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October 1st, 2007

The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380

Posted by George Ou @ 5:48 am

Categories: Apple, Build it yourself, Consumer electronics, Desktop, Energy efficiency - green, Fun Stuff, Hardware, Intel, Linux, Microsoft, Networking, Processors, Servers

Tags: Hard Drive, PC, Apple Inc., Power Supply, CPU, LCD, Hardboard, Monitors & Displays, Hardware, Components

UPDATE 10/3/2007 - The 22″ dual-core all-in-one game PC for $765

Poor man's all-in-one PC

Apple has their iMac and Gateway has their One, but both of them are in the $1300 to $2300 range depending on the various options.  What about the person on a budget?  Can you get something for less than $400?  You can but you’re going to have to build it yourself and I really do mean BUILD.

It’s time to pull out the handy jigsaw and drill and do some wood working.  See gallery here with full screen downloadable schematics I created.

Poor man's all-in-one PCNow this might look ugly at first glance… ok it is ugly and it’s no iMac by any stretch of the imagination but this is a very crude mock-up cranked out on a Sunday afternoon.  But that’s not a problem since the actual schematic has the sides and top covered so you won’t see the internal guts and it will muffle the sound of the hard drives.  When I get around to it, I’ll do the full build and repost the finished pictures.

It’s currently one of those things that only a mother or builder could love but what’s important is that it successfully booted Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux.  I managed to move the device from room to room without having to connect the monitor and PC individually.  I surfed the web and watch DVDs pulled off the network since this unit doesn’t have a DVD drive though we can certainly add a slim model to it.

Pictured below is the full schematic but you can click on it for a full screen download.

Poor man's all-in-one PC schematic

The poor man’s all-in-one PC costs $380 including a 20″ wide-screen LCD. Image shows an older 19″ LCD with a crude mock-up attached to the back.  The entire computer including the LCD takes 58W in idle and 64W at peak CPU operation.  The PC itself consumes 30W idle and 36W CPU peak so I’m sure the folks at Climate Savers will approve.  The CPU is a 1.33 GHz Celeron 215 processor based on the “Yonah” Core Microarchitecture with the equivalent performance if a Pentium 4 2.2 GHz.

The motherboard and CPU is a D201GLY which costs $70 at Fry’s Electronics.  The one annoying thing about this particular motherboard is that it doesn’t support S3 sleep so it can’t really save any power when you suspend the PC although it doesn’t use much to begin with and it would be good for something you intend to keep on 24×7 such as a file server or firewall device.  I also got a $3 on/off switch at Fry’s that connects to a 2-pin prong on the motherboard.  The power supply is an “80 Plus” 1U PSU from Sparkle Power Inc that costs $50.  You could try this 20″ Acer or 20″ Sceptre LCD display with VGA and DVI ports for $180 each and you really won’t save that much money if you tried looking for 17″ or 19″ LCDs.  What’s important is that the VESA mount is completely exposed so that we can hang our PC off the back.  Two screws 100mm apart are used to bolt the computer to the VESA mount on the back of the LCD.  You can buy a pair of 512MB DDR2-667 DIMMs for $36 and get 512 MB for two computers so the cost per unit is only $20 including shipping.  Here you can get a 250GB 3.5″ hard drive for $50.

The entire thing measures 87.7 mm thick (3.45″) so it will not stick out too far from the back of the LCD when completed.  That’s actually the perfect thickness for mounting a silent 80mm fan if we load it up with two Hard Drives and cover up all the sides.  All the cables are self contained though I had to twist the two power cords together and they both connect near the same location for the PC and the LCD.  The VGA or DVI cord can be tidied up for a very short run from the PC to the back of the LCD and the same for the USB.  The sides are half-inch thick MDF wood.  The top and bottom are quarter-inch thick hardboard.  The cost for the wood material is almost negligible since it was around $7 for a 2×4 foot panel and I picked it up at Home Depot though most hardware stores will have it.

Hardboard is relatively light and strong and you can drill some smaller holes and screw the four motherboard mounts directly in to it.  Just be careful you don’t screw it in so tight that you strip the wood and fiber and it’s probably a good idea to use wood glue to hold it in permanently.  The same goes for the two power supply holes used to hold down the PSU.  The two holes for the VESA mount were larger and loose because the screws go in to the back of the LCD and the same goes for the four hard drive holes.

This design leaves enough room for two hard drives mounted on the top and bottom but you’re going to have to wait for the D201GLY2 which has two SATA ports in addition to a PATA IDE port before you can actually use two hard drives.  There is also enough room for a half-height PCI card so we can plug in a TV tuner card or Gigabit network adapter if we want to use this thing as a high-speed NAS (Network Attached Storage).  The rest is up to your imagination.

