You'll survive George...
Arnout Groen | 07/24/06
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I don't use much power to begin with
georgeou | 07/24/06
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re: I don't use much power
cbradshaw@... | 07/24/06
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I need something more silent
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Honda e-gens are the best
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Go christmas shopping early George...
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Sure
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Be Safe
D-T-Schmitz | 07/24/06
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Thanks Dietrich
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Word on the street
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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It was pretty bad in Livermore
richardbennett | 07/24/06
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re: It was pretty bad in Livermore
MichaelJMotal | 07/24/06
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They fixed it
richardbennett | 07/24/06
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Would be nice if electric grid was smart
georgeou | 07/24/06
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That's greed for you
voska | 07/24/06
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Some are (sort of)
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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I like the basement idea
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Now I remember why I live here.
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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And I love the auto shutoff even more though I'd mandate it for homes
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Where George and I are
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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check google maps
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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Ummm
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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ummm
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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uclear Fusion ... Just the one youget from the Sun.
p_msac@... | 07/31/06
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What do you base this conclusion on?
georgeou | 07/31/06
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Electromagnetic Fusion ... a big no way.
p_msac@... | 08/01/06
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I tried to go without A/C
nucrash | 07/24/06
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force yourself
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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All too true
nucrash | 07/25/06
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Do what I did, turn it off durring the day
balsover | 07/25/06
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But my folding scores!!!
nucrash | 07/25/06
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*chukcles*
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Welcome to my world ...
Linux_4u! | 07/24/06
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Tell it like it was
grntwtr@... | 07/24/06
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You don't use that thing in the garage do you?
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Nope ...
Linux_4u! | 07/24/06
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Too little too late
baggins_z | 07/24/06
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You have this little problem called a Democratic filibuster
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Time to think outside the box...
JDThompson | 07/24/06
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Buses and trains are even LESS efficient in most of america
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Well maybe we need to look at what
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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You can't really sqander energy
voska | 07/24/06
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Say what??
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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fossil fuels waste 70%
voska | 07/25/06
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Wake up.
dave.leigh@... | 07/25/06
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BINGO! Give the man a pack of gum!
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Survival
Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/24/06
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The problem with your method
Michael Kelly | 07/24/06
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I blame Enron...
montie_3 | 07/24/06
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We should buy power from Mexico
nucrash | 07/24/06
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Enron
SkipNewarkDE | 07/24/06
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Just don't ask us Californians to look in the mirror
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Hence the source of the problem
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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That was figurative
georgeou | 07/24/06
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But you hesitate on solar
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Yes, I don't have $15,000 to $20,000 spare
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Did you see the other
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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we do
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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$3.12 a Gallon!
mark.roberts@... | 07/24/06
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Actual cost of gas is probably about $2 globally
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Actually the taxes averages out
SkipNewarkDE | 07/24/06
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And with out those taxes
voska | 07/24/06
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thered be no roads....
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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Wow so cheap
TonyMcS | 07/24/06
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It's too bad that heat couldn't be stored and used in the winter
voska | 07/25/06
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Hot Office
Rob Groh | 07/24/06
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Windows should be made to open
judyndoug | 07/24/06
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Common sense
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Thanks
judyndoug | 07/25/06
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I do every day...
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Windows should be made to open
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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We need more energy efficient machines
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Wrong
baggins_z | 07/24/06
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We need conservation and more production
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Reminds me of a sci-fi story...
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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not to mention the silence
georgeou | 07/24/06
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abacusses
richvball44 | 07/25/06
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Abaci
dave.leigh@... | 07/25/06
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And how do you get that?
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Have you priced solar?
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Yes and I am powered by solar
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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The ROI is not there yet
georgeou | 07/25/06
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That's funny because myself and
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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One question: What's the life span of a solar array?
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Clarification
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Mark
Linux User 147560 | 07/31/06
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Thanks
Mark Miller | 07/31/06
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Too bad we couldn't...
nucrash | 07/25/06
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I've seen systems for far less
voska | 07/25/06
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Show me the specific link on the panels
georgeou | 07/25/06
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How much did you spend on your
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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I don't have a link as it was mail catalog
voska | 07/25/06
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Adding to George's point
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Mark
Linux User 147560 | 07/31/06
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Hot water
timpin1@... | 07/26/06
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Hot water is the highest conversion factor, but not always most useful
georgeou | 07/26/06
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a few suggestions
Mr_Dave | 07/24/06
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I remember those old patents
balsover | 07/25/06
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running out of electricity
eglazier@... | 07/24/06
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Dependency on govenrment and convenience
judyndoug | 07/24/06
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re: Dependency on
cbradshaw@... | 07/24/06
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Exactly
judyndoug | 07/25/06
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Electric Cars
MichaelJMotal | 07/24/06
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5% electric cars would bring down the grid in CA
georgeou | 07/24/06
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re 5% electric cars would bring down the grid in CA
MichaelJMotal | 07/25/06
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I'll be happy to store it in my back yard
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Sorry George but there are better
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Read the link on what Patrick Moore says
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Still I would
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Those are not good reasons
georgeou | 07/25/06
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So what you are saying
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Alternatives.
