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June 18th, 2007

How to fully de-gunk a PC of Crapware

Posted by George Ou @ 5:48 am

Categories: Browsers, Desktop, Microsoft, Security, Vista

Tags: Software, PC, Microsoft Windows, Computer, George Ou

Autoruns, the ultimate startup cleaner

[Second UPDATE 6/22/2007 - It appears that some people may be having problems even with legitimate software.  After checking with master programmer and Technical Fellow Mark Russinovich of Microsoft (formerly SysInternals), it appears that some people might be running device drivers that haven't gone through WHQL (Windows Hardware Quality Laboratories) which meant that Autoruns will not hide it from the user.  If those unsigned drivers get disabled by the user, Windows may get a BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death) or have certain devices like keyboards fail on startup.  Ideally users should never trust unsigned drivers but it's an unfortunate reality that we have to deal with sometimes.  So in the event that you disable everything unsigned (unauthorized) by Microsoft and you have the misfortune of not being able to boot Windows, you will need to go in to Windows using the F8 during startup with either the "Last Known Good" or safe mode.  Last known good should put your computer back the way it's suppose to be but if that fails, you'll need to go in with safe mode and re-enable everything in the "Drivers" tab of Autoruns.  If you want to play it safe, you can leave everything in the "Drivers" tab enabled but ideally you shouldn't need anything checked that isn't authorized and signed by Microsoft.  Russinovich also did a webcast last year where he uses a combination of Autoruns and Process Explorer for "Advanced Malware cleaning" and I highly recommend it.]

[UPDATE 2:00PM - A few people are complaining that Autoruns broke some device drivers such as the Keyboard or caused BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death). This should never happen with a healthy PC but in the event you find yourself locked out of Windows due to one of these problems, tap the F8 key as soon as Windows starts booting up and use the "Last Known Good" boot option. That will undo the registry changes made by Autoruns and put your computer in the state it was previously in. If you are uncomfortable with this recovery procedure or you're not sure how to execute it, stop reading at this point and do not attempt this procedure because you won't be able to repair your computer if anything bad happens.

Now any properly designed device driver should never rely on anything that Autoruns can disable and they should never stop functioning (especially the Keyboard) just because Autoruns disabled the extra startups. If you find some devices need some of the startup settings, Autoruns will allow you to enable individual components. If your computer crashes because you stripped out all of the unofficial non-signed Microsoft startup entries, that could be an indicator of a deeper problem with your computer and could be a sign of malicious tampering. If a piece of Malware modifies a legitimate file to piggy back on it, that will invalidate the Microsoft digital signature and Autoruns will treat it as an unofficial un-signed entry. Then by disabling that tampered entry, Windows may crash on startup. If you find that using Autoruns to disable all non-signed Microsoft entries causes your computer to crash, it might be a good time to do a wipe and reload of Windows since there is possibility of Malicious tampering.]

Autoruns is a startup cleaner utility that is similar to the MSCONFIG utility but it is far more comprehensive and accurate. MSCONFIG only shows you startup and services and it doesn’t check digital signatures which means anything can hide from it. With Autoruns, nothing can hide and there’s no need to use MSCONFIG at all.

After you have downloaded Autoruns from the official Microsoft website, you’ll need to unzip it. You do not need to install anything, just extract the content anywhere on your computer. Windows XP and Vista have built-in ZIP support you can just right-click on the file and hit extract. Windows 2000 users will need to download a FREE utility like IZArc which also comes in handy for Windows XP or Vista because it supports a wide range of compressed files. Once extract the files to a folder, simply double click on the file named autoruns.exe. Vista users will have to elevate UAC privileges when running this application.

Once opened, you’ll see the following application and you’ll need to enable “Verify Code Signatures” and “Hide Signed Microsoft Entries”. DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP!

After checking these two items, hit the F5 key to refresh the scan.

The beauty of Autoruns is that it can verify the authenticity of everything being loaded in to Windows through rigorous cryptographic signatures so that it can’t be fooled by registry entries masquerading as something legitimate and it will recognize files that have been tampered with. By hiding all of the verified Microsoft entries, we can single out every piece of software that was added to our computer that isn’t officially from Microsoft. Autoruns is effectively our spotlight that highlights all the potential Crapware on your computer and it makes it easy for us to disable anything we don’t want.

Take the following screenshot for example.

