The design looks like a knock off ....
ShadeTree | 08/08/07
|

Ok, you got me
georgeou | 08/08/07
|
 
how did he get you?
doh123 | 08/10/07
|

Left out the link
ShadeTree | 08/08/07
|
 
LOL
JohnM865 | 08/08/07
|
  
ROFL
Richard Flude | 08/08/07
|
  
See my reply below.(nt)
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
 
What the Gateway really looks like
keel | 08/08/07
|
  
Short URL for Gateway
keel | 08/08/07
|
  
what the gateway really looks like its a remodled TAM
doh123 | 08/10/07
|

Are You Crazy?!?
Reverend MacFellow | 08/09/07
|
 
Variatin on a theme!
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
  
Hmmmm....
cashaww | 08/09/07
|
   
The all in one you reffer to was a large form factor ....
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
    
LCD all in one before Gateway?
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
  
However
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
  
You're pathetic
MacCanuck | 08/09/07
|
   
Refining a design is not the same as inventing
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
    
So the Gateway is just another form of the
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
    
Shade Tree, people who live in glass houses...
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
Give it up, Shady, nobody is
fuzzy2k | 08/09/07
|
   
Really!
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
    
Wrong but then again all generalizations tend to be...
Laff | 08/10/07
|
    
The author is so shallow
mlindl | 08/10/07
|

Definately ripped from elsewhere.....
D3Vez | 08/09/07
|

And Gateways was a knock-off of the iMac
BitTwiddler | 08/09/07
|
 
The Gateway was the first LCD based ...
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
  
the 2006 Gateway all in one
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
no, it wasnt, the Apple TAM was
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
  
Still wrong
frabjous | 08/12/07
|

But wait...
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
 
And where . . .
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|
  
What's a killer app?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
   
One that has NEVER been done before and . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|

The difference is
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|

Apple followed Gateway? Hardly.
7stringdude | 08/09/07
|
 
Apple had a CRT based all in one wich ...
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
  
The 20th Anniversary was LCD not CRT
7stringdude | 08/09/07
|
   
yes Apple was first
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
  
What about the Lisa?
Laff | 08/10/07
|

Whatever
flatliner | 08/09/07
|
 
One word...
uhlocalboy@... | 08/09/07
|
 
Agreed.
ShadeTree | 08/09/07
|
  
Apple invented the PC and the all-in-one, remember?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
so here is your point...
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
   
The Apple TAM was not an all in one ...
ShadeTree | 08/10/07
|
    
You're joking, right?
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
 
Tru Dat.......
Laff | 08/10/07
|
Very misleading picture
ye | 08/08/07
|

Yes
dragosani | 08/08/07
|

It is somewhat misleading, but some truth to it
georgeou | 08/08/07
|

Not misleading
Fred Fredrickson | 08/08/07
|
 
Why bother?
comp_indiana | 08/09/07
|
 
You, like Apple, are picking a choosing for your example.
ye | 08/09/07
|
  
And where, oh where, is the printer cable? (nt)
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|
   
Plugged into...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
    
Which isn't Pictured . . .;) (nt)
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
     
Of course not...
msalzberg | 08/11/07
|
  
You miss the point, buh
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
   
Perhaps someone forgot to clue . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
    
Hmm....
msalzberg | 08/11/07
|
    
From the PC Magazine review..
msalzberg | 08/11/07
|
    
I think you need a clue.
A Grain of Salt | 08/11/07
|
 
This isn't meant as a criticism but
MrBeck | 08/09/07
|
  
Actually in business settings it does matter
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
   
Really
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
    
Maybe you need to get out into the public a little more
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
     
I get out quite a bit
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
     
Could you tell us what part of the Country you're in, . . .
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|
    
And I'll bet your office has a "cluttered desktop policy!"
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
This also isn't meant as a criticism but
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Because how it looks is your first port of judgement
mlindl | 08/10/07
|

