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October 9th, 2007

OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize

Posted by George Ou @ 2:42 am

Categories: Hardware, Intel, Linux, Microsoft, Mobile/Wireless

Tags: PC, One Laptop Per Child Project, George Ou

As Nicholas Negroponte said a year and a half ago in a presentation on the OLPC: “people really don’t want to criticize this because it is a humanitarian effort, it is a non-profit effort and to criticize it is a little bit stupid actually”.  When I dared question the need for OLPC mesh networking (criticism on client-side mesh topology and not fixed wireless mesh or wired mesh) since it is a solution to a problem that can be solved a lot cheaper and better though other means, I got flooded with harsh words and intimidation.  I’ve had people accuse me of being a first world rich snob even though I was actually born in the third world and went to a mud-made school with holes for windows and doors.  I even had one person in the past get so personal in a forum that he accused me of hating children, including my own.

When the Indian minister of education Sudeep Banerjee did when he said that the OLPC was “pedagogically suspect” last year, he was quickly dismissed.  Now we have New York Times pundit David Pogue has accused the education minister of fearing a change in the status quo and losing his job though he didn’t have the courage to call him out by name but it’s fairly clear what he meant.  Now I’m not going to sit here and say you can’t criticize the India minister of education, but it’s pretty silly when you consider how well India educates its children when PC penetration in that country is a mere 5%.  Pogue also went on to say that the obstacle to the XO’s (that’s the name of the green OLPC machine) isn’t technology but “big name computer makers” fearing the loss of a two-billion-person market.  I guess Pogue was afraid to call out Microsoft and Intel by name since those are the usual scapegoats for the conspiracy to kill the OLPC.  Never mind the fact that Microsoft has been working with OLPC project and Intel is actually on the board of the OLPC project, we can’t ever blame the OLPC or the project for being too expensive and not delivering on promised features.  It’s always someone else’s fault that foreign governments are only happy to sign on for the OLPC so long as someone else signs the check.

Pogue raved about the “famed $100 laptop” (what’s +$100 among friends) in a video embedded in the same article on page one quoting the battery specs and the mesh feature though I have yet to see an objective analysis of the actual battery life and I have yet to see a successful implementation of client-side mesh topology.  But when it came to actual criticism such as the boot times and application load times, Pogue thought that was just fine since “it isn’t for snarky bloggers it’s for poor kids in other countries”.  But that kind of self-righteous arrogance made me very uncomfortable and what is it about poor kids in other countries that makes it ok for them to have long boot times (2 minutes when I tried it last spring) and application load times (20 seconds when I tried it last spring)?

Maybe if it wasn’t possible to build a responsive $200 laptop, then the OLPC XO’s sluggishness might be an excusable shortcoming but the $230 (basic model with Wi-Fi) Asus Eee has already shown 15 second Linux boot times and Intel Classmate works just fine too.  Instant boot was actually one of Negroponte’s key selling points in the same presentation he gave where he said you couldn’t criticize the OLPC.  Negroponte criticized modern bloated PCs (only if you have too much Crapware which can be removed) and promised that the OLPC will make computing wonderful again with instant boot.  Yet the reality is that OLPC turned out way more sluggish.  But since no one is allowed to criticize the OLPC, I guess everyone is overlooking that minor detail.  The OLPC is the one PC you can’t ever criticize or give an honest assessment of because you’ll be bashed like there’s no tomorrow.

George Ou is Technical Director of ZDNet. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Yes, that's been my experience too, George.
People offer unsolicited advice to "move on" when they're wrong, they know it, and are reluctant to admit it.