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RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380
Cool idea. Reminds me of the old lunchpail systems. So, what about a base for the screen that holds a battery backup, the psu, and two 120 volt receptacles (screen and sound sys). Together these parts would be heavy enough to support the screen and the psu will not stick out of the back.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: mtaylor619@... Posted on: 06/17/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
My 2 in 1 Rig should come very soon  nucrash | 10/01/07
This doesn't have to be VESA mounted.  georgeou | 10/01/07
One change ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/01/07
The mobo has 4 internal USB leads.  georgeou | 10/01/07
An Internet Radio Receiver article  john.st.lawrence@... | 02/13/08
This is very cool, George...  mrdatahsZDNet Moderator | 10/01/07
It has a wireless keyboard and mouse already  georgeou | 10/01/07
I'm going to make a more powerful $500 version with DVI  georgeou | 10/01/07
If you wanted...  nucrash | 10/01/07
Well, you just wait till I come up with a better version  georgeou | 10/01/07
I can get you the right board, but...  nucrash | 10/01/07
No, that's not even close  georgeou | 10/01/07
Build your own? Ubuntu Linux?  bportlock | 10/01/07
Toolbox version  dimonic | 10/02/07
Better Supply List?  nucrash | 10/01/07
You're right, need to put memory and HDD  georgeou | 10/01/07
Thanks for the update  nucrash | 10/01/07
But the 2 piece kit for future projects  georgeou | 10/01/07
Oh, trust me, I will find a way to use both sticks  nucrash | 10/01/07
But will it mesh with OLPC?  jacarter3 | 10/01/07
jeeze  shis-ka-bob | 10/01/07
Plus a few student volunteers  georgeou | 10/01/07
Geeze  jacarter3 | 10/02/07
I'm often too earest  shis-ka-bob | 10/02/07
RE: Geeze  joe6pack_z | 10/02/07
Dear George wow  Quebec-french | 10/01/07
Thanks, this is just the first version too  georgeou | 10/01/07
where is the price difference comes from?  Linux Geek | 10/01/07
You're absolutely right  georgeou | 10/01/07
Nice  Ben_E | 10/01/07
The entire PC generates 30W  georgeou | 10/01/07
You can also use  Linux User 147560 | 10/01/07
Under $400 and it generates its own electricity?  fde101 | 10/01/07
geeze (again)  shis-ka-bob | 10/02/07
Consumes?  nucrash | 10/01/07
So... I could build a 2 on 1 Rig...  nucrash | 10/01/07
You don't want to do that  georgeou | 10/01/07
I meant consumes  georgeou | 10/01/07
Software? Time and Effort?  MarcB_z | 10/01/07
Leave George Alone ..  babyboomer57 | 10/01/07
It's for the right audience  georgeou | 10/01/07
It's for the right audience  Fritz_Monroe | 10/02/07
people like you overestimate the value of your time  Absolutely | 10/11/07
Go play with your iLife and leave us alone.  ajole | 11/08/07
should call it a supercompact  Been_Done_Before | 10/01/07
All-in-One is correct  nucrash | 10/01/07
If you are going to make a comparison  MarcB_z | 10/01/07
You are definitely not a geek happy  pauliusp | 10/01/07
Right  MarcB_z | 10/01/07
Sometimes its just fun to make something.  ajole | 11/08/07
Don't Often Agree with you George, but this one is good.  BanjoPaterson | 10/01/07
Speaking of the poor mans PC.. HP bought neoware  Been_Done_Before | 10/01/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  Haras2U | 10/01/07
Cool post.  hawkeyeaz1 | 10/01/07
I like it..... I really do!  Laff | 10/02/07
It would be possible to build a better rig  nucrash | 10/02/07
From specs I've read and pics I've seen  laura.b | 10/02/07
Keep in mind the performance  nucrash | 10/03/07
Paint Job.....  blondie@... | 10/02/07
Oh well, it's not the $100 PC, but...  Dr_Zinj | 10/02/07
Dork!  voicebox5 | 10/02/07
Fetch Unadvise, Dude nt  seanferd | 10/02/07
Crazy Cool George  mhayes_z | 10/02/07
I almost have a bigger version that will do full MicroATX  georgeou | 10/02/07
It's A Revolution  mhayes_z | 10/02/07
Working on it  georgeou | 10/02/07
The Apple iMac is NOT the cheapest Mac - the Mac Mini is! And it's $500  G Brent LeVasseur | 10/02/07
The Apple iMac is NOT the cheapest Mac - the Mac Mini is! And it's $500  G Brent LeVasseur | 10/02/07
It's not about price  smoyer@... | 10/02/07
This article is about duct tape, actually  comp_indiana | 10/02/07
Not nearly as much?  tim@... | 10/02/07
ZDNET if you only have looked Newegg.com  Randalllind | 10/02/07
But is it an All-inOne PC?  nucrash | 10/02/07
screwing a board to a monitor not a good ideal!  Randalllind | 10/02/07
Actually  The_Curmudgeon | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  disisdkat | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  dzabor@... | 10/02/07
