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September 7th, 2005

Is Word 'open enough for Government work'?

Posted by George Ou @ 11:35 am

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In David Coursey’s latest entry on the Massachusetts Open Document format fight, Coursey points out the futility in Massachusetts’ position.  Although Coursey agrees in principal with Massachusetts State Government CIO Peter Quinn, he sees this as a no-win situation for Massachusetts but feels that Microsoft should officially open up their proprietary document formats because they’re pretty much already open.

Coursey writes:
"I find it hard to imagine that a set of files written in OpenDocument today will be as easy to open in 20 years as files written in Microsoft data formats. I’d be surprised if there were an OpenDocument format in two decades, unless it gains Microsoft’s support."

Looking at this debate from a market share standpoint and what everyone (including Word Perfect and Open Office users) is compatible with, it’s hard to argue with Coursey’s assessment.  Mandating the adoption of the Oasis Open Document format is kind of like mandating the conversion of all public documents from English to Esperanto.  Even though English was a second language for me, I’m perfectly happy with it being the de facto standard and I suspect that most people are in no mood to learn another language because some State bureaucrat mandates it.

Coursey goes on to argue that since Word Perfect and Open Office already read and write Microsoft files, Microsoft has no significant advantage in keeping their file formats closed.  Since Microsoft is already opening up its Office 12 XML formats (with some restrictions) and the existing Microsoft formats are already semi-open, why not officially open up their existing file formats and be a hero.  Most people don’t stick with Microsoft Office because they’re locked in to the file format, they use it because that is the tool they learned and it works well.  There is nothing to be gained by anyone from a file format war.

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Not from an economic point of view
Everyone seems to be arguing from either the pro or con MS camp. Why not look at it from an economic point of view? If everyone, including MS, could come up with a common document format then ANY wo... (Read the rest)
Posted by: rajones_i Posted on: 09/12/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Mass. is just trying to stick it to MS  Arthas | 09/07/05
Yes they are  george_ou | 09/07/05
So you were in the meeting...  Patrick Jones | 09/07/05
c'mon now...  BFD | 09/07/05
I disagree  Patrick Jones | 09/08/05
Why PDF then?  george_ou | 09/08/05
Easy..  Patrick Jones | 09/09/05
XML for word processing isn't bad  george_ou | 09/09/05
Simple compromise  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/07/05
Good solution  george_ou | 09/07/05
Good  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/07/05
Not that simple...  shawkins | 09/07/05
You do realize  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/07/05
Sounds good  Boot_Agnostic | 09/07/05
Even simpler is to require that documents are ALSO stored in  michael_t | 09/07/05
Think about it  rapson | 09/08/05
Wrong parallelism  michael_t | 09/07/05
Two immediate options  george_ou | 09/07/05
A few problems with that...  Zogg | 09/08/05
Free writers  Real World | 09/08/05
Wordpad?  Zogg | 09/08/05
One small problem  Rick_K | 09/08/05
Not really Mike  osreinstall | 09/07/05
Demanding a technology, eh?  Scottman_z | 09/07/05
You are stretching it  osreinstall | 09/07/05
MS Isn't Even Supporting Old Versions Of Windows  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
MS will have to build modules to convert.  osreinstall | 09/07/05
But MS Won't Do It  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
What are you saying  osreinstall | 09/07/05
Um..  Patrick Jones | 09/08/05
Already suggested it  osreinstall | 09/08/05
osreinstall, You are spreading FUD  NetArch. | 09/08/05
Yes it will  osreinstall | 09/08/05
Yes it will not....  NetArch. | 09/09/05
Why are you always ranting MS examples?  osreinstall | 09/09/05
Wait A Second  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
No you wait a second  osreinstall | 09/07/05
Uhmm... No  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
In a way yes  osreinstall | 09/07/05
Get real  Rick_K | 09/08/05
No You get Educated!  osreinstall | 09/08/05
Not by a Zealot  Rick_K | 09/08/05
Government shouldn't interfere  osreinstall | 09/08/05
"Why only one spec?"  NetArch. | 09/09/05
Yes only open source  osreinstall | 09/09/05
No - open formats, standards  NetArch. | 09/09/05
I'm afraid you are the fence post  osreinstall | 09/09/05
Industry Standards are Open Standards  IT-sys | 09/07/05
It Can't Be Both Ways  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
It Can't Be Both Ways  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
Microsoft has a lot to gain from lock-in  buzzl | 09/07/05
9X != NT/XP  Ed_Meyers | 09/07/05
Better question: "Why not demand OpenDoc support in MS Office instead?"  Zogg | 09/08/05
No, they don't seem to think so...  Scottman_z | 09/08/05
Since when  Real World | 09/08/05
Since when?  Scottman_z | 09/08/05
By that logic  Real World | 09/09/05
Yeah...  Scottman_z | 09/09/05
Re: opendoc support  enrico_macias | 09/11/05
It wouldn't matter if it were inferior.  Zogg | 09/11/05
English is the national language  Real World | 09/08/05
The issue is much deeper than popularity...  Root User | 09/08/05
No  Real World | 09/08/05
Except that MS-Office support is reverse engineered.  Zogg | 09/08/05
Then the  Real World | 09/08/05
So why is MS refusing to implement Open Doc?  Zogg | 09/08/05
No idea  Real World | 09/08/05
OpenDoc is an alternative format, not a replacement.  Zogg | 09/08/05
Ever been to Quebec? (NT)  Zogg | 09/08/05
Yes  Real World | 09/08/05
Because everything must be bilingual, by Law. (NT)  Zogg | 09/08/05
Tell that to  Real World | 09/08/05
STILL missing the point  Robert Crocker | 09/08/05
A simple question to those who advocate the open format  Mark Miller | 09/08/05
Quite simple  Rick_K | 09/08/05
Sorry, I still think  Real World | 09/09/05
Accessability is  Rick_K | 09/09/05
It wouldn't be hard for MS to help with this  Mark Miller | 09/09/05
Sorry to say  Rick_K | 09/10/05
Yep  Mark Miller | 09/11/05
Talk is cheap, would you be willing to pay fo rit?  B.O.F.H. | 09/08/05
He might be able to answer some of your questions and concerns  JJ_z | 09/09/05
Open and closed  DonPMitchell@... | 09/10/05
Please provide a URL for documentation on MS-Office formats.  Zogg | 09/10/05
By your definition of 'Open'...  JJ_z | 09/12/05
Not from an economic point of view  rajones_i | 09/12/05

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