Keep on, George, you're right about the OLPC.... (Read the rest)
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Sour grapes?  Robert Crocker | 10/09/07
People are allowed to criticize  georgeou | 10/09/07
Please, this is all about your bruised ego - Give it a break move on -NT!  raycote | 10/09/07
Move on is just another way of saying don't you dare talk about the OLPC  georgeou | 10/09/07
Yes, that's been my experience too, George.  Absolutely | 12/03/07
Also, I'm not the one saying you can't criticize  georgeou | 10/09/07
Haven't you learned yet?  nmh | 10/09/07
Depends I think....  Laff | 10/09/07
Absolutely  nmh | 10/09/07
Apple...  Information_z | 10/09/07
Just a question...  paulinm@... | 10/09/07
Tire kickers amuse me but they do have their purposes I suppose....  Laff | 10/09/07
The problem with Apple  alaniane@... | 10/09/07
Don't know if I agree there.....  James Quinn | 10/09/07
But that is an opinion, hence the confusion  GuidingLight | 10/09/07
Ah I see I was not clear enough....  Laff | 10/09/07
The OLPC program...  Information_z | 10/09/07
If you want to get rid of human suffering....  Laff | 10/09/07
If you want to get rid of human suffering....  Laff | 10/09/07
This reminds me  alaniane@... | 10/09/07
Hey George, where is your contribution?  nomoremicrosoft | 10/09/07
That's exactly what I'm talking about  georgeou | 10/09/07
Hear Hear  maldain | 10/09/07
I agree.  thekclyon@... | 10/14/07
Responsible people...  Information_z | 10/09/07
Enviromentalists are the same way  nucrash | 10/09/07
wounded = wondered  nucrash | 10/09/07
Wonder no more...  Patrick Jones | 10/09/07
What they really need  frgough | 10/09/07
Wow...  rapson | 10/09/07
Are you allowed to say that???? happy  TranMan | 10/09/07
Shouldn't be...  nottheusual1 | 10/09/07
LOL  frgough | 10/09/07
Aye!  kingttx | 10/11/07
True evil  tonymcs@... | 10/09/07
Go talk to someone  frgough | 10/09/07
First of all there were not true communist states only  Laff | 10/10/07
Nope....  Laff | 10/10/07
Act locally, think globally...  Marty R. Milette | 10/09/07
wow, what an interesting story!  warren@... | 10/09/07
Let's cut to the chase  whisperycat | 10/09/07
Bill Gates hates kids so much that....  nucrash | 10/09/07
And your point is???  whisperycat | 10/09/07
By your logic  nucrash | 10/09/07
His point was you were full of BS.  osreinstall | 10/09/07
BS ahoy? Indeed  whisperycat | 10/09/07
The "Mysterious" blackmarket  GuidingLight | 10/09/07
Track record perhaps?  osreinstall | 10/09/07
Attacking the messenger  whisperycat | 10/09/07
Only the messengers with a vested interest.  osreinstall | 10/09/07
Teach a man to fish...  Pantalaimon | 10/09/07
Exactly Pantaliaimon  osreinstall | 10/09/07
top down bottom up  Pantalaimon | 10/09/07
Resources need elsewhere.  osreinstall | 10/09/07
You saw the light  davidfrazier1 | 10/09/07
Wasn't hard.  osreinstall | 10/09/07
Bill Gates has been involved in charity before OLPC  georgeou | 10/09/07
...and...  Information_z | 10/09/07
balance?  Badgered | 10/09/07
More misrepresntation??  whisperycat | 10/09/07
........  Badgered | 10/09/07
I guess you've never heard...  Marty R. Milette | 10/09/07
The apologista are out in force on this one  whisperycat | 10/09/07
Not as full of it as you  GuidingLight | 10/09/07
Hey, Moron ...  babyboomer57 | 10/09/07
Wake up.  Marty R. Milette | 10/09/07
Can I criticize the whole idiocy that is OLPC?  Patrick Jones | 10/09/07
AMEN !!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/09/07
Again with the all dogs have 4 legs so all animals are dogs **** please! NT  raycote | 10/09/07
Could that have to do with the fact  Michael Kelly | 10/09/07
Because  nizuse | 10/09/07
The Redmond take  whisperycat | 10/09/07
The whisperycat take  John Zern | 10/09/07
Many areas have more important needs...  JonathonDoe | 10/09/07
The goal is self help  chemist109 | 10/09/07
True  Patrick Jones | 10/10/07
They read it in a Windows ad  critic-at-arms | 10/09/07
Calculators will create math geniuses  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/09/07
Sad.  HypnoToad72 | 10/09/07
Obviously, you had an abacus or never got past  jacarter3 | 10/09/07
Yet another red herring from Mr. No_Epistemology - NT  raycote | 10/09/07
Yawn  kbaily05@... | 10/09/07
Quite.  HypnoToad72 | 10/09/07
How dare you  frgough | 10/09/07
ROFLMAO (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/09/07
The road to hell is paved with good intentions!  mwagner@... | 10/09/07
too true  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
"It's the intention that counts! "  jacarter3 | 10/09/07
Because George, you are no politician.  osreinstall | 10/09/07
Politicians are corrupt (hopefully not journalists)  charbax@... | 10/09/07
$259 for this model here  georgeou | 10/09/07
What is the power consumption of that unit?  chemist109 | 10/09/07
The market doesn't seem to be agreeing with you  georgeou | 10/09/07
The Market?  notsofast | 10/09/07
Any market  georgeou | 10/09/07
AllAsus.com is a fake (You hopefully aren't)  charbax@... | 10/09/07
Right, anyone that doesn't agree with your pre-conceived conclusions is a s  georgeou | 10/09/07
EEE at $259 is sold at a loss  charbax@... | 10/09/07
You're just on a role today with one ludicrous claim after another  georgeou | 10/09/07
Asus and Intel only want to slow down OLPC  charbax@... | 10/10/07
I criticized it  scott1329 | 10/09/07
Kids wont outgrow browsing the Internet  charbax@... | 10/09/07
