Agree but...
Wingsbr | 04/27/07
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That is the point, with today's hardware, the average user will feel the
DonnieBoy | 04/30/07
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where are the test files?
D. T. Schmitz | 04/27/07
|

I agree...
bportlock | 04/27/07
|
 
Typical for business use
jshaw4343 | 04/27/07
|
  
This might interest you
bportlock | 04/27/07
|
   
I completely concur with his statements...
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
    
Then I guess my execel are not HUGE!
BroGnorik | 04/27/07
|
     
Again..
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
     
I am impressed
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
     
That is the worst way to use excel..
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
    
And there you have it
D. T. Schmitz | 04/27/07
|
     
er ah (Rain Man)
D. T. Schmitz | 04/27/07
|
   
30MB is routine
jshaw4343 | 04/27/07
|
    
Even 20-30 megs
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
   
One has to use a file of sufficient size ...
slwerner | 04/27/07
|
    
Finally, some perspective
bobsherrill@... | 04/27/07
|
    
OO.o also provied tools to reduce filesize
shis-ka-bob | 04/29/07
|
    
Dang fast HD, doncha' think?
NoCalDrummer | 04/30/07
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2 seconds is for the 50 MB XLS file
georgeou | 05/01/07
|

Yes please...
lenohere | 04/27/07
|
 
Actually, YOU are the only one whining on here
Scrat | 04/27/07
|
  
Actually...
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|

Just like last year
TripleII | 04/27/07
|
 
Why don't you do your own independent study
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
  
Simply because GEORGE is the blogger...
mdsmedia | 04/27/07
|
   
No, as I said,
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
    
pregnant panda bears???? spaceships??
andrej770 | 04/30/07
|
   
Who is Office Milleage Champ?
i2fun@... | 04/27/07
|
    
Google?
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
     
Pot, Kettle - Black!!!
I am Gorby | 04/29/07
|
   
Fine to question it, but you need to provide your own numbers
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
    
Good point
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|
     
Yup, that's all it says
georgeou | 04/30/07
|
  
Ok?
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
   
Well
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
    
It wouldn't change your view
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
     
Well, if nothing else...
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
     
No write up of George's methods
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
  
Sorry for Delay
TripleII | 04/28/07
|
   
ok, so you work at or are
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|

They're the same ones I always used, but I haven't converted them yet
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
???
D. T. Schmitz | 04/27/07
|
  
I did convert them
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
   
Are you...
D. T. Schmitz | 04/28/07
|
    
Read the blog, I clearly stated that I ran ODS and XLSX
georgeou | 04/28/07
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Nice article George
Scrat | 04/27/07
|

But.....
lenohere | 04/27/07
|
 
Ouch!, get over yourself first
Scrat | 04/27/07
|
 
What are you babbling about...
fr0thy2. | 04/27/07
|

Don't think Calc uses Java
georgeou | 04/27/07
|

Also, you'll note that OO.o has improved a lot since last year
georgeou | 04/27/07
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Lovely, George, but what about filesize
mdsmedia | 04/27/07
|

Oh yeah big advantage here....
lenohere | 04/27/07
|
 
George has "form" on this issue
bportlock | 04/27/07
|
  
I'm not talking about file size here..
lenohere | 04/27/07
|
   
LInux and Office
bportlock | 04/27/07
|
   
Exactly my point
mdsmedia | 04/27/07
|
   
well...
fencer | 04/27/07
|
  
Really?
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
   
I suggest YOU learn to read
bportlock | 04/27/07
|
 
Wine Is Not an Emulator
NetArch. | 04/27/07
|
  
RE: Wine Is Not an Emulator
bmonster | 04/27/07
|
 
I'll try to run some crossover tests
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
  
A Suggestion
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 04/27/07
|
   
They can't open each other's formats yet
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
    
Did you read
pmshah@... | 04/27/07
|
     
ODF is already a standard. Now they're trying to poison OOXML.
georgeou | 04/28/07
|

File sizes are normally the same
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
OO needs improvement here
pjotr123 | 04/27/07
|

Actually...
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
 
Reparation speed is essential
pjotr123 | 04/27/07
|

They've gotten much better
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
BXML
shis-ka-bob | 04/29/07
|
Hot dogs and pie.
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|

Beer and Wine
jacarter3 | 04/27/07
|
 
Then you do it. Enough of your talk.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
  
Again with the belligerence...
jacarter3 | 04/27/07
|

Why does it matter?
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
 
If you don't know, then it's too late to try
jacarter3 | 04/27/07
|
  
I can understand the concern?
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|
   