This is a list of stuff that popped up which wasn’t signed as Microsoft code. Some of it may have been legitimate Microsoft code but I don’t need any of this stuff to make Windows run. Even the Adobe stuff is unnecessary and my Acrobat reader works fine without all this extra stuff. We can safely uncheck all of these entries and everything will work just fine. In the unlikely event that any of this stuff was actually needed for a critical application, we can always come back and re-enable certain parts bit by bit. These changes are non-destructive and there are no risky registry changes that need to be made.

[Update 6/22/2007 - In case anyone misunderstands what I mean by "non-destructive" changes, that means you can UNDO the changes by re-checking the items you disabled.  Destructive changes to a computer are those that can't be undone.  That does not mean making changes with Autoruns will never cause any issues; it just means you can undo the changes if you boot up Windows in Safe mode.  To be safe, you can leave everything in the "Drivers" tab enabled just in case if you have drivers that weren't WHQL (Windows Hardware Qualification Labs) that were not hidden.  Once again I'll remind the reader that if you do not understand what I'm talking about here, DO NOT use Autoruns.  You need to know how to troubleshoot a computer in case anything goes wrong and your computer doesn't boot up.]

Whenever I’m troubleshooting a computer, I’ll disable everything in that list and chances are a lot of strange issues will disappear. I generally like to keep everything unchecked. You might want to leave the antivirus stuff checked but I generally consider that one of the worst forms of Crapware though it may be a necessary evil for most people especially prior to Windows Vista.

