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June 11th, 2007

Microsoft repels Google antitrust complaints

Posted by George Ou @ 3:35 am

Categories: Desktop, Microsoft, Security, Vista

Tags: Desktop, Google Inc., Antitrust, New York Times Co., Microsoft Corp., George Ou

The New York Times has a story about Microsoft fighting off Google’s antitrust complaints against Windows Search built in to Vista.

“Google complained to federal and state prosecutors that consumers who try to use its search tool for computer hard drives on Vista were frustrated because Vista has a competing desktop search program that cannot be turned off. When the Google and Vista search programs are run simultaneously on a computer, their indexing programs slow the operating system considerably, Google contended. As a result, Google said that Vista violated Microsoft’s 2002 antitrust settlement, which prohibits Microsoft from designing operating systems that limit the choices of consumers.”

I’m not sure if this can be compared to the antitrust case against Microsoft in the late 90s (See how Microsoft botched the antitrust case in the late 90s).  Back then you had a case of Microsoft threatening Compaq computers with a termination of their Windows license agreement if they dared feature the Netscape browser and not Microsoft Internet Explorer.  In this particular case, the mere existence of a competing search engine from Microsoft doesn’t necessarily prove antitrust violations unless someone’s arm was being twisted to not feature Google Desktop or risk losing their right to bundle Windows.  I would venture to guess that it’s currently unlikely that Microsoft would be so bold and reckless as it was in the late 90s with all the legal troubles that remain to be settled.

Furthermore, it is quite trivial to shut down the Windows Search Service.  In fact we don’t even need the user to manually do this, there’s no reason the Google desktop installer can programmatically shut down and disable the Windows Search service (with the user’s permission UAC elevation) if it wants exclusive ownership of search on the desktop.  But the newest Windows Search Service seems to be performing fairly well and I’ve been using it for the last 5 months without problems and this is coming from someone who exclusively uses Google for web searches.  Google has also had some security problems with the desktop search product not to mention some controversial features that took internal company data and sent it out to Internet Servers.  Google’s response was to offer an enterprise product for purchase that would globally manage those features which angered some enterprise IT departments.

One other major factor is that Microsoft - unlike the late 90s - is actively lobbying the Government.  According to the same New York Times story:

For its part, Microsoft, which spent more than $55 million on lobbying activities in Washington from 2000 to 2006 and substantially more on lawyers, has become a more effective lobbying organization.

This is a hard lesson learned from the late 90s when Bill Gates personally hated politics and avoided Government while Microsoft’s opponents lobbied hard in Washington.  Microsoft stayed home while the Justice Department under Bill Clinton started its antitrust investigation of Microsoft and that oversight (along with its arrogance and refusal to settle) nearly caused Microsoft to be split in two.  I’ll have to leave it up to you to decide if this latest antitrust complaint from Google has merit or if Microsoft has better lobbyists.  All I know is that Google is no stranger to Washington politics.