What?
jacarter3 | 04/27/07
|
    
We hear you.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
     
On another planet now?
jacarter3 | 04/27/07
|
     
What is your problem?
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
   
compare to
merc2dogs` | 11/13/07
|

Absolutely...
techboy_z | 04/27/07
|

Maybe someone should do this
glocks out | 04/27/07
|

So then do it...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/07
|
 
Why should I?
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
  
You claim his methods are wrong, prove it.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/28/07
|
  
Actually, no
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|

Well, what do you get already???
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
 
My results.
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
  
That is where you come in.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
   
If you buy or lend me a PC and licensed versions of Windows and Office...
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
    
Ok, I'll do it.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
     
You first.
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
     
No can do.
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
  
Once more, prove his methods are bad.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/28/07
|

I like pie.
dolph0291 | 04/27/07
|

Would you like some cheese with your whine?
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Don't get all snarky now.
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
  
Fact check
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
   
Further "FACTS"?
shawkins | 04/27/07
|
    
ECMA and ISO
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
   
That's the only thing you respond to?
Letophoro | 04/27/07
|
    
ODF has way more shortcomings
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
     
Shedding Light
D. T. Schmitz | 04/29/07
|
     
If it's a done deal, why resort to gutter behavior and poison OOXML?
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
     
Also, "you" doesn?t refer to you personally.
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
     
Feather in Your Cap
D. T. Schmitz | 04/29/07
|
     
Let's look at the facts from the link you posted
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
     
Shortcomings of OOXML far more egregious
Letophoro | 04/30/07
|
     
ODF Can Handle Anything MSOffice Throws At It
D. T. Schmitz | 04/30/07
|
 
Microsoft's stance?
jasonp@... | 04/30/07
|
Office diet of OS supplement?
martin23 | 04/27/07
|

Actually you have it reversed
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Missing years
martin23 | 04/29/07
|
  
Cite the version of MS Office that was EVER slow to load
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
So time is money? er speed?
xstep | 04/27/07
|
Pointless comparision
pa2004 | 04/27/07
|

Maybe so but...
jojoleb@... | 04/27/07
|
 
I keep hearing that
TripleII | 04/27/07
|
  
PDF
mKind | 04/27/07
|
  
Yes, But...
jojoleb@... | 05/25/07
|

Half backed response
Bruizer | 04/27/07
|
 
File opening times
ejb78923 | 04/27/07
|
  
File open times are meaningless to me
Bruizer | 04/27/07
|

MS zealots
AJ-Ubuntu-User | 04/27/07
|

It is pointless
TripleII | 04/27/07
|
 
I don't think anyone cares how you get your work done.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
  
What can I report?
TripleII | 04/27/07
|
   
I can't speak for anyone else.
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
Around the Mulberry bush we go
dragosani | 04/27/07
|

Slow or fast - never mind!
aldisp@... | 05/08/07
|
Performance is important but not the whole story
gigglypuff | 04/27/07
|

Couldn't say it much better
sullivanjc | 04/27/07
|

re
dwest_z | 04/27/07
|

If you don't like my accuracy, post your own numbers
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Simply wow
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
  
Nothing "unprofessional" about calling a cheap shot a cheap shot.
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
   
You don't have to use my advice
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
    
Wow you sure know how to dish it out
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
     
Like I said
dragosani | 04/30/07
|
  
No, you are more like a
xuniL_z | 04/30/07
|
   
Good try
dragosani | 04/30/07
|

Best point yet!
slwerner | 04/27/07
|
 
Those companies died because they refused to change from DOS
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
  
You are mistaken
pmshah@... | 04/27/07
|
   
I remember well
hoozafrizitz | 04/27/07
|
    
Wordperfect was crashing a lot in 1999 too
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
     
Buggy software
martin23 | 04/29/07
|
     
Does antitrust ring a bell?
D. T. Schmitz | 04/29/07
|
   
Stop dreaming
georgeou | 04/28/07
|

Why $ 250/- or $ 300/-
pmshah@... | 04/27/07
|
 
Everyone qualifies for OEM
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
I voted thumbs down ?
not of this world | 04/27/07
|

Assimilation.. even.
xstep | 04/27/07
|
 
Did you?
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
You get what you pay for ...
mwagner@... | 04/27/07
|