You're 'stretching the truth' again, George  comp_indiana | 10/02/07
George is almost right  grail@... | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  urish@... | 10/02/07
Laptop for $400?  MWPollard | 10/04/07
I'm Pumped happy  burtoni | 10/02/07
I thought about the desk PC too, but you got cables from desk to LCD  georgeou | 10/02/07
USB would be the easiest part  comp_indiana | 10/02/07
My idea was to have everything enclosed...  burtoni | 10/02/07
Why?  urish@... | 10/02/07
Well, for $500 we can get dual-core processor  georgeou | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  IMGoldfinger | 10/02/07
Stupid Idea..  kenlee514@... | 10/02/07
Stupid idea  ahilal@... | 10/02/07
Awesome - hook me up!  neoanderthal | 10/02/07
The specs you're quoting usually goes for $600  georgeou | 10/02/07
RE: Stupid Idea  Linux uSer | 10/02/07
I hereby revoke your geek license  nucrash | 10/03/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  chas@... | 10/02/07
Better Ways  tonyfriendly@... | 10/02/07
OS-price tag?  Joschibaer | 10/02/07
$50 where?  Randalllind | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  shears2@... | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  varick | 10/02/07
That wasn't the point  georgeou | 10/02/07
Just a novelty computer  Pyrotech_z | 10/02/07
Gateway's One is a burde and bizarre copy of Apple iMac  vespinas@... | 10/02/07
All-in-ones aren't unique to these two companies, you know  laura.b | 10/05/07
OLPC exists  martin.okle@... | 10/02/07
Very Inspiring!  joerocket! | 10/02/07
I only used a jigsaw  georgeou | 10/02/07
Solid PC for 250 READ This  pcguy777 | 10/02/07
No 20" Monitor  nucrash | 10/02/07
250 dollar computer  windraver@... | 10/02/07
I think your math is off......  Laff | 10/02/07
Tgierdirect.ca  Bite Me_Ax_Moron | 10/03/07
I like it  alaniane@... | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  boxfordave@... | 10/02/07
Umm... how about RFI shielding?  d.gruntled | 10/02/07
Didn't see a problem with that.  georgeou | 10/02/07
The neighbor of a system builder...  d.gruntled | 10/03/07
Nice idea George  The_Curmudgeon | 10/02/07
Yeah, I'll look in to that option of RF shielding  georgeou | 10/02/07
RF is a BIG problem  jml5@... | 10/05/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  labarker | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  dpileggi@... | 10/02/07
LOL - Classic  laura.b | 10/02/07
Yeah, wait for version 2 with the dual-core and DVI.  georgeou | 10/02/07
Panelling - Great idea!!  burtoni | 10/03/07
$380  ralphdb@... | 10/02/07
Cheaper than the Gateway 610XL  jffktt@... | 10/02/07
Clever project - good article George.  kbaily05@... | 10/02/07
Not worth the effort  jimc52@... | 10/02/07
RE: Not worth the effort  Linux uSer | 10/02/07
where's the monitor on your $600 computer?  ChazzMatt | 10/02/07
Beer is the healthier drink & value PC is hot  JonOne | 11/08/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  karihouse | 10/02/07
IBM P4 or HP  Bite Me_Ax_Moron | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  wjbyman@... | 10/02/07
not the point  ChazzMatt | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  RobinSoCal@... | 10/02/07
Done Good!  RobinSoCal@... | 10/02/07
Thanks for getting the point of it  georgeou | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  jabbott@... | 10/02/07
This is great!  tBuggR | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  gigaferz | 10/02/07
Don't want to disappoint you, but ...  zsguthy@... | 10/02/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  esalkin | 10/03/07
Off-focus comments  MWPollard | 10/04/07
All great points  georgeou | 10/04/07
Simplicity Suggestion: Power  MWPollard | 10/04/07
Can't find power splitter, though...  MWPollard | 10/04/07
I found 1 foot long NEMA cables. We can use a Y power extension cord.  georgeou | 10/04/07
Found one at CyberGuys  MWPollard | 10/05/07
I found 1 foot cables for $2  georgeou | 10/05/07
Message has been deleted.  kapilkhannain@... | 10/05/07
I would go the a local HS shop class and have them  Laff | 10/05/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  mateokow@... | 10/08/07
But will it run "Flight Simulator"  AtlantaTerry | 10/08/07
I just cut $56.00 off of the $380.00 poor man???s computer.  usarcomputertec | 10/12/07
Semprons use a lot more power though  georgeou | 10/17/07
Hmm, different definition of "poor" ...  daboochmeister | 11/08/07
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  ja4509 | 11/08/07
spent a bit more . . .  pete_w_flynn@... | 11/09/07
case and power supply  lesko | 01/17/08
RE: The poor man's all-in-one PC for $380  mtaylor619@... | 06/17/09

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