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It's one thing to disagree with George, but it's another to add your expletives. When you're that angry, you can't always think clearly. George is hardly a shill. His article was not about how wonderf... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Aragorn7 Posted on: 06/26/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
As much as I want to bash Microsoft  nucrash | 06/11/07
I agree.  donnellb | 06/11/07
Well, when Google's CEO is on Apple's Board,  nucrash | 06/11/07
Remember, monopoly lasw ONLY applie if you have a monopoly.  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Anti-Competitive Behavior is such  nucrash | 06/11/07
Apple is less than 5% of OS sales, and the monopoly laws do not apply  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
So....  nucrash | 06/11/07
re: Remember, monopoly lasw ONLY applie  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
Google & OEM  rye_guy | 06/13/07
I agree although the one issue stands...  ju1ce | 06/11/07
Something can be worked out...  nucrash | 06/11/07
No reason to foot any bills, MS just needs to NOT leverage the monopoly to  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Sometimes you need a business mind  nucrash | 06/11/07
I 100% agree, that as long as OEMs can pick the default, with not fear of  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Consider this...  ju1ce | 06/11/07
Not a beginning  nucrash | 06/11/07
Clutter is in the eye of the beholder...  ju1ce | 06/11/07
I won't argue that personal opinion differs  nucrash | 06/11/07
Google is the monopoly in search.  osreinstall | 06/12/07
OEM Crapware  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
Why is is so hard for MS to just compete on the merits??? They were  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Well according to all the microsofties...  ju1ce | 06/11/07
I think the OEMs should be held accountable.  nucrash | 06/11/07
OEMs are one thing, but, there is also retail sales. There jiust is not  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
So what are you going to use to download a new web browser?  nucrash | 06/11/07
Accountable for what?  ju1ce | 06/11/07
I like the pinch point of the OEM  nucrash | 06/11/07
More capable operating system.  Anton Philidor | 06/11/07
Depends on your opinion  nucrash | 06/11/07
I have XMPlay myself.  Anton Philidor | 06/11/07
Look at Direct X  nucrash | 06/11/07
But it's NOT just that...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/11/07
There was a time when Microsoft wasn't the majority  nucrash | 06/11/07
Here are some "merits" for you:  GuidingLight | 06/11/07
One more time for those that are a little SLOW Apple does NOT have  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
They don't?  nucrash | 06/11/07
Every company in the world has a monopoly, if you only consider the market  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
By definition of the word, you do  nucrash | 06/11/07
You can play word games, but it has to be an identifiable market that is  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Well that is one way to claim victory  nucrash | 06/11/07
Well, a seven judge panel did a very nice job of defining what a monopoly  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Sorry...  jasonp@... | 06/11/07
I can still build my own PC  nucrash | 06/11/07
re: One more time for those that are a little SLOW  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
And, if MS search is better than Google, they have nothing to worry about,  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
There you go again...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
Another paid MS shill?  thungurknifur | 06/13/07
Over the Top Reply  Aragorn7 | 06/26/07
Your post have no merits.  xuniL_z | 06/11/07
Well, if MS was ONLY interested in giving customers "usefull features",  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
You grammar have no merits.  nucrash | 06/11/07
Why is it so hard for you...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
Nastier than recounted here.  Anton Philidor | 06/11/07
Yeah...  jasonp@... | 06/11/07
I love how it's always...  ju1ce | 06/11/07
Hence I am migrating to Mac  nucrash | 06/11/07
Microsoft had consent decrees...  Anton Philidor | 06/11/07
microsoft gave GWB campaing millions  stevey_d | 06/11/07
Crying Wolf  TripleII | 06/11/07
Ok, if it is SOOO easy, and MS search SOOO good, then make Google the  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
That just doesn't make sense  TripleII | 06/11/07
straw man argument  stevey_d | 06/11/07
MSN Search?  TripleII | 06/11/07
Just because anyone writes a search engine, MS is under no obligation to  georgeou | 06/11/07
when user is choosing the country and so on why not let them choose search?  stevey_d | 06/11/07
and google isn't "anyone". It's the most popular search portal.  stevey_d | 06/11/07
A little different picture.  gotitright | 06/11/07
Hard to tell  nucrash | 06/11/07
Bill Clinton wasn't a good president??? compared to who exactly  stevey_d | 06/11/07
OT: Clinton Presidency  nucrash | 06/11/07
did little to thwart terrorists?  stevey_d | 06/12/07
Sorry, when I meant little...  nucrash | 06/12/07
re: Bill Clinton wasn't a good president???  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
I have to disagree ;  mhenriday | 06/11/07
Again, it's easy to shut off that service  georgeou | 06/11/07
sure but it's still unfair leverage  stevey_d | 06/11/07
Gosh George, if it is NO advantage, why not make Google the default then,  DonnieBoy | 06/11/07
Because users are sheep  nucrash | 06/11/07
When Google builds me a usable OS, they can make anything default they want  georgeou | 06/11/07
The problem with that is that...  nucrash | 06/11/07
re: The problem with that is that...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/12/07
Let's clear this up.  nucrash | 06/12/07
Funny thing is, all these "desktopless" options stink  georgeou | 06/12/07
Question...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/11/07
Because OEMs do not want the customer's privacy violated.  osreinstall | 06/12/07
All antitrust laws must die [nt]  Omch'Ar | 06/11/07
Umm.. NO  nucrash | 06/11/07
Google vs. MS on Desktop Search  rye_guy | 06/13/07

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