Foolish
putt1ck | 04/27/07
|

Re: You get what you pay for ...
none none | 04/27/07
|

Free is a good price though
nucrash | 04/27/07
|
 
Ummm support...
fr0thy2. | 04/27/07
|
  
OOo does have a good mailing list
nucrash | 04/27/07
|

Per Use Costs of the 2?
i2fun@... | 04/27/07
|
Time for using multiple applications
jdubow@... | 04/27/07
|
In response to
BroGnorik | 04/27/07
|
As I said
BroGnorik | 04/27/07
|
I write quite a lot
olddoglearningnewtricks | 04/27/07
|
You forgot to factor in all of the other junk you need for MS Office 07
critic-at-arms | 04/27/07
|

And that matters how?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/27/07
|
 
Face it
dragosani | 04/27/07
|

Patch upon patch?
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|
Nice analysis, George.
Grayson Peddie | 04/27/07
|

The US Navy is
NetArch. | 04/27/07
|

I'm not aware of any .NET usage
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Oh, okay. Well I do believe that Office uses COM
Grayson Peddie | 04/27/07
|
  
Let me check on the ribbon
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
bottom line, though:
hafizullah@... | 04/27/07
|
I'm in the same boat..
ju1ce | 04/27/07
|

IE7 is very nice though compared to FF2
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Hardly comparable
boxmonkey | 04/28/07
|
  
The bug count is determined by third parties
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
 
IE7 is very nice depending on who you talk to?
ju1ce | 04/29/07
|
Time VS Costs
pauliw25 | 04/27/07
|
Cross-Platform Problem
ttsay | 04/27/07
|
I dunno George...
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|

Does your Linux Box reall matter?
GuidingLight | 04/27/07
|
 
Funny
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
 
You know what?
Mitch 74 | 04/27/07
|
 
Well, My Linux Box...
bobn9lvu@... | 04/27/07
|
  
Welll, my Windows box....
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
   
Proud of you...
hoozafrizitz | 04/27/07
|
    
It's not that hard.
xuniL_z | 04/28/07
|
 
The Linux box will matter more and more
jdubow@... | 04/27/07
|
 
Yes it does
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|

Think you missed a decimal in your Alias
fr0thy2. | 04/27/07
|
 
If that
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|

I dunno Mad Mac, pls. post links
xuniL_z | 04/27/07
|
 
Sorry but I am not posting
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|
  
THEn Post This much.
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
   
Some of the files I use
Linux User 147560 | 04/30/07
|
 
LOL
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
  
Well well.
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|

Post some detailed numbers, not smoke and mirrors
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Sorry I am not a magician...
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|
  
Oh yeah forgot
Linux User 147560 | 04/27/07
|
   
OH YEAh, well well
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
  
No Smoke No Mirrors
tracy anne | 04/27/07
|
   
drag and drop
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
  
Haha that's funny
nizuse | 04/28/07
|
   
No, he admited George was absolutely correct
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
    
No that is what you interpret...
Linux User 147560 | 04/30/07
|
Try the tests with security running
aprayzr1 | 04/27/07
|
Oh come now...
nucrash | 04/27/07
|

dragosani | 04/27/07
|
 
WOW!! 8)
bobn9lvu@... | 04/27/07
|
 
Just showing how Media Language can be used
nucrash | 04/27/07
|
  
Good Luck!
dragosani | 04/27/07
|

Test was using OpenOffice 2.2, NOT 2.1....
Deanbar | 04/27/07
|
 
That is the real key
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
 
As I mentioned, OO.o 2.2 has gotten a lot faster
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
george's O. vsO.O.
razparker | 04/27/07
|
What I want to see
Freebird54 | 04/27/07
|

Again, some cheese with your whine
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
 
Actually...
ju1ce | 04/29/07
|
  
You test extremes to get accurate measurements
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
Looks Like Office To Me
jabailo1 | 04/27/07
|

Where have you been?
nucrash | 04/27/07
|
 
Microsoft have been lowering the prices......
Deanbar | 04/27/07
|
 
Has been lowering
nucrash | 04/27/07
|
  
Works for me
Deanbar | 04/27/07
|

You have *GOT* to be kidding!
KTLA | 04/27/07
|
 
Good enough for me
Deanbar | 04/27/07
|
It appears that you used VISTA for both suites.
Update victim | 04/27/07
|

You can't be serious
georgeou | 04/27/07
|
Poor Reporting...
Narg | 04/27/07
|
File size
DurbanDon | 04/27/07
|

