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March 19th, 2007

Should Apple be making fun of Vista UAC?

Posted by George Ou @ 11:54 am

Categories: Apple, Desktop, Security, Vista

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Windows Vista UAC (User Account Control) has an additional security feature called Secure Desktop that hardens the UAC privilege escalation prompt, but some people seem to be upset with this feature because they say it's annoying. Apple has even gone as far as making a new TV commercial out of it with "PC" being bossed around by a scary looking man in a black suit nagging him on each word. But is this really an accurate assessment?

I don't really care how many times people say, "Oh, but UAC bothers you for no reason," because it's simply not true. Anyone who says that hasn't used Vista, and they don't really know what they're talking about. Vista and Mac OS X (as well as any version of UNIX) will ALL prompt for privilege escalation any time you try to install software, and that's how desktop operating systems should work. Windows XP and prior didn't have graceful mechanisms for handling privilege escalation and they forced you to log out and back in if you wanted to run without administrator mode, so not very many people implemented it. Vista's late to the game but that's moot since it's here now, and we need to evaluate UAC for what it is. Let's compare Vista UAC privilege escalation to Mac OS X privilege escalation with the following two videos.  

Here's Windows Vista UAC at work when I try to install software. *

Here's Mac OS X privilege escalation when you try to update software.

* Note that I had to temporarily shut off the Secure Desktop feature to capture the screen movie because Secure Desktop actually locks up the entire desktop, which prevents any application from interacting or seeing the UAC prompt. Vista UAC Secure Desktop is an added security measure that prevents malicious software from interacting or masking the UAC prompt in a way that might social-engineer users into clicking Allow. This doesn't actually change the user interaction or the keystrokes required, other than the fact that you no longer see the background dim, so it doesn't change the comparison in anyway. The Mac video was shot by our own Jason Hiner with a camcorder, which is why you see the moiré patterns over the video. I'll need to ask you to pretend you see the Vista desktop dim and pretend you don't see any moiré patterns on the Mac desktop.

As you can see, Mac OS X actually requires you to do MORE work by having you type in the administrator password, whereas Vista (for the primary user running as a limited admin) only prompts you to click Allow. So if we really wanted to make the Apple commercial accurate, there should be a second security guard that makes "Mac" recite a series of letters before he gives the OK to proceed. What we have is another case of deceptive advertising. Vista UAC really isn't that bad. This is something that Mac OS X and Linux users have been living with for years, and it's something that Windows Users need to get use to for their own protection.

If Vista UAC really bothers you that much, you can turn it off and simply accept the risk of running with full administrative privileges.  I'm not going to link to any tutorials on disabling UAC because anyone who can't figure out how to turn off UAC probably shouldn't be turning it off in the first place. I'm sorry if that sounds blunt, but I don't want to give any advice that endangers anyone's PC.