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One thing worth noting  nmh | 06/18/07
Thanks  georgeou | 06/18/07
APPLE QUICKTIME...the MOST ANNOYING CRAPWARE  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 06/18/07
Apple Troll keeps on his topic - NT  raycote | 06/18/07
Funny part is . . .  JLHenry | 06/18/07
Oh but it is...  TunerGeek | 06/19/07
Apple iTime *IS* Crapware  bubba555 | 06/19/07
It does absolutely nothing to my machine  labarker | 06/19/07
COmpletely Remove QuickTime (and Real Player)  paulp575#dog-walker | 06/19/07
Uh, Dude?  JLHenry | 06/21/07
Office....  top100developers | 12/27/07
...part of it  Chiatzu | 06/21/07
And then some...  top100developers | 12/27/07
Reality check  top100developers | 12/27/07
Don't you mean LEOPARD?  Tech-tock | 12/27/07
Use X-Lite Mega pack to avoid installing QT and iTunes  georgeou | 06/18/07
What if a PC user own an iPod and soon an iPhone?  Laff | 06/18/07
That's one thing that keeps me away from iPods  georgeou | 06/18/07
Yeah but I imagine the maker of said player has  Laff | 06/18/07
ho boy  rtk | 06/19/07
For Appe maybe....:P  Laff | 06/19/07
And that's why I don't have an iPod  fr0thy2. | 06/19/07
except there aren't  plawler | 06/19/07
O RLY  GeoNorth | 06/20/07
You obviously DON'Thave a teenage Daughter . . .  JLHenry | 06/21/07
If you can't say no to your daughter, you have deeper issues  georgeou | 06/21/07
Be the parent!  swimmersmom | 06/22/07
here here, I here that!  janesman2007 | 06/22/07
Sony was another one...  fr0thy2. | 06/19/07
Yeah. They don't choose iPod over other MP3 players  labarker | 06/19/07
It's the marketing (has to be, because they don't look good)  macoafi | 06/20/07
Re: What if a PC user...  christopherborne@... | 06/20/07
What if a PC user own an iPod and soon an iPhone?  aussieblnd@... | 06/20/07
Non- ITunes alternatives for iPod  Virt | 06/21/07
A Link would be nice  nucrash | 06/18/07
Try this link  georgeou | 06/18/07
AMEN!  fr0thy2. | 06/19/07
You mean K-Lite?......  JCitizen | 06/19/07
It's there  georgeou | 06/19/07
You may also need QTAlternative for QuickTime  georgeou | 06/19/07
Thanks again George!  JCitizen | 06/29/07
X-Lite or K-Lite?  communications@... | 06/22/07
Heh  Win3.1 | 06/18/07
Quicktime, total junk!!!  Violetw | 06/19/07
But sometimes needed?  Oreamnos_americanus | 06/19/07
But sometimes needed?  aussieblnd@... | 06/20/07
I had a PC user show me why he prefers Quicktime  labarker | 06/19/07
Most annoying crapware?  murdock@... | 06/19/07
'Tis for me...  GeoNorth | 06/20/07
'Tis for me...  aussieblnd@... | 06/20/07
Use MPlayer  macoafi | 06/20/07
Quick Time Alternative  interested_amateur@... | 06/21/07
Finally . . . defeated it.  brian ansorge | 06/21/07
other useful tools  mscir@... | 06/18/07
Thank you!  kcredden2 | 06/18/07
TCP Optimizer is only needed if you use DSL with PPPoE  georgeou | 06/18/07
Wouldn't a better headline for this story be...  Henry Miller | 06/18/07
No crapware here...  itpro_z | 06/18/07
I built my own Vista machine but after some time, there is a little crapwar  georgeou | 06/18/07
Neither did mine!!!  Laff | 06/18/07
ICrap  itpro_z | 06/18/07
With the possible exception of a MS Office test suite  Laff | 06/19/07
The ultimate crapware  itpro_z | 06/19/07
The ultimate crapware  aussieblnd@... | 06/20/07
Probably card game program...  JCitizen | 06/19/07
Good article.  BillyG_n_SC | 06/18/07
I found it when I needed BZ2 compatibility  georgeou | 06/18/07
"Scan . . . delete . . . check . . .  brian ansorge | 06/21/07
Most Crapware is bundled with useful tools  nucrash | 06/18/07
Lost?  James T. Kirk | 06/18/07
Bad drive was formatted  nucrash | 06/18/07
FaST isn't a backup tool  MGP2 | 06/18/07
Well, this is what I was trying to accomplish  nucrash | 06/18/07
I think I found a fix for my Problem  nucrash | 06/18/07
Have you tried this?  James T. Kirk | 06/18/07
Fortunately I found another cure  nucrash | 06/18/07
Good point on wipe and reload  georgeou | 06/18/07
Still in the middle of this repair  nucrash | 06/18/07
Ok, good suggestions, all... but!  Raymond Danner | 06/19/07
MS Office has a clean uninstaller  georgeou | 06/19/07
Wipe and reload  12AX7 | 06/19/07
Windows may be unsecure, but it's not that unsecure...  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 06/19/07
Re: Wipe and reload  gcsmit@... | 06/19/07
Slipstreaming is another good option...  JohnBoyTheGreat | 07/13/07
Most Crapware is bundled with useful tools  aussieblnd@... | 06/20/07
These changes are non-destructive...  TTGIT Guy | 06/18/07
You didn't lose Windows  nucrash | 06/18/07
You didn't lose Windows  TTGIT Guy | 06/18/07