Rhetorical Question?
dragosani | 04/27/07
|
 
On an Apple (Mac OSX 10.4.9
nomorems | 04/27/07
|
Yea, but OpenOffice is FREE
3dtodd | 04/27/07
|
OO=free
wizardb@... | 04/27/07
|
The pig didn't fly.
gotitright | 04/27/07
|
Having downloaded OO.o and buying Office 2007 myself...
HypnoToad72 | 04/27/07
|
I was just woindering
pmshah@... | 04/27/07
|
Message has been deleted.
nomorems | 04/27/07
|
OOo 2.2 vs MSO 2007
Manzoni | 04/28/07
|
Insane
Tim Patterson | 04/28/07
|

Those aren't secret APIs
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
EIOffice outperforms Office 2003 and 2007
Carl_Liu | 04/28/07
|
I us OO not MS Products
Uralbas | 04/28/07
|
Apples and Oranges
Rick_Jelliffe | 04/28/07
|
How to conduct meaningless tests.
gotitright | 04/28/07
|
Is this test meaningful?
D. T. Schmitz | 04/28/07
|

Uh, you did see that these are both XML formats right?
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
 
Like I suggested at the top
D. T. Schmitz | 04/28/07
|
  
I told you, they're in last year's series, one hyperlink away
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
For roughly the same price..
pierrejvr | 04/28/07
|

There's a point of diminishing returns for hardware
georgeou | 04/28/07
|
Why I switched WP-office from MS-office
AldoWatts | 04/28/07
|
How about functionality
drpadiyar | 04/28/07
|
Question for you......
linux for me | 04/28/07
|

Because it's BLOAT
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
 
Well..I disagree...
linux for me | 04/29/07
|
  
Had the numbers been reversed, you'd be screaming how bloated MS is
georgeou | 04/29/07
|
   
You still don't get it.
linux for me | 04/30/07
|

Protected environment?
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|
That's it? Just a speed comparison?
CobraA1 | 04/28/07
|

Not a bit slow
gotitright | 04/28/07
|
 
hmm
Badgered | 05/01/07
|
And?
TheSchmett | 04/28/07
|
An Objective Iinpartial Observer/Mike Cox
D. T. Schmitz | 04/29/07
|

I heard that he is so engrossed
xuniL_z | 04/29/07
|
What a completely irrelevant review
zaine_ridling | 04/29/07
|
You mean the OO quickstarter?
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|

I disabled OO.o quickstarts
georgeou | 04/30/07
|
 
Quickstart Cheats!?
shis-ka-bob | 05/02/07
|
Bullseye.
FatherJ | 04/30/07
|
This was not a legitimate "shootout"
TechExec2 | 04/30/07
|
Biased Story; Unethical on journalistic and profesional IT levels
mighetto | 04/30/07
|

Don't bet anything you can't afford to lose
georgeou | 04/30/07
|
 
No
D. T. Schmitz | 04/30/07
|

that was brief?
Badgered | 05/01/07
|
How complete is the application?
e24ohm | 04/30/07
|
Lies, damn lies, and statistics
cls@... | 04/30/07
|
That's dishonest about OOXML
tboerger@... | 04/30/07
|
Meaningless Test Results Aside...
D. T. Schmitz | 04/30/07
|
Testing on MS OS, MS Benchmark tool this is only good to MS suite
FFB | 04/30/07
|

What I intend to do
georgeou | 05/01/07
|
Open Office opens .rtf files MUCH faster than does MS Office
thelemite | 05/01/07
|
Why not run the tests from a Mac?
thelemite | 05/01/07
|
Excel can't handle my formula
NoCalDrummer | 05/01/07
|

Yeh Definally. Yeh
D. T. Schmitz | 05/01/07
|
REAL WORLD IT for George means BUY ONLY Microsoft Warez!!!!!
nomorems | 05/04/07
|
Use common sense
DaemoenYB | 06/22/07
|
Now do the same measures on Linux...
ggravier | 07/18/07
|

Who cares about Linux
Raid6 | 09/21/07
|
Microsoft Office is always best
Ole Man | 11/24/07
|
test tools
Soonlar | 12/10/07
|

I included the link for Process Explorer
georgeou | 12/21/07
|
LOTUS.WK1 anyone?
Jymbul | 05/27/08
|
RE: MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout
WATKINS12@... | 06/13/08
|
RE: MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout
jochen@... | 07/24/08
|
RE: MS Office 2007 versus Open Office 2.2 shootout
Stuarte | 02/26/09
|