George Ou is Technical Director of ZDNet. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Microsoft Partner: Vista less secure than XP  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
P.S.  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
I'm confused . .  john.murray@... | 03/19/07
1st Paragraph  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
Missed hypocrisy?  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Priceless  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
Expert? Then get his sorry butt over here  John Zern | 03/19/07
less intrusive and less secure  woot! | 03/19/07
Unless you are running your PC on a limited account.  ajole | 03/23/07
Re: less intrusive and less secure  william.furr@... | 03/28/07
Message has been deleted.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Anybody who telsl me those commercials aren't effective...  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
I didn't say there weren't effective. Joseph Gerbils was "effective"  georgeou | 03/19/07
Who is " Joseph Gerbils"?  Harry_Boner | 03/19/07
Oh sure I know the answer but why answer...  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
Be sure you don't make a typo yourself when you criticize other people  georgeou | 03/19/07
So your comparing Apple's Ads to Genocide?  Tigertank | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Ummm....my aunt and cousins base IT descisions on commercials.  nomorems | 03/19/07
"Apple is a master of propaganda."  nomorems | 03/19/07
nomorems: Grow Up!  ye | 03/19/07
re:I didn't say there weren't effective. Joseph Gerbils was "effective"  joe6pack_z | 03/19/07
Why base IT security decisions on TV commercials...  ignis fatuusz | 03/19/07
OK...so ye must be George by a different name.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Beware of Rodent Propagandists  noisecraft | 03/19/07
Me too!  Harry_Boner | 03/19/07
I thought he was trying to make a Richard Gere joke...  tic swayback | 03/19/07
If that's how you want to judge me, that's your prerogative  georgeou | 03/19/07
Not a personal attack, but...  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
Message has been deleted.  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
Message has been deleted.  BubbaJ | 03/20/07
I believe you mean Joseph Goebels...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Yeah I screwed up the funky German spelling  georgeou | 03/19/07
Your welcome ...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Your welcome ...  ShadeTree | 03/19/07
Yeah, Harry was poking fun of my spelling and he screwed up his own  georgeou | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
More than a simple spelling mistake  Tigertank | 03/19/07
Actually, I beleive it's  John Zern | 03/19/07
You beleive? You mean you believe!  nomorems | 03/19/07
please notice  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
Lunatix_Z  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Linux_z spelled backwards........are your ******* in a bunch?  nomorems | 03/19/07
I can't believe it stevey_d  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
"He make derogatory remarks about anything, race, gender whatever."  nomorems | 03/19/07
Off subject for nomorems  John Zern | 03/19/07
No. He meant Joeseph Gerbils.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
never posted until I read this one  jbeggy | 03/19/07
I read the one  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
George, You have to email me what you said  nucrash | 03/20/07
2nd Paragraph  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
You know what they say...  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
please clarify  Badgered | 03/19/07
I am happy your experience has been positive  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
I'll answer with what I know  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Annoyance is relative  Patanjali | 03/19/07
A voice of reason  klumper | 03/20/07
Yeah, and most of them stink.  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
On a new machine Vista's UAC CONSTANTLY asks...for everything! VPN, FTP,  nomorems | 03/19/07
if that's the case  Badgered | 03/20/07
pardon my fuzzy memory  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Truely clueless  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/19/07
Dude! Quit posting so you can see you name!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Because  Swift48 | 03/21/07
Well, that "expert" doesn't make any sense  georgeou | 03/19/07
OK. Perfect.  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
vulnerabilities george... and before they became exploits...  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Wait till more than 12 people are using Vista.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Maybe,  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
The people that disable UAC are the same ones that run in Admin mode in XP  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
The subtext  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Actually.  fredsmith6 | 03/20/07
UAC just isn't all that secure  jfp | 03/19/07
We're talking about breaking programmatic exploitation  georgeou | 03/19/07
That's just dishonest, UAC much more annoying  willhoyt | 03/19/07
dishonesty  Jack-Booted EULA | 03/19/07
Furthermore  frgough | 03/19/07
Swiss cheese is when you have 62 vulnerabilities in less than 3 months  georgeou | 03/19/07