Did you read the part about bloated drivers?  nucrash | 06/18/07
Your machine wasn't b0rked  Michael Kelly | 06/18/07
Yes he did have a b0rked machine  georgeou | 06/18/07
I have never seen Autoruns or CCleaner destroy video settings  georgeou | 06/18/07
Wooo!  Win3.1 | 06/18/07
Like I said, not normally for ATI or NVIDIA or Intel  georgeou | 06/18/07
Lost a lot of stuff  gardenladyk | 06/21/07
Please recheck everything in the "Drivers" tab  georgeou | 06/22/07
It also assumes a degree of knowledge about your machine.  Langlier | 06/18/07
I have never seen this technique kill video drivers, EVER  georgeou | 06/18/07
No offense intended George, but...  JohnBoyTheGreat | 07/13/07
Adds Cost to Computer  Harry Bardal | 06/18/07
A lesson I learned a long time ago  frgough | 06/18/07
While I generally agree...  NonZealot | 06/18/07
Depends on the release date  nucrash | 06/18/07
Who told you that Apple was first ...  ShadeTree | 06/18/07
Apple computers are PCs too  macoafi | 06/20/07
indentation's not allowed in comments  macoafi | 06/20/07
oh wait  macoafi | 06/20/07
Didn't Mention Apple  Harry Bardal | 06/18/07
Apple is most commonly named  nucrash | 06/18/07
Like mine?  Cardinal_Bill | 06/18/07
Re: Didn't Mention Apple  brble | 06/18/07
Status Quo Thinking  Harry Bardal | 06/18/07
Declarations of the Obvious  brble | 06/18/07
Oh, and let's talk choice  brble | 06/18/07
Time is money!!  Patanjali | 06/18/07
Apple would not qualify as an alternative platform ....  ShadeTree | 06/18/07
Depends of what the meaning of "is" is...or in this case  Laff | 06/18/07
In the context of this discussion it is not!  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
you are contradicting your own posts  doh123 | 06/18/07
Well everything comes with a price.....  Laff | 06/18/07
Adds no real cost to the computer  GuidingLight | 06/18/07
I disagree  nucrash | 06/18/07
Crapware lowers the cost through subsidies  georgeou | 06/18/07
Revenue s Cost  Harry Bardal | 06/18/07
Don't put words in my mouth  georgeou | 06/18/07
Hmm...  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 06/19/07
Er, slight inaccuracy George  pomru | 06/18/07
Well they use to charge more for the Linux version  georgeou | 06/18/07
Nope - Windows Basic  pomru | 06/18/07
Don't give in so easy.  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
I can vouch for that  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 06/19/07
Glossing over the facts!  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Dell Ubuntu Hardware vs. Dell Vista Hardware  btljooz | 06/19/07
Linux Broadband Support  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 06/19/07
About those issues:  pomru | 06/19/07
Then you're not doing a fair comparison  georgeou | 06/19/07
As I just replied to someone else...  pomru | 06/19/07
Intel embedded graphics is about $3 extra cost  georgeou | 06/19/07
Where do you get that?  macoafi | 06/20/07
Desktop Linux takes longer to boot on the same hardware  georgeou | 06/20/07
Whether you need that fancy hardware or not ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
I did say...  pomru | 06/19/07
Don't you think that double the RAM and the ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Value of hardware?  pomru | 06/19/07
Once again distorting the facts.  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Enough with the distortions  georgeou | 06/19/07
I ran the configurator  chemist109 | 06/20/07
Apparently, Dell has stopped bundling triaware for the most part  georgeou | 06/21/07
You should "know" better then to say  ShadeTree | 06/18/07
Knowing how to get it off...  rmazzeo | 06/19/07
Keyboard drivers and fierce Norton  S.Howard-SarinZDNet Moderator | 06/18/07
You are being punished  Linux User 147560 | 06/18/07
But...  mustang_z | 06/19/07
Wow, that's one funky keyboard you have!  georgeou | 06/18/07
Maybe his keyboard came with a hardware keylogger...  JCitizen | 06/19/07
That is very possible  georgeou | 06/20/07
Happend to me too. HELP.  pdflemming@... | 06/26/07
Wow, Norton is that fierce eh  georgeou | 06/18/07
Avast!  btljooz | 06/19/07
Have you figured out which specific checkmark is needed?  georgeou | 06/18/07
Keyboard hang--SpySweeper Keyboard filter driver  jonk369 | 06/19/07
Ah ouch, your SpySweeper made some nasty modifications  georgeou | 06/19/07
Mine, also  skatersev | 06/20/07
I'd try uninstalling SpySweeper to see if the problem goes away  georgeou | 06/21/07
Also make sure Spysweeper is fully updated..  JCitizen | 06/29/07
Sony Laptop won't boot  tomtrevathan | 06/21/07
Autoruns gave my Windows XP the runs  shoktai@... | 06/18/07