dave.leigh@... | 07/25/06
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It isn't clean
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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It is the cleanest form of energy
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Sorry George but
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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Barely anyone died at Chernobyl
georgeou | 07/25/06
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And the environmentalists stop the safest form of energy
georgeou | 07/26/06
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Thanks for the link
Linux User 147560 | 07/26/06
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Think logically, please.
dave.leigh@... | 07/26/06
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Very good post Dave
georgeou | 07/26/06
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It could've been a rant.
dave.leigh@... | 07/26/06
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Toxicity depends on dosage
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Use the Big Reactor...
wmlundine | 07/24/06
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Nope
baggins_z | 07/24/06
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Good One!
wmlundine | 07/25/06
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With that kind of defeatist thinking
Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 07/25/06
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Power outtages all over...
D. W. Bierbaum | 07/24/06
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That sucks...
JDThompson | 07/24/06
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Just don't ask us Californians to look in the mirror
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Oh, and don't blame a dead oil man on electricity
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Enron did plead guilty
WiredGuy | 07/24/06
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Yes, and it's not enough power
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Maybe we should have found a way...
nucrash | 07/25/06
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Infrastruction failures
WiredGuy | 07/24/06
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We need more supply and better infrastructure
georgeou | 07/24/06
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I think you need an exodus.
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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Don't know what happened here.
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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Probably a power glitch
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Population density wise is NOT bad at all
georgeou | 07/24/06
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That's what's been happening
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Bingo!
Linux User 147560 | 07/31/06
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I think you need an exodus.
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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I think you need an exodus.
dave.leigh@... | 07/24/06
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how 'bout moving out of silcon valley?
jtiner | 07/24/06
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I would love everything about Texas except for the heat
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Re: I would love everything about Texas except for the heat
jtiner | 07/24/06
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Good to know
georgeou | 07/24/06
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San Joaquin Valley
toadlife | 07/24/06
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Dude my heart is with you
georgeou | 07/24/06
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Low Voltage
xstep | 07/24/06
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Come to my Country and Learn
Bryce Streese | 07/24/06
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George
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Thanks for the link
georgeou | 07/24/06
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You're welcome!
Linux User 147560 | 07/24/06
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Maybe if people and companies
Roger Ramjet | 07/25/06
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Maybe if...
nucrash | 07/25/06
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Gee
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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I may have indirectly mentioned that
nucrash | 07/25/06
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Yes you did.
Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 07/25/06
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And Dixie.
dave.leigh@... | 07/25/06
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Not all in Dixie
Roger Ramjet | 07/25/06
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Oh... well, Atlanta's become a bit Yankee-fied.
dave.leigh@... | 07/25/06
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Quit that biching
Roger Ramjet | 07/26/06
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Cool your jets, Ramjet.
dave.leigh@... | 07/26/06
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Ya'll just come to the Midwest
nucrash | 07/26/06
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I feel your pain
jfp | 07/25/06
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$12,000 for a 1000 watt solar system
georgeou | 07/25/06
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So who makes the money on this
Roger Ramjet | 07/25/06
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Practical solar power
georgeou | 07/25/06
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What is with peoples fear of Green and renewable
Linux User 147560 | 07/25/06
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So has Patrick Moore sold out then?
georgeou | 07/25/06
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IMO Patrick Moore was always realistic
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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Agreed
georgeou | 07/29/06
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By the way, I don't own an SUV
georgeou | 07/25/06
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Educate
Linux User 147560 | 07/26/06
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Well thanks, but it's still money I don't have
georgeou | 07/26/06
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You are absolutely almost correct!
Linux User 147560 | 07/26/06
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Again, solar and all the alternatives aren't close to being enough
georgeou | 07/26/06
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Did you check
Linux User 147560 | 07/26/06
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You expect an argument, maybe?
dave.leigh@... | 07/26/06
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I'm hip on the power issue
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 07/27/06
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Other methods of insulation
Mark Miller | 07/28/06
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