And how many have actually been exploited?  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
To my knowledge no Vista vulnerability has been exploited.  ye | 03/19/07
you're an idiot! it's 62 vulnerabilities not exploits...  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Vulnerabilities are a danger as...  ye | 03/19/07
Calm down docotr. George DOES know. He is just playing his AD's!  nomorems | 03/19/07
doesn't change the fact that no exploits written before holes were closed.  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
doctorSpoc: You've never made a mistake?  ye | 03/19/07
Yes, Doctor SPOC, George is an idiot. With a harem of 1000 Microsoft shills  nomorems | 03/19/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Tu Quoque fallacy  frgough | 03/20/07
Shame on George  1macgeek | 03/20/07
OUCH, ya been "B" slapped.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/19/07
You bet. Georges words hurt the MIND! Ouch!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Of course they hurt  John Zern | 03/19/07
Then you must be installing software "ALL THE TIME"  georgeou | 03/19/07
What exactly  Badgered | 03/19/07
You shills really are something  willhoyt | 03/19/07
Word triggers UAC? You're showing a good deal of ignorance.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Word triggers UAC? You're showing a good deal of ignorance.  georgeou | 03/19/07
Reason is your friend  themacolyte | 03/20/07
You've never really used Vista have you?  Badgered | 03/20/07
"I?m just showing you the facts on who?s really the annoying one"  nomorems | 03/19/07
I can't believe you are thinking that you make sense  ChipWinter | 03/19/07
What do users do with OK prompts?  voska | 03/20/07
My kids won't install things while I'm in the batheroom.  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 03/25/07
Vista can be set to prompt for user ID and PW.  ye | 03/19/07
And Yet George comments on Macs all the time.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Two wrongs don't make a right.  ye | 03/19/07
How is it 'clear' that my Vista use is absent? Do you work with me?  nomorems | 03/19/07
It's clear because what you say about it is wrong.  ye | 03/19/07
OK. And how is that?  nomorems | 03/19/07
If you disagree with something I've written then...  ye | 03/19/07
Ohh...I get it. It's OK for Microsoft supports but not OK for anyone else!  nomorems | 03/19/07
It's not that your supporting something else, it's...  ye | 03/20/07
Disqualification  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Clueless Critics  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Yup, the main reason of UAC is enforcing Win2K policies  georgeou | 03/19/07
Yup. UAC is nothing other than warmed over 'tech'.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Absolutely  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
You can make Vista do the same thing, but do we want that?  georgeou | 03/19/07
number of prompts...  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Everyone is MISSING THE POINT!  nomorems | 03/19/07
shutup....  JoeMama_z | 03/19/07
Another disqualification  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Maybe many are afraid  John Zern | 03/19/07
not a chance  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
That was meaningless  John Zern | 03/19/07
because you didn't get what i meant  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Uh, no...there are many processes running on OS X...  ye | 03/19/07
Yes and no.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Wrong...try ps -ax instead  ye | 03/19/07
For non techies  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Great reply by Thomas.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Man, Microsoft is even copying user names from ZDNet?  nomorems | 03/19/07
'Scuse me?  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Missed hypocrisy?  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
Whoops  william.furr@... | 03/19/07
I did not miss point, George did  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Links please!  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Again, more ignorance  georgeou | 03/19/07
Different Views, Multi-user vs. Single user  themacolyte | 03/20/07
Windows Deserves it  astawerksdotcom | 03/19/07
number of prompts...  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
ignore parent post  Voodoo187 | 03/19/07
Denile  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
It's moot because it hasn't made a dent in Windows market share  georgeou | 03/19/07
How convenient that you use Apple's patch  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
Vista vs OSX Market Share  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
The difference is...  ye | 03/19/07
Vacuum  Harry Bardal | 03/19/07
Oh please!  ye | 03/19/07
Marketshare  Harry Bardal | 03/20/07
Can you buy a new PC without Vista?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Try Dell  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
Won't last more than a few months  georgeou | 03/19/07
You'd be surprised George.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
Hate to tell it to you but you just added a bit more evidence!  nomorems | 03/19/07
"Can you buy a new PC without Vista?"  nomorems | 03/19/07
You can buy a Microsoft free system from Dell.  ye | 03/19/07
And I will bet 500$ that users CAN find this link EASILY!  nomorems | 03/19/07