That may indicate a deeper problem with your PC, could be sign of rootkit  georgeou | 06/18/07
BSOD due to Root kit related items (First? 4 )  jonk369 | 06/19/07
Yes, it sounds like you got rooted  georgeou | 06/19/07
Reinstall from scratch?  kpann@... | 06/22/07
Well, I updated page 2 of the blog  georgeou | 06/22/07
Consider other vendors will adopt the crapware model  owidder | 06/18/07
That's pretty good happy  Fevrin | 06/19/07
Crap Cleaner & Rootkit detection  Old Timer 8080 | 06/18/07
What, like a P3 is old?  macoafi | 06/20/07
I agree; that is why KUBUNTU goes on them  Old Timer 8080 | 06/22/07
Buy a Mac?  Laff | 06/18/07
Do you think that works?  georgeou | 06/18/07
Well...  zkiwi | 06/18/07
And they also get annoyed  James T. Kirk | 06/19/07
See response to Shady One below.....  Laff | 06/19/07
LOL!!  James T. Kirk | 06/20/07
You should know.  ShadeTree | 06/20/07
And then there is the Apple users that get upset when ....  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Do you wish to stray from the topic and go from a point  Laff | 06/19/07
Let's see ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Does IBM do PC's anymore?  Laff | 06/19/07
You didn't limit it to PCs.  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
I hate Macs  TunerGeek | 06/19/07
Well first it's factual buying a Mac solves the crapware problem.  Laff | 06/18/07
I'm sure you do a lot of things ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Ouch my feeling!!!!  Laff | 06/19/07
I find it amusing over the past couple months ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
How to avoid a punch...don't be there when it lands"  Laff | 06/19/07
The object of a computer is not to see how many ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Well, yee of short sight...  mustang_z | 06/19/07
Umm...  GeoNorth | 06/20/07
I agree, George!  mustang_z | 06/19/07
Macs are great...I couldn't resist either...  3dtodd | 06/19/07
Why Buy a MAC ??  rcugini@... | 06/22/07
Bad link  bill.coats64@... | 06/18/07
The link is good but their servers are having problems  georgeou | 06/18/07
Get ROCKBOX & dump applecrap  SupaWales | 06/19/07
Well I will admit since I don't have problems with iTunes  Laff | 06/19/07
How about..  supercharlie | 06/19/07
PC bliss in 3 easy steps  DarthRidiculous | 06/19/07
Thank you for the worthless post!!!  James T. Kirk | 06/19/07
Yep,sure is a worthless post...  Old Timer 8080 | 06/19/07
The reason it is worthless is ...  ShadeTree | 06/19/07
Or Fedora, or Solaris, or BSD or pretty much anything else.  rweiler@... | 06/19/07
Thank you for your worthless follow-up post!!!!  James T. Kirk | 06/20/07
PC Decrapifier  jon_bjerke@... | 06/19/07
PC Decraptifier  Raymond Danner | 06/19/07
it depends  jon_bjerke@... | 06/21/07
Real Player, another  bbbaldie_z | 06/19/07
Avoid Real Player like the plague  georgeou | 06/19/07
Real Player More Than a CrapsWare  pobstar1@... | 06/20/07
K-Lite includes Real Alternative  georgeou | 06/20/07
Dual Boot Systems  burt@... | 06/19/07
Should only affect at the individual OS level  georgeou | 06/19/07
ccleaner and autoruns on dualboot  percent22@... | 06/21/07
Don't uncheck everything  brucegil@... | 06/19/07
No, a healthy system doesn't need anything  georgeou | 06/19/07
Only for Geeks  tailithskywalker@... | 06/19/07
Web Presents:  tailithskywalker@... | 01/02/09
Unchecking everying is a definate No  islandsparkle@... | 06/21/07
Halfway solution  kvo | 06/19/07
Completely on Topic  pj_mouse | 06/19/07
Sorry  pj_mouse | 06/19/07
The scheduler instead of run and runonce reg keys  GrahamJB | 06/19/07
It slows your PC down to a craw  e_s | 06/19/07
Haha  huber5020@... | 06/19/07
Easy method: Format C:...  Narg | 06/19/07
it worked great - thank you  dennisharoldsen@... | 06/19/07
You mean your mouse scroller needs a special helper app?  georgeou | 06/19/07
Remember to Refresh  djdawson | 06/19/07
Ah yes, you're right  georgeou | 06/19/07
It's advertising and people get kickbacks.  OKJoe | 06/19/07
Virus autorun  jwb@... | 06/19/07
Only if you choose to  georgeou | 06/19/07
Fighting the losing battle  DLMc | 06/19/07
Works Great  Dieselmech | 06/19/07
Your boot time and app load times should be faster too  georgeou | 06/19/07
Warning!! Ccleaner 1.40 Maybe Problem  msowajr@... | 06/19/07
Wrong Icon  timpatco | 06/19/07
IBM Thinkpad -- Leave the drivers in autorun  stevesliva | 06/19/07
You don't need to park a hard drive since the 80s  georgeou | 06/19/07
Well, when you drop it...  stevesliva | 06/19/07
Can you tell me the name of the application causing BSOD?  georgeou | 06/19/07
