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March 7th, 2007

Choosing between Vista x86 32 bit or x64 64 bit

Posted by George Ou @ 3:41 am

Categories: AMD, Desktop, Hardware, Intel, Mobile/Wireless, Processors, Vista

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Drivers are the death of x64

The second thing you must check is to see if all your hardware has x64 Vista driver support, either included in the OS or downloadable from the hardware vendor.  At this point, many motherboard makers have failed to include the latest 5.1 sound and network drivers, and you might have to look to the chipset maker for drivers.  For example, you can find Realtek 32/64 bit drivers here for Gigabit LAN and 5.1 audio support.  NVIDIA has the latest 32 bit and 64 bit drivers.  ATI (AMD) has 32 and 64 bit drivers here.  Creative has drivers here, but its x64 support is sorely lacking, and it's either missing or in beta.  While these are the fundamental hardware drivers you'll need, the killer for Vista x64 edition is finding drivers for obscure hardware like cameras, printers, scanners, and other accessories.

You don't have to worry about 32 bit software compatibility in Windows Vista or XP x64, since they run natively and seamlessly, but drivers are an absolute killer.  If you happen to find 32 bit drivers for your device but no 64 bit drivers, you're out of luck if you're running x64 Windows XP or Vista.  For this reason, x64 edition for a typical consumer is usually not very practical because there are simply too many hardware peripherals you won't be able to use.  Getting the computer itself to work is relatively easy; it's the one or two obscure devices that stops you dead in your tracks if you must have that device working.  For this reason, no PC maker (that I'm aware of) will pre-load x64 edition of Windows on its PC because it will be a support nightmare if a customer starts complaining about a printer driver that won't load.  To this date, Apple iTunes won't support any x64 edition of Windows, and it will absolutely not work at all because of hardware driver issues.

Servers, on the other hand, don't typically ever need to see peripheral devices, and they need to work with only the limited set of hardware they're sold with.  Any self-respecting server hardware trying to sell you something like an HBA Fiber Channel adapter or iSCSI adapter will have to offer full x64 support.  Microsoft Exchange Server 2007, for example, ONLY comes in x64 editions, and we're likely to see more software coming out like this to promote 64 bit.  There is very little risk in standardizing on x64 edition in the data center since all legacy 32 bit applications will run natively at full speed.

Dedicated workstations for professionals are another great candidate for x64 edition so long as they're willing to put up with limited peripheral support.  x64 allows high performance computing tasks to run extremely fast and efficiently.  The free Paint.NET image editing application, for example, is fully optimized for multi-core and x64, yet Adobe can't get its act together and won't even release an x64 edition of the upcoming Photoshop CS3.  That doesn't mean you can't run x86 Photoshop; in fact, it will still probably run a little better on Windows x64 because more than 4 GBs of RAM can be supported with ease, which gives more memory to Photoshop.  It's just a crying shame for Adobe to lag behind, because Paint.NET has shown tremendous speed increases using x64 for filtering and layering effects on the order of 50 to 100 percent speed boosts.  Adobe should have been supporting x64 two years ago and it won't even do it next year.

The bottom line is that you have to look at your own hardware limitations before you can make any kind of a transition.  If all the hardware you want to use will work on Vista x64, it's well worth the transition.

