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August 31st, 2005

Microsoft's copyright play and the Trusted Computing Group

Posted by George Ou @ 10:05 am

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Bruce Schneier wrote this piece "Is Microsoft skirting the issue?" but maybe he should have titled it "I hate hardware TPMs because they enable copy protection".  It’s not that I necessarily disagree with Bruce over the issue that the new copy protection features in Windows Vista are a little scary, I just wish he’d be a little more up front and say that rather than skirt around the issue by beating up on the TPM.

As I read Bruce’s article, I thought it was a bit strange to hear a security guy rail against a hardware cryptographic module since the NIST gives these hardware modules the highest rating in authentication security.  Bruce vehemently objects to the obstruction of a software-only based implementation of the TCG, but the whole point of a trusted platform is that it can’t be modified in software form because of the inclusion of a hardware module.  The reality is that the same hardware cryptographic module that enables strong cryptography for strong security can also be used by the movie and music industry to limit our ability to copy music.  While it’s true that the entertainment industry can be overzealous in their copy protection tactics and step on consumer rights, that is a different argument than the security value of a hardware module.  If Bruce wants to rail against something, rail against the entertainment industry rather than an inanimate piece of hardware that has real value in strong security.  The fact that the entertainment industry might abuse the security hardware is a whole different topic.

There is even some talk that Microsoft can use the hardware to block the third world from using pirated copies of Windows, but I really doubt that because Microsoft will be pushing the developing countries towards Linux and Open Office.  Bill Gates himself has even stated that he understands why someone in China who makes $100 a month isn’t going to buy a copy of Windows or Office and those things will be different when their economies and wages rise.  Microsoft wants to be friendly to the Entertainment industry so that they will produce content for the PC in the first place.  Consumers want the freedom and flexibility to use their paid content without any hassles and they will ultimately revolt if the entertainment industry or Microsoft goes overboard.  It’s all just a matter of finding the right balance between the rights of the content producers and the consumers and it will all work itself out in the end.

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but it also depends on the type of smart card. If it is one that carries data then getting the data off would be a little more difficult. One would have to intercept the data between the card and th... (Read the rest)
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Trusted computing?  Reverend MacFellow | 08/31/05
ZDNET's Monkey Business  IT-sys | 08/31/05
What "agreement" might that be?  george_ou | 08/31/05
ZDNET's Monkey Business  IT-sys | 08/31/05
Lots of different points of view here  george_ou | 08/31/05
yes, points of view, not monkey business  IT-sys | 09/01/05
I like to use what works  george_ou | 09/01/05
Gawd, you really are pathetic.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Balance  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Too early to tell  george_ou | 08/31/05
Not too early to see that this is a loser  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Because it's more secure. This is  ordaj@... | 08/31/05
Isn't that what they said last time?  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Except it isn't.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
DRM will exist with or without the TPM  ordaj@... | 08/31/05
Why do you ignore the answers I give you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Because you haven't given me any answers that make sense  tic swayback | 08/31/05
No, they make no sense to you because that's what you want.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Re: No, they make no sense to you because that's what you want.  none none | 08/31/05
They make no sense because there is no substance  tic swayback | 08/31/05
This could be a real train wreck for MS/hollystupid  cyber-shoplifter | 08/31/05
You don't have to buy that content  george_ou | 08/31/05
Which is what will happen  tic swayback | 08/31/05
DIVX  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
Give the man a cegar!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
MS is irrelevant here  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Your right, it's not MS. Carry on.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Re: MS is irrelevant here  none none | 08/31/05
AVOID CONTENT?  cyber-shoplifter | 09/01/05
The sheep revolt  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
Re: Too early to tell  none none | 08/31/05
Not really  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
The only game in town  tic swayback | 08/31/05
I don't think the point of the "skirting" article..  jtnixon | 08/31/05
Exactly!  ickusslime@... | 08/31/05
RTFA  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
If you allow software based implementations  george_ou | 08/31/05
No, George  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
I can do it now. Software is hackable...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
You don't understant "hardware-only"?  george_ou | 08/31/05
Fat fingered understand (nt)  george_ou | 08/31/05
Wouldn't "hardware-only"..  Patrick Jones | 08/31/05
Ok, I should say "hardware-required"  george_ou | 08/31/05
Good enough...  Patrick Jones | 09/01/05
Can't be copied that easily  george_ou | 09/01/05
True  Patrick Jones | 09/01/05
Sure: No software  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
I shouldn't be surprised  george_ou | 08/31/05
Good article George. Isn't this a bit like people saying...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Odd analogy  tic swayback | 08/31/05
So you think Microsoft should go to jail?  george_ou | 08/31/05
Best re-read my post  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Best read my reply. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
I see no one putting the Bit Torrent author in jail.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
Not at the moment you don't  tic swayback | 08/31/05
A challenge is a challenge.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/05
No, you misunderstand altogether  tic swayback | 08/31/05
Cool  Yagotta B. Kidding | 08/31/05
Dealing with the content companies.  Anton Philidor | 08/31/05
"It's to early to tell" not for the sell side analysts  cyber-shoplifter | 09/01/05

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