New PC != fully updated  binaryspiral | 06/19/07
drvmcdb.sys  stevesliva | 06/19/07
That looks nasty  georgeou | 06/19/07
there is software from dell  hen770@... | 06/19/07
Interesting, thanks!  georgeou | 06/19/07
Problems with Autoruns and Acronis True Image  Mr Z. | 06/19/07
Looks like Acronis makes some very deep ties and modifications  georgeou | 06/19/07
Acronis Uninstall  Mr Z. | 06/19/07
Oh YA...  astephencaseyjr@... | 06/19/07
Nice... thanks, btw.  stevesliva | 06/19/07
I'm still concerned about that so-called Sonic driver  georgeou | 06/19/07
FYI  ShadeTree | 06/20/07
DVD Software  stevesliva | 06/20/07
Yes, just install K-Lite Mega Pack  georgeou | 06/20/07
No programs, really  stevesliva | 06/19/07
That sucks  georgeou | 06/19/07
Easy Cleaner is also an excellent "free" tool.  sleepin'dawg | 06/19/07
Well ATI sucks so....  macoafi | 06/20/07
What about backweb?  skatersev | 06/20/07
In general, I try to disable as much as possible  georgeou | 06/20/07
Verify Code Signatures has no effect  kamuala@... | 06/20/07
Hit F5 to refresh  georgeou | 06/20/07
It must be nice...  kamuala@... | 06/21/07
Regclean  don_jo@... | 06/20/07
Mine is still down  davidwtc@... | 06/20/07
Same Problem  lmandrews | 06/20/07
Have you tried going in safe mode and then rechecking everything?  georgeou | 06/20/07
indeed you are correct  jquatam99@... | 06/21/07
Crapware isn't Microsoft's doing  georgeou | 06/21/07
YES! Someone with sense!  XweAponX | 06/21/07
Can't defrag now  gcsmith7@... | 06/21/07
Go back and re-enable IOBIT in Autoruns  georgeou | 06/21/07
Thank you but...  gcsmith7@... | 06/22/07
Here's some updated info  georgeou | 06/22/07
Crapware Bye Bye!  brobertbbb@... | 06/21/07
That's still more than twice as long as it needs  georgeou | 06/21/07
You Caused a Disaster...  richard.posner@... | 06/22/07
Well, I'd be happy to help answer questions  georgeou | 06/22/07
Wishing I'd never read this article.  v-gutman@... | 06/22/07
Have you simply re-enabled everything in Autoruns?  georgeou | 06/22/07
Ummm...Houston??? We have a problem....LOL!!!  RJ S Dangerous | 06/22/07
What about "last known good" boot?  georgeou | 06/22/07
Broke my WLAN  jmattioni@... | 06/22/07
WLAN should work without any startup  georgeou | 06/22/07
Get rid of Adobe Acrobat  ccrashh2@... | 06/22/07
It is quite bloated  georgeou | 06/22/07
Keyboard completely dead  kpann@... | 06/22/07
Next Step  kpann@... | 06/22/07
Can you boot in safe mode?  georgeou | 06/22/07
Thanks for response, George  kpann@... | 06/22/07
With the PS/2 keyboard, can you load "Last known good"?  georgeou | 06/22/07
Yo George...problem solved...  RJ S Dangerous | 06/22/07
Cool, wipe and reload is the cleanest  georgeou | 06/22/07
Steer clear of these steps for the sake of your sanity.  v-gutman@... | 06/22/07
Crapware  kingkonglouie@... | 06/22/07
Do you know what "non-destructive" means?  georgeou | 06/22/07
It worked great! Thank you, thank you  sal1957 | 06/23/07
I don't want to sound.....  gcsmith7@... | 06/23/07
You mean you can't defrag your hard drive?  georgeou | 06/23/07
That's right Ican't defrag  gcsmith7@... | 06/24/07
Ok, so it runs but it's not getting 100% results  georgeou | 06/24/07
There's a joke in this....  gcsmith7@... | 06/25/07
I don't understand the obsession with 0 fragmentation  georgeou | 06/25/07
Microsoft doesn't get it  Yonhope@... | 06/24/07
bit of overkill  mombo | 06/26/07
You don't have to reinstall drivers, but always good to have newer drivers  georgeou | 06/27/07
This Fried My Laptop (literally!)  m_e_brown@... | 06/27/07
Did you leave the stuff in the driver tab checked?  georgeou | 06/27/07
De-Gunking We Will Go, De-Gunking We will Go  arainbob@... | 07/10/07
CC, AVG, KOMODO, Ad-Aware, SpyBotSD  Old Timer 8080 | 07/12/07
OOPS, My bad. COMODO  Old Timer 8080 | 07/12/07
Real Player is the worst CRAPwear  mflemming@... | 07/12/07
We prefer to call it...  JohnBoyTheGreat | 07/13/07
Wait - You forgot one!  Someguy2 | 07/14/07
3 Days Attempting Recovery... and Counting  slhadle | 07/17/07
CCleaner  minnxp | 08/09/07
One man's Crapware...  rstone1005 | 09/24/07
Like I said, it's anything you don't use gunking up your PC  georgeou | 09/24/07
I felt like rstone***  JCitizen | 10/01/07
RE: How to fully de-gunk a PC of Crapware  phthisis37-web1@... | 09/29/07
My 2 Cents on the Subject...  the_webninja@... | 01/11/08
RE: How to fully de-gunk a PC of Crapware  s5e5com | 07/06/09
RE: How to fully de-gunk a PC of Crapware  toddbrdtt@... | 01/13/10
All is well, finally !  toddbrdtt@... | 01/18/10

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