Priceless
Richard Flude | 08/08/07
|
 
Come to think of it, more likely IR receiver
Richard Flude | 08/08/07
|
 
So? It's still a cable.
ye | 08/09/07
|
  
So?
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
   
That the photo is an exaggeration.
ye | 08/09/07
|
    
Not so much
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
    
Send us a link to your PC cable stuff
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
Not a cable coming out of the mac
Richard Flude | 08/09/07
|
   
How about the Mini or Mac Pro?
ye | 08/09/07
|
    
Price.
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
     
Irrelevant
ye | 08/12/07
|
  
Less clutter
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
It's not a card reader - its a webcam
ITGuy04 | 08/09/07
|
  
re: It's not a card reader - its a webcam
Badgered | 08/09/07
|

Sorry, not misleading - equivalence!
Reverend MacFellow | 08/09/07
|
 
Why have IR if you're using cabled keyboards and mice?
ye | 08/09/07
|
  
The remote-control "clicker" uses IR. (NT)
Atlant | 08/09/07
|
   
Speculation. We don't know what's configured.
ye | 08/09/07
|
    
And you are trying your hardest
MacCanuck | 08/09/07
|
     
So what about the Mini and Mac Pro?
ye | 08/09/07
|
     
ye, does the Dell have something that is comparable?
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
    
And we know you don't know jack...
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
   
Sorry, we didn't realize you didn't have . . .
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|

And let's not forget about the Mini or Mac Pro
ye | 08/09/07
|

I think...
cashaww | 08/09/07
|

Proof people see what they want to
mlindl | 08/10/07
|

Well..
MaxRahder | 08/12/07
|
In defense of the defenseless
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 08/08/07
|

It is a great design
TripleII | 08/08/07
|

Yup, and I'm even making fun of myself
georgeou | 08/08/07
|
 
We are different creatures than Mainstream
nucrash | 08/09/07
|
It's pretty, but other than that....
nucrash | 08/08/07
|

Actually...
cashaww | 08/09/07
|
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
klo_2k | 08/08/07
|

In reality.....
Laff | 08/09/07
|
 
Jim, I agree, but...
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Well yes and no....
Laff | 08/10/07
|
   
Whenever possible...
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
    
Tru Dat.....and that should be ILLEGAL to waist so.
Laff | 08/10/07
|

I don't buy that, either.
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|

You really don't seem to see the point at all!
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
PCs will get there eventually
Ken_z | 08/08/07
|

You haven't read the OSX EULA
NonZealot | 08/08/07
|
 
I doubt if Apple worries about it.
Ken_z | 08/09/07
|
  
So it is okay to break Apple's EULA?
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Windows EULA
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|
    
So?
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
     
ur obviously getting a cut
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|
     
Wrong!
fde101 | 08/10/07
|
     
How much is a Windows XP Professional license?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
   
How Ironic
MacCanuck | 08/09/07
|
    
what ARE you on about?!?
rtk | 08/09/07
|
 
Hate is a five letter word
Chiatzu | 08/09/07
|
  
Quick answers to inane questions
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Non is drinking too much again.
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
    
The only thing Apple did . . .
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|
     
When you buy an OSX disc..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
  
An obvious point to make, so I shall...
Ben_E | 08/09/07
|
 
Software Update
fde101 | 08/09/07
|
  
More quick answers
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
taking reading classes much?
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
   
WTF does this have to do with the article?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
Spin
frgough | 08/09/07
|
  
Yes, talk about spin!!!
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Let me say it again to the drunkard.
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
    
You missed his point.... again
Badgered | 08/09/07
|
     
Except...
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
    
re: Except
Badgered | 08/09/07
|
     
Just read it for yourself
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
     
fine, I'll give it a shot....
Badgered | 08/09/07
|
     
re: re: you tried
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
   
Go away, you are annoying.
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
And the full price for Vista Ult is $400. What's your point...
BitTwiddler | 08/09/07
|
  