If low power were the overriding concern ...  mwagner@... | 10/09/07
XO is the most functionnal  charbax@... | 10/09/07
Utter nonsense  georgeou | 10/09/07
Classmate costs $400, consumes 20W  charbax@... | 10/10/07
Good piece, George!  mwagner@... | 10/09/07
Absolutely Correct .. Power MUST be close by...  babyboomer57 | 10/09/07
There are a lot of places with infrastructure power ONLY  critic-at-arms | 10/09/07
Schools you say? Aren't these wind-up toys intended for school kids?  babyboomer57 | 10/09/07
Schools  notsofast | 10/09/07
Read the post I was responding to ....  babyboomer57 | 10/09/07
That's true, but  notsofast | 10/09/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  ejpoleii | 10/09/07
Give One - Get One  nottheusual1 | 10/09/07
That isn't the point, he was asking why you can't buy one by itself  georgeou | 10/09/07
The tax deduction makes it $200 by itself  charbax@... | 10/09/07
That's assuming you can take a tax detuction and it assumes you're taxed at  georgeou | 10/09/07
typo fix - should have been this.  georgeou | 10/09/07
RE: typo fix  n0neXn0ne | 10/10/07
It wasn't designed for the US market  georgeou | 10/09/07
It'll be a hit in the US market  charbax@... | 10/09/07
Let's Wait and See  orcmid | 10/09/07
Keyboard is rubber and it has zero feedback  georgeou | 10/09/07
Keyboard was improved since Beta3  charbax@... | 10/09/07
You've missed a point again, George  critic-at-arms | 10/09/07
Your definition of "few" extends to 22 years ago?  georgeou | 10/09/07
India - The Big Lie!  ceh4702 | 10/09/07
You're half right  critic-at-arms | 10/09/07
Well, if learning skills kept the West from overpopulating...  HypnoToad72 | 10/09/07
Calling other nations a pile of garbage is just pathetic  georgeou | 10/09/07
Huh?  Pantalaimon | 10/09/07
I quoted his exact text  georgeou | 10/09/07
Note to George:  nizuse | 10/09/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  Sayyad Ahmad Ali | 10/09/07
Confusion...  Information_z | 10/09/07
You are under the wrong impression  georgeou | 10/09/07
I don't recall but...  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
Yes I have  georgeou | 10/09/07
Can you supply a link to your in-depth evaluation article?  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
Sounds like another rhetorical question  georgeou | 10/09/07
Let it be noted then...  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
Foot note is only needed if I claimed this was a hands-on review  georgeou | 10/09/07
kinda hypocritical of you George, eh? ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/09/07
You can write whatever you want...  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
Gutmann made very specific and outrageous claims that were all proven wrong  georgeou | 10/09/07
Dietrich, you're taking a bit of a cheap shot here.  georgeou | 10/09/07
Not a cheap shot, but an expectation of a faithful reader  D. T. Schmitz | 10/10/07
My point is that the in-depth review is coming, but that doesn't mean I can  georgeou | 10/10/07
That's what my point is, you're say I can't write about the OLPC now  georgeou | 10/10/07
You can criticize this if you want.. but lets put this into perspective  Been_Done_Before | 10/09/07
Bad assumptions about the OLPC  georgeou | 10/09/07
While i would normally agree with you on all those points....  Been_Done_Before | 10/09/07
Just wrong  waltmaine | 10/09/07
Math, Language, Science, Social Studies is learned inside the classroom wit  georgeou | 10/09/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  tombalablomba | 10/09/07
$60 Linksys router running modified Linux firmware and $20 antenna  georgeou | 10/09/07
And $300+ million for the power plant?  Robert Crocker | 10/09/07
And if you have no power for that router, what do you do?  georgeou | 10/09/07
You network locally  Robert Crocker | 10/10/07
Books don't have to be expensive  georgeou | 10/10/07
Books are big and heavy  Robert Crocker | 10/11/07
well put, Robert  warren@... | 10/09/07
Who are you going to mesh with if you don't have a router connected to powe  georgeou | 10/10/07
Tesla Coils  ~Obelix~ | 10/09/07
In the base case  tombalablomba | 10/10/07
On a Lighter Note - Or - We can't let George have the last word ...  babyboomer57 | 10/09/07
Have your cake and eat it too...  D. T. Schmitz | 10/09/07
There's a lot to criticize  tonymcs@... | 10/09/07
Really???  ~Obelix~ | 10/09/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  ~Obelix~ | 10/09/07
It's not made to the same durability requirements  georgeou | 10/09/07
RE: It's not made to the same durability requirements  n0neXn0ne | 10/09/07
I HAVE had hands on with the XO  georgeou | 10/10/07
Feel good BS and discriminatory  ejpoleii | 10/09/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  jjmacey@... | 10/09/07
It was a great idea until ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/09/07
That's not even the real reason to criticize  Omch'Ar | 10/09/07
liberation from tyranny...  james.faction | 10/10/07
Huh? Free markets is what fed the developed world all this time  georgeou | 10/10/07
price issue and factors  patibulo | 10/10/07
Why can't you imagine it?  georgeou | 10/10/07
You read Negroponte wrong.  mustangj36@... | 10/13/07
RE: OLPC is the PC you can't ever criticize  BrianC | 10/13/07
XO Power Spec is the most important issue  BrianC | 10/13/07

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