You make me laugh!!  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Here you go George PC without Vista  mrlinux | 03/20/07
Hypocrisy  Harry Bardal | 03/20/07
You didn't? Funny, you put marketshare in your title.  ye | 03/20/07
118 Posts from George this year and NO intellegent discourse!  nomorems | 03/19/07
Exploit vs Vulnerability  msalzberg | 03/19/07
You keep drinking that kool-aid  georgeou | 03/19/07
Where are the exploits?  msalzberg | 03/20/07
How many times must it be said: Marketshare.  ye | 03/20/07
Again, that can't be the only thing...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
Re; Marketshare.  ky_druid | 03/21/07
Hmmm, Mac 10.4 is several years old. Vista has 46 exploits  usc1801 | 03/21/07
Where do you make these numbers up for Vista?  georgeou | 03/25/07
Reality Check  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
What the facts say  frgough | 03/19/07
Man are you guys CLUELESS  ye | 03/19/07
You might know this is you actually bothered to LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT Vista.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Maybe so you'll be able to make an INFORMED...  ye | 03/19/07
Oh...great Marketing Schtick! Know it BEFORE you buy it!  nomorems | 03/19/07
There's a difference between...  ye | 03/19/07
There IS a difference! I say READ READ READ! USE USE USE! You say 'Get MS'  nomorems | 03/19/07
As a computer user,  msalzberg | 03/19/07
Keep on trollin'  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Choice is good  klumper | 03/19/07
Choice is Good. There's no point in hyping Microsoft over other vendors.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Nothing wrong with choice. But there is something wrong...  ye | 03/19/07
OK. So someone who does not buy Microsoft warez product unseen is usless???  nomorems | 03/19/07
I'll stop responding to you.  ye | 03/19/07
Actually  Badgered | 03/23/07
We're on the same page  klumper | 03/19/07
Facts, indeed.  M.R. Kennedy | 03/19/07
Patched n loaded  klumper | 03/20/07
Patches? We don' NEED no stinkin' patches!  M.R. Kennedy | 03/20/07
Remember when computers ONLY  LittleGuy | 03/19/07
The good 'ol days of 1994. (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
It does bring back tears happy  klumper | 03/19/07
Yes, I do.  GTWilson | 03/22/07
UAC much more intrusive than OS X  TashaG | 03/19/07
OH yeah one other thing  TashaG | 03/19/07
To Dual platform goddess  rolla_ifs@... | 03/19/07
actually, it's that way for a good reason  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
Agreement from a Windows IT guy...  jdriddle | 03/21/07
Annoying repetitive queries are harmful  PhilippeV | 03/21/07
What apps are you using?  george_k | 03/26/07
Less prompts doesn't mean that is better...  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
The comercial is funny  gtdavies33@... | 03/19/07
It is funny  Badgered | 03/19/07
Guess you don't use Vista like a REAL WORLD user!  nomorems | 03/19/07
And that would make you  John Zern | 03/19/07
wow  Badgered | 03/21/07
Yep. Because...  BitTwiddler | 03/19/07
Should George be writing articles about Apple...  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Couple of things  georgeou | 03/19/07
Probably  tic swayback | 03/19/07
You've already been proven wrong so badly why do you even care?  georgeou | 03/19/07
What's he been proven wrong about?  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
Where's all that proof?  tic swayback | 03/19/07
great response!!  Arm A. Geddon | 03/19/07
Proven wrong? By what, your words? Those are worthless! (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
tic... one Ou week = 2.6 years  doctorSpoc | 03/19/07
Unstuck in time  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Yeah, I see what you mean  xuniL_z | 03/19/07
Two wrongs don't make a right  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Nah  xuniL_z | 03/20/07
"should he (X_Zunil) behave in a similar manner?  Ole Man | 03/21/07
George: Fourth, I'm waiting on Microsoft to tell me what to do. (NT)  nomorems | 03/19/07
Likely story  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
A new SBW....  bkwatch | 03/19/07
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA  nix_hed | 03/21/07
That's not "a couple" of things, George  therobotman | 03/22/07
you've got it.  Arm A. Geddon | 03/19/07
ha ha ha ha  blackRiver | 03/20/07
The whole thread  Ripragged | 03/19/07
Wrong target  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/19/07
Experience counts  People | 03/19/07
You think Win95 is a real multi-user system?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Nope.  People | 03/19/07
oooooohhh!!!  nomorems | 03/19/07
A Significant Difference....  brichpmr@... | 03/19/07
Not a Fair Comparison  Thomas Paluchniak | 03/19/07
You're clueless about Vista  georgeou | 03/19/07
Adobe CS on Macs  sordito | 03/19/07
But Mac dude says you're imagining it  georgeou | 03/19/07
Apple writes Adobe's software?  tic swayback | 03/19/07
Does Microsoft write Quickbooks?  georgeou | 03/19/07
Actually, what we are left with is Microsoft calling millions of developers  nomorems | 03/19/07
And so do I because you're WRONG or lying  j.m.galvin | 03/19/07
George, it is also prompting for things not needed  TripleII | 03/19/07
I'd love to hear some examples...  toadlife | 03/19/07
How bout read some example, hard to post .mp3 grin  TripleII | 03/19/07
And like I said, you don't understand the concept of shared icon  georgeou | 03/19/07