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RE: Choosing between Vista x86 32 bit or x64 64 bit
I have a related question. here's the background....new laptop has 64-bit Vista Home Premium. We have recently updated accounting software so we can make this laptop a workstation and the software w... (Read the rest)
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Making it simple  dave.leigh@... | 03/07/07
Thanks for the tip!  Tazjhe | 03/07/07
Ditto! (nt)  klumper | 03/07/07
Using XP x64  bmccann@... | 03/07/07
The benefit will come.  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
Vista upgrade advisor??  sfeldman67@... | 03/07/07
No, it does not.  ShadeTree | 03/07/07
upgrade 32bit to 64bit  LouChristie | 01/04/09
This is where  Linux User 147560 | 03/07/07
Actually it is also where Vista shines too.  ShadeTree | 03/07/07
why Linux provides 64-bit drivers faster than Vista  Mitch 74 | 03/09/07
I would wait until all the hardware is 64 bit.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
PCI data path has nothing to do with x64  georgeou | 03/07/07
We will still be retrieving data at 32 bits.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
Your issue is irrelevant  georgeou | 03/07/07
Not Really.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
Again, you don't need that kind of bandwidth for most cards  georgeou | 03/07/07
True, but I was in a purist mode. Sound would have less latency.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
You're going off into orbit  klumper | 03/07/07
I suppose  osreinstall | 03/07/07
Hard drives run off the SATA interface directly off the Motherboard  georgeou | 03/07/07
I will wait for sp1 for mainly other reasons like software.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
The current generation of hard drives using ...  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Shadetree I gave it some thought.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
If you don't like paging to disk...  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
I do as much as I can afford.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
Solid State drives use flash not RAM  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
I saw a ram disk that connected to a cable.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
Why would you buy an external housing and ....  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Separate swap file reduces fragmentation.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
You talk out both sides of your mouth.  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
No I don't Shady.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
PCI-e is not 64-bit. It comes in 1x, 2x...  bjbrock | 03/07/07
Yes it is.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
No it isn't!  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
I read up on it.  osreinstall | 03/08/07
george_ou is right, and you should be using PCIE anyways.  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
There are cheap $40 motherboards that even have PCI-Express  georgeou | 03/07/07
Not all the slots are though.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
You don't need more than 32 bit PCI for a sound card  georgeou | 03/07/07
For now  osreinstall | 03/07/07
For quite some time  boxmonkey | 03/07/07
Sooner than you think.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
Even uncompressed 7.1 DTS audio does ....  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Shadetree  osreinstall | 03/08/07
Multiple HD Audio channels might require 10 mbps  georgeou | 03/07/07
Cakewalk is talking about 64 bit audio  osreinstall | 03/07/07
You're confused beyond hope  georgeou | 03/07/07
Whatever George  osreinstall | 03/08/07
Cakewalk is a 64bit application for ...  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
If Creative needs that much bandwidth, they should use PCIE.  CobraA1 | 03/07/07
I don't like creative anymore  osreinstall | 03/07/07
Okay, I get where you're going  CobraA1 | 03/09/07
Save $10 on that mainboard you showed me.  osreinstall | 03/07/07
64-bit drivers vs. 64-bit hardware  bbbl67 | 03/08/07
I agree  dragosani | 03/07/07
Creative is pretty bad  georgeou | 03/07/07
Excellent link  georgeou | 03/07/07
Small correction  klumper | 03/07/07
Thanks, you're right  georgeou | 03/07/07
The the word Vista in the title should have been Windows  WiredGuy | 03/07/07
Good point  georgeou | 03/07/07
Vista was Microsoft's chance  boxmonkey | 03/07/07
Intel & 64 Bit  jimc52@... | 03/07/07
You're over simplifying things  georgeou | 03/07/07
Yep, I am simplifying it alright...  jimc52@... | 03/07/07
Driver Nightmares  goordman | 03/07/07
My experience with XP Pro x64...  JustMichael | 03/08/07
Sounds fishy to me  georgeou | 03/08/07
Fishier than Cox reeling them in  klumper | 03/08/07
Neither of you is really thinking here...  JustMichael | 03/10/07
Alright, I misread you.  georgeou | 03/11/07
Thanks Michael  jimc52@... | 03/08/07
My home theater system is ...  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Sounds like a very expensive power draw  georgeou | 03/08/07
I agree that it is not very power efficient.  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Also,  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Well, you may be able to afford it, but the noise and heat are still issues  georgeou | 03/08/07
The Heat and the Noise are relative.  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
my sound blaster X-FI  SO.CAL Guy | 03/09/07
They really are not needed with the integrated ....  ShadeTree | 03/09/07
Most games require EAX  georgeou | 03/10/07
I don't know that I would say most games.  ShadeTree | 03/11/07
Every game that I have played required it  georgeou | 03/11/07
The OS doesn't insist on a swap file ...  ShadeTree | 03/08/07
Yes it does  osreinstall | 03/09/07
I use XP x64  kmrh@... | 03/09/07
Correction...  kmrh@... | 03/09/07
Can You Choose Which to Install?  Argent A. | 03/09/07
It comes with to DVD's one with  SO.CAL Guy | 03/09/07
It comes with to DVD's one with  Argent A. | 03/09/07
Only Ultimate comes with both 32-bit & 64-bit DVDs  MisterEd51 | 03/12/07
Dell  tripdad | 03/09/07
Death by Drivers (well put)  alexeig | 03/09/07
iTunes?  irvin59 | 03/09/07
iTunes on 64 Bit  danoplus | 03/23/07
iTunes  rgray318 | 05/16/07
What about a WinXP32 VM?  frankleichler@... | 03/09/07
Core 2 Duo notebooks not fully 64bit  impala_sc | 03/09/07
4 GB memory limit doesn't mean it's not 64 bit  georgeou | 03/10/07
AMD CPU has memory controller built-in  bbbl67 | 03/10/07
IS THIS A BIOS SWITCH?  BALTHOR | 03/09/07
Extra bonus for 64 bit  jgarrott@... | 03/09/07
a 64-bit linux to try  intj-astral@... | 03/16/07
Wrong! Photoshop is faster  ewelch | 03/09/07
That misses the point  georgeou | 03/10/07
Nothing in the article is incorrect  charlesnburns@... | 03/09/07
It's not incorrect...  msalzberg | 03/10/07
That wasn't the point  georgeou | 03/10/07
If they develop a...  msalzberg | 03/10/07
They do need two binaries  georgeou | 03/11/07
OS X has been 64 bit...  msalzberg | 03/11/07
PPC version was partially 64 bit  georgeou | 03/11/07
Talk about a reality distortion field!  msalzberg | 03/11/07
RE: Choosing between Vista x86 32 bit or x64 64 bit  etude57@... | 09/10/07
There is a way of printing PDF Natively Under x64  Shad4Ever@... | 09/18/07
Compatibility problems ?  Shad4Ever@... | 09/18/07
RE: Choosing between Vista x86 32 bit or x64 64 bit  thaleus | 07/31/08
RE: Choosing between Vista x86 32 bit or x64 64 bit  Guystock | 09/16/09

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