Reallity
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
   
Why throw up Vista Ultimate?
MacCanuck | 08/09/07
|
    
Consumer OS
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
     
Way to take it like a man!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
     
Hey, Kid
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
    
Um...
Ben_E | 08/09/07
|
     
Whoops!
Ben_E | 08/10/07
|
     
iLife is free with your iMac.
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
    
Education discount is what I like
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
 
half-right and half-wrong
Mr_Dave | 08/09/07
|
  
No, I'm all right
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Wrongo EULA breath...
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
   
you are reading the wrong EULA
Mr_Dave | 08/09/07
|
    
sounds like nonzealot has no clothes!!! nt
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|
   
Since Apple doesn't sell...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
  
OSX, the only OS that relies on DRM
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Is it Apples problem you are cheap?
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
    
you're kidding right?
Badgered | 08/09/07
|
   
So, Zealot, what do you call...
msalzberg | 08/09/07
|
    
Don't know what he'd call it, but I'd call it odd
Badgered | 08/10/07
|
     
Not trying to deflect...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
   
So what?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
Non - you are a NUT!
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
  
I'm learning that OSX users have absolutely no morals
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Try calling Apple tech support.
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
    
Maybe
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
   
Security, remove this man from the premises
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
YOU haven't read the OS X SLA correctly
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Repeat it all you want!
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
Ditto
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
   
No it does not!
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
  
And just to rub it in
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
The only one ranting and frothing here
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
  
In the spin cycle
DannyO_0x98 | 08/09/07
|
   
Who cares what Non (entity) says?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
   
Please read the Following:
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
    
And before anyone tells me different . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
 
Microsoft does the same thing
voska | 08/09/07
|
  
You are right
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
   
and YOU are wrong
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
    
Read the Apple SLA for . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
   
Only if the . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
 
I think...
cashaww | 08/09/07
|
 
I wonder why you would even care
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
 
In Fact, Here's the whole EULA, LAWYERS BE BECKONED
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
  
To me, this is the interesting part
Badgered | 08/10/07
|
   
Same as Windows updates..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
    
The question...
Badgered | 08/10/07
|
     
The answer
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
     
I'd say that the...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
   
No!
djdawson | 08/10/07
|
    
I should be getting the definitive answer soon . . .
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|
   
It says and Apple Software update
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
    
You may be right
Badgered | 08/10/07
|
     
I think that the..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
 
You've misunderstood the term "Software Update"
djdawson | 08/10/07
|
  
I'm ok with that explanation, except...
Badgered | 08/10/07
|
 
I use both on the same computer
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Again?
Reverend MacFellow | 08/09/07
|
Jobs has always been about simplicity
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|

Hehe, I loved your post!
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
 
i'm not saying anything
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|
 
5% marketshare is 1 out of every 20 computers
7stringdude | 08/09/07
|
  
OK
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
   
Hate to ruin your rant with facts..
msalzberg | 08/09/07
|
    
Proof?
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
     
Here's just one link.
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
    
OK, I looked at your link below...
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
     
market share
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
     
Apple's marketshare is now..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
  
HP
ITGuy04 | 08/09/07
|
  
HP
ITGuy04 | 08/09/07
|
  
Is it increasing?
Ben_E | 08/10/07
|
 
Marketshare means nothing, it's Install base that is important
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|
  
Proof?
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
   
SPA
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
   
And every computer in use everywhere
mlindl | 08/11/07
|

slight correction.
Tigertank | 08/09/07
|
 
good point
Cornhead | 08/09/07
|

The one button mouse
mlindl | 08/10/07
|

Fine with me
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Don't Forget IWork
mgwyn@... | 08/09/07
|
Have you been to Costco lately?
stano360 | 08/09/07
|

$500 less than $1199 would be $699
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|

Just the other day
ITGuy04 | 08/09/07
|
Yeah, I always check with Gucci before buying a hammer
Vesicant | 08/09/07
|

