less per station which will make the electric savings even more difficult to justify the additional expense of thin computers.

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Not the point of rich clients
The point of rich clients is that they work better and are more responsive. They can work offline, you can have local instantanious storage.... (Read the rest)
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What the market will bear  Richard Flude | 05/08/06
huh?  toadlife | 05/08/06
Not at all  Richard Flude | 05/09/06
I did ask  zzz1234567890 | 05/09/06
Sorry Richard  toadlife | 05/09/06
Let's do the sums then  Richard Flude | 05/09/06
Good estimate  toadlife | 05/09/06
It all depends on how you manage your PCs  georgeou | 05/09/06
So if you manage PC's like thin clients  Robert Crocker | 05/10/06
Not the point of rich clients  georgeou | 05/11/06
FreeNX as in Beer  D. T. Schmitz | 05/08/06
Right Carl  Richard Flude | 05/08/06
Yes, but you can buy a cheap PC and do this  georgeou | 05/08/06
Just a thought...  ju1ce | 05/09/06
TCO does not justify price  mosborne | 05/09/06
I really do not like thin clients  P. Douglas | 05/08/06
do not like them in a box. I do not like them with a fox I do not like...  Richard Flude | 05/08/06
I asked a lot of people and they all said thin is good for other people  georgeou | 05/08/06
curious  richvball44 | 05/09/06
This made me chuckle, I must say  mosborne | 05/09/06
History  TonyMcS | 05/08/06
I mostly agree  georgeou | 05/08/06
god gawd  richvball44 | 05/09/06
I'm talking about power users  georgeou | 05/09/06
Real world example  Richard Flude | 05/08/06
And did you factor in productivity?  georgeou | 05/08/06
same for the other side  tombalablomba | 05/08/06
I won't disagree for data-entry folks  georgeou | 05/09/06
Who are these "regular office workers" you speak of  Richard Flude | 05/09/06
To answer  nucrash | 05/09/06
Fine, so 80+% of users are covered by thin clients  Richard Flude | 05/09/06
pretty much everyone --- except maybe you  zzz1234567890 | 05/09/06
It probably doesn't make the most sense...  ju1ce | 05/09/06
Depends on the Application Need  nucrash | 05/09/06
The right application makes sense  grillin_man | 05/09/06
VPN from home  nucrash | 05/09/06
Oh please  mosborne | 05/09/06
Yes, and I assume he has too  Richard Flude | 05/08/06
Again, I'm for thin clients when we're talking about data-entry  georgeou | 05/09/06
Why just data entry?  D. T. Schmitz | 05/09/06
Data Entry is the easiest to replace  nucrash | 05/10/06
Cost and whatever!  Jackbacson | 05/09/06
Weighing in on Thin Clients  nucrash | 05/09/06
In Addendum  nucrash | 05/09/06
Once again, hardware costs DO NOT MATTER  Roger Ramjet | 05/09/06
You're stretching here, and with this stretching, it's breaking  cd2_z | 05/11/06
Thin clients have been around for years ...  mwagner@... | 05/09/06
Two things  Robert Crocker | 05/09/06
Thin Clients were all there was proir to 1980  llundgren@... | 05/10/06

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