I don't think you understand time causality  TripleII | 03/19/07
easy  JoeMama_z | 03/19/07
If that is sound security, push for it  TripleII | 03/19/07
It's clear you haven't used Vista since Beta 1 or you're just citing old  georgeou | 03/19/07
How recently...  brichpmr@... | 03/19/07
I never made false claims about OS X  georgeou | 03/19/07
In Your Opinion.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Exactly  Julien Collot | 03/20/07
Please provide steps  NonZealot | 03/20/07
Link please  NonZealot | 03/19/07
He was talking about an old beta and citing paul thorott  georgeou | 03/19/07
No, I EXCLUDED Paut Thorott!  TripleII | 03/19/07
Give me a proper example of non-install prompts  georgeou | 03/19/07
I'll leave it to gtdavies  TripleII | 03/19/07
how about starting a program  TashaG | 03/19/07
Why does Xfire need admin?  NonZealot | 03/19/07
About Xfire  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
Not too many consumers know how to check an MD5 hash  georgeou | 03/20/07
Links  TripleII | 03/19/07
Point by point  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Goog arguments, my response  TripleII | 03/19/07
And my response back  NonZealot | 03/19/07
Try this  toadlife | 03/19/07
"legacy application written for XP"  nomorems | 03/19/07
Has ZDNET not yet figured out who their TRUE readers are?  nomorems | 03/19/07
Good...now go away.  ye | 03/19/07
just don't read the posts if you don't like the poster  stevey_d | 03/19/07
What annoys me so much is that he responds...  ye | 03/19/07
Ugh...me, too...  Grayson Peddie | 03/20/07
nomorems  cmjrees | 05/07/07
Message has been deleted.  nomorems | 03/19/07
Keep Up The Good Work  Ole Man | 03/21/07
Given the greenhouse Apple and Microsoft are in...  joe6pack_z | 03/19/07
George, leave the Nazis out of the argument in future  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Advertising is the art of propaganda  georgeou | 03/19/07
it was a recommendation not a strongly held beleif  stevey_d | 03/19/07
Here George,  D. T. Schmitz | 03/19/07
Yeah, ZDnet absolutely hates advertising  dangitman | 03/19/07
Move out of America?  georgeou | 03/20/07
George's little blog and big ego  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
George Ou: the grand Censor of America  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Oh please stevey, spare us the emotives  klumper | 03/20/07
I had a teacher...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
George! Where is the Love???  nomorems | 03/19/07
Not his fault  fde101 | 03/23/07
Windows XP and earlier do have ways of handling privilege escalation  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 03/19/07
Yes I know, but that's not graceful  georgeou | 03/19/07
Yes they should  roaming | 03/19/07
Are you kidding?  xstep | 03/19/07
Microsoft doesn't need to respond to Apple  georgeou | 03/19/07
Intel and Apple  nucrash | 03/20/07
Actually, that's about all they do  JoeBob_z | 03/20/07
And yet...  msalzberg | 03/20/07
Stupidity knows no bounds  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
I was there  gjsherr | 03/21/07
You've proved that you don't know what you're talking about  georgeou | 03/27/07
Good comparison of Vista and Mac user interaction  michaelz | 03/19/07
Gerbils?  dangitman | 03/19/07
Only comparison is the propaganda  georgeou | 03/19/07
You have to admit..  GTWilson | 03/22/07
this is funny  CobraA1 | 03/20/07
ZDNet dysfunctional in Safari, serious errors in Firefox.  Fred Fredrickson | 03/20/07
I wrote to them months ago about this  j.m.galvin | 03/20/07
On the Contrary  nucrash | 03/20/07
Both videos are a bit misleading...  dwight.silverman@... | 03/20/07
To refute this  nucrash | 03/20/07
Funny Commercial  GoofPuff | 03/20/07
Nice one George Ou  zzz1234567890 | 03/20/07
Brown noser extraordinaire  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Is it about accuracy then?  any_os | 03/20/07
Is it malicious?  NonZealot | 03/20/07
UAC is the first thing I turn off  zaine_ridling | 03/20/07
Where's your sense of humor?  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 03/21/07
Maybe because  Swift48 | 03/21/07
Bothered me  ITguy5678 | 03/21/07
Authentication vs Approval  Resuna | 03/21/07
Apple Lover vs Mac Lover  bob3160_z | 03/21/07
Deceptive Story  dolph0291 | 03/21/07
Neither is perfect  ethman42 | 03/21/07
To sleep, perchance to dream...  gjsherr | 03/21/07
Examples of repetitive UAC prompts  PhilippeV | 03/21/07
What's funny about Mac VS PC commercials  butler360 | 03/22/07
Should Apple be making fun of George Ou?  iMouse | 03/22/07
UAC = HAL  therobotman | 03/22/07
IMHO -UAC is more annoying on Vista  8string | 03/22/07
UAC is not a security feature  SecurityGeek_z | 03/23/07
Vista is way too intrusive......  WakkoWarner | 03/26/07
re UAC  w3nd13 | 03/26/07
No, haven't tried it, but sounds like I should  georgeou | 03/27/07
you're WRONG!  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
you're stupid  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
the true is that Windows Vista's UAC is better than Mac and Linux  qmlscycrajg | 03/28/07
George is passing along his Ballmer bucks to you, huh  sergiovf@... | 03/29/07
George, give'em WINBLOWS or give'em BSOD  sergiovf@... | 03/29/07
Poll - Did you disable UAC  al@... | 03/30/07
Security Theatre  khurt@... | 03/31/07
Yes they should...  jett925@... | 04/03/07
RE: Should Apple be making fun of Vista UAC? *NEW*  a1931582 | 11/22/09

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