The same people who..
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
 
Uh-oh!
Atlant | 08/09/07
|
  
"spend their time"
Atlant | 08/09/07
|
  
Spending time
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
   
Wow - I guess you're better than everyone else
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
    
Wow
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
     
well...
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
     
Not to mention...
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
    
Sarcasm
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
 
No well designed milk crates?
Vesicant | 08/13/07
|

"Who gives a flying eff what a computer looks like?"
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Can I install Vista on this thing?
david@... | 08/09/07
|

Windows, in general, works on every other Intel Mac
Atlant | 08/09/07
|

The real question...
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
 
No, the real question is..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
  
Why not?
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
   
For the same reason..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|

Yes
jlbrown23@... | 08/21/07
|
Is that mac expandable? At what cost?
DotNetter_z | 08/09/07
|

Most of us never expand beyond...
Atlant | 08/09/07
|
 
Uh, so where do you put a second hard drive?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/07
|
  
You plug it in the Firewire or USB2.0 port.
Tigertank | 08/09/07
|
   
Your response is ironic
NonZealot | 08/09/07
|
    
Your response is mo' ironic
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
    
still fewer..
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
    
Your missed the point.
Tigertank | 08/09/07
|
 
You should have said...
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Because you cant organize your data onto a single partitioned drive?
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
   
Not that
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
    
Yep
pir8matt | 08/09/07
|
  
Because you linke to dink around with your computer?
Atlant | 08/10/07
|
   
You should say, most Mac users...
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
    
As a former builder..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|

I think you totally missed the point
georgeou | 08/09/07
|
 
History
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
  
You're right, but I think something has changed
georgeou | 08/12/07
|

What?
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Physical computer size
shanedr | 08/09/07
|
Except for the monitor, it looks like my old
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/07
|

Wow
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|

You didn't have the original TRS-80 Model I, then.
JLHenry | 08/10/07
|
 
I had a TRS-80
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
  
EVERYTHING WAS A TANK BACK THEN!!!!
JLHenry | 08/11/07
|

Come to think of it...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
Don't sell beauty short
enovikoff | 08/09/07
|

Apple's margins
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
 
Apple's gross margins..
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|

"They haven't ever been...
msalzberg | 08/11/07
|
Thin is in??? (Again)
gerhart | 08/09/07
|

You CAN upgrade an iMac.
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
 
Upgrade cards?
7stringdude | 08/09/07
|
  
I upgraded two iMacs and three PowerBooks
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Odd picture. Why not compare it to a Mac Pro?
miniboss | 08/09/07
|

But wait,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|

They are comparable machines. Buh.
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Who looks at their computer from the side?
miniboss | 08/09/07
|

You could put the iMac anywhere
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
I Could Buy Three Pcs For The Price Of One imac
chessmen | 08/09/07
|

Goodie goodie goodie
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|

And all three will run circles around the imac. (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/09/07
|
 
Fine if all I want to do is go in circles....
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|

and I can buy 3 Kia for the price of One Mercedes...
el1jones | 08/09/07
|
 
Not with the car comparison again
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Would you actually...
el1jones | 08/10/07
|
   
Actually, I said Toyota or Ford
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
 
And what percentage of the population drives Mercedes?
brble | 08/09/07
|
  
That's what I'm trying to convey... they're not cheap, but..
el1jones | 08/10/07
|
   
Higher end?
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|

Yeah, I can buy 3 PCs for the price of an iMac too...
nix_hed | 08/09/07
|
 
7 years?
brble | 08/09/07
|
  
you dont like...
doh123 | 08/10/07
|
   
Huh? 15 years?
brble | 08/10/07
|
    
so 7 years is about right
psimpsongore | 08/27/07
|

Nobody buys those
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
There's always something missing.
trm1945 | 08/09/07
|

Not really
MarcB_z | 08/09/07
|
 
A small point, but...
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
  
Firewire is the standard interface for...
CowLauncher | 08/09/07
|
   
Neat trick
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
    
'T'arget disk mode...
Atlant | 08/10/07
|
     
Thanks
itpro_z | 08/10/07
|
  
I use Firewire everyday!
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Where's the picture...
joethemacfan | 08/09/07
|
What a bunch of BS... More ZDFUD
TheTruthGiver | 08/09/07
|

Please. ZDNet is a Microsoft shilling machine.
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
What?!
LostViking | 08/09/07
|

LOL, you should have heard the Mac fanboys flame me
georgeou | 08/09/07
|
 
You aren't hated George.
mlindl | 08/10/07
|
Geeez you change computers often
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/09/07
|

But I spend around $800 per computer
georgeou | 08/09/07
|

Consider it a hobby
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
 
Yup, new hardware always puts a big smile on my face
georgeou | 08/09/07
|
With the hard drive crammed in the monitor...
johnay | 08/09/07
|

I don't think it rotates.
georgeou | 08/09/07
|
You mean Gateway is an ugly knock off of the iMac
nomorems | 08/09/07
|
Apples are bargains.
7stringdude | 08/09/07
|

I agree.... (nt)
el1jones | 08/09/07
|

Most of us...
itpro_z | 08/09/07
|
 
I have said over and over...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
|
  
Growth?
itpro_z | 08/10/07
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As usual itpro gets it wrong again
mlindl | 08/10/07
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Sorry, clumsy phrasing on my part
itpro_z | 08/10/07
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Here's the link
mlindl | 08/10/07
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Apple sold 675,000 more machines than Gateway last quarter alone
j.m.galvin | 08/10/07
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I was looking at 1st quarter numbers
itpro_z | 08/10/07
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Real numbers from 10Ks
j.m.galvin | 08/10/07
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No, I was quoting market share...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
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It depends
CobraA1 | 08/09/07
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Explain "power user"
mlindl | 08/10/07
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Power user
itpro_z | 08/10/07
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I you happen to be in Times Square Mondy afternoon
j.m.galvin | 08/10/07
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Would running ...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
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Yes, to all of the above
itpro_z | 08/10/07
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Of course, there isn't..
msalzberg | 08/11/07
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Can only think of vieo & 3d
j.m.galvin | 08/11/07
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"The Whole Story"? Hardly.
ParrotHeadFL | 08/09/07
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youre right
pir8matt | 08/09/07
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Right, But...
ParrotHeadFL | 08/10/07
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What? Backwards compatibility?
mlindl | 08/10/07
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Hardware, not software
ParrotHeadFL | 08/13/07
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There is one fatal flaw in the iMac design
Mectron | 08/09/07
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not if you look at the original imac
inertman@... | 08/09/07
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ZDNet in general loves misleading...
Narg | 08/09/07
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Wow, your genius is stunning
mlindl | 08/10/07
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cute
inertman@... | 08/15/07
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And yet
Boot_Agnostic | 08/09/07
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Apple does not lead anything
jfreedle2@... | 08/09/07
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Sure they do
fde101 | 08/10/07
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That doesn't mean they don't lead
mlindl | 08/10/07
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After being bottom dog for how long?
nucrash | 08/10/07
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Your loss
mlindl | 08/11/07
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Lot of people avoid the Mac because they don't have a desktop.
Resuna | 08/09/07
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Opinions obviously vary...
Atlant | 08/10/07
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Have you used the new...
msalzberg | 08/10/07
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I guess I'll need to buy a $500 rubber skin
happyharry_z | 08/10/07
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Just like the original icrap.. good luck upgrading
Been_Done_Before | 08/10/07
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Ooooooh, Prettyyyyyyy!!!!
Saugus | 08/10/07
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lol
Badgered | 08/13/07
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Mr. Dell gets it...
jgsilva@... | 08/13/07
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