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September 16th, 2005

Is the Firefox honeymoon over?

Posted by George Ou @ 2:13 am

Categories: Security

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[Updated: 9/16/2005 7:22PM]  Now that Firefox has become the first viable contender to Microsoft Internet Explorer in years, its popularity has brought with it some unwanted attention.  Last week’s premature disclosure of a zero-day Firefox exploit came a few weeks after a zero-day exploit for Internet Explorer appeared on the Internet.  Firefox not only has more vulnerabilities per month than Internet Explorer, but it is now surpassing Internet Explorer for the number of exploits available for public download in recent months.

Update:  A lot of people have complained that I didn’t list the number of actual "in-the-wild" attacks against the two browser platforms.  The problem with this theory is that they either didn’t read the entire article or they don’t understand what I meant by "published exploits" in the second chart in this blog.  When I say published exploit, I mean a downloadable script or source code that can be used to attack real live browsers in the wild.  These are not simple advisories that talk about certain theoretical exploits.  Published exploits are basically freebies for professional hackers and script kiddies to use in the wild.  Unpublished exploits have to be bought in the underground Internet and I don’t list them here because I have no way of knowing how many there are.  If anyone is wondering why I don’t include any links to the exploit code, that isn’t a mistake.  It is our policy not to link to exploit code.

Here is a break down of recent vulnerabilities:

Month Firefox 1.x Vulnerabilities IE 6.x Vulnerabilities
Sept 2005 1 0
Aug 2005 0 4
July 2005 10 1
June 2005 2 1
May 2005 3 1
Apr 2005 9 3
Mar 2005 15 0
Total 40 10

Note that this is not a count of the number of advisories because advisories can contain multiple vulnerabilities.  This is a count of the actual number of vulnerabilities.

Here is a break down of recent published exploits: 

Month Firefox Exploits IE Exploits
Sept 2005 1 0
Aug 2005 0 3
July 2005 4 1
June 2005 0 0
May 2005 4 0
April 2005 2 2
Total 11 6

Note that I won’t publish the links to these exploits here.

As you can see, the facade that Firefox is the cure to the Internet Explorer security blues is quickly fading.  It just goes to prove that any popular software worth hacking that has security vulnerabilities will eventually have to deal with live working exploits.  Firefox mostly managed to stay under the radar from hackers before April of 2005.  Since that time, new exploits are being released almost on a monthly basis.

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responses  linuxoverwindows | 09/21/05
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Free means free of ANY encumberances.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/16/05
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Re: I see, you don't quite grasp the meaning of Free.  none none | 09/16/05
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Re: None None, you finally agree with me, Thank You!!!  none none | 09/16/05
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BOFH, you can't dish anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/16/05
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Yes indeed: Remember Netcraft.  Zogg | 09/16/05
Deer Park Fixes That  Ed_Meyers | 09/16/05
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Which by the way...  ju1ce | 09/16/05
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George Ou... how do you respond?  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/16/05
Ohh George! Hey you gonna take the challenge?  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/16/05
Statistics ...  George Jay | 09/17/05
George Ou on a pro-MS crusade  georgep_z | 09/16/05
Truth = a crusade?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/16/05
In your world...  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/16/05
I listed exploits  george_ou | 09/16/05
Thank you for the response, now another question  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/17/05
Quite shocking that Firefox has more canned exploits  george_ou | 09/17/05
Shocking?  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/19/05
Geroge, here's a more interesting blog for you to write ..  George Jay | 09/16/05
Not since the existence of Firefox  george_ou | 09/16/05
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'in the time frame that Firefox existed'  Gungnir | 09/16/05
Go look the numbers up yourself  george_ou | 09/16/05
Misleading and distorted statistics...  cdgoldin | 09/19/05
You are obviously retarded!!!!!eleventyeleven!!121  Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/17/05
okay... that's it... that is IT george!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Valis Keogh | 09/16/05
Now I've seen everything  george_ou | 09/16/05
lol  Valis Keogh | 09/16/05
Message has been deleted.  welthagenj@... | 09/22/05
Key security fix needed for IE.  enduser_z | 09/16/05
From the linked Secunia pages  getgaim | 09/16/05
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what about how many of the vulnerabilites still exist  jtoppi | 09/16/05
Some advice for you  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/16/05
Hey thank man  Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/17/05
Your welcome!  Linux Guy 1000 | 09/18/05
No  jesup | 09/16/05
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Ummm... Bugzilla?  escoles@... | 09/20/05
IE has 6 times as many vulnerabilities after patching  raini_z | 09/16/05
IE is Windows-only. Firefox is not.  rsteiner@... | 09/16/05
90+% of the population  balsover | 09/16/05
Why?  friedcow | 12/29/05
Huh?  clyburnw@... | 06/09/07
Disraeli  daboochmeister | 09/16/05
Oops, partial retraction ...  daboochmeister | 09/16/05
ActiveX IS an IE vulnerability.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/18/05
Malicious code is bad, but isn't a flaw  george_ou | 09/18/05
Susceptibility to malicious code is a flaw.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/18/05
ActiveX by Inheretance is a flaw...  ju1ce | 09/19/05
Another Pro MS "Fluff" article  Rick_K | 09/16/05
Another ABM rant.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/16/05
Aww, you must have missed me  Rick_K | 09/17/05
Sigh  clyburnw@... | 06/09/07
RTFA?  bobparsons | 09/16/05
Not a problems are created equal  MarkCarson | 09/16/05
I wonder how many of these  People | 09/16/05
Zero  george_ou | 09/16/05
FYI  Rick_K | 09/17/05
BAD JOURNALISM. Stupid and incorrect article.  getgaim | 09/16/05
4/10  Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/17/05
3.5/10  LibrarianDude | 09/18/05
Interesting  hpguru@... | 09/16/05
have you seen his proof???????  getgaim | 09/16/05
Oh I get it now...  just^me | 09/16/05
And who....  toadlife | 09/16/05
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Any person....  ju1ce | 09/19/05
Do you hear yourself talking?  lengua99 | 09/24/05
IE had a honeymoon  GeorgeTheMonkey | 09/16/05
Love your work  Richard Flude | 09/16/05
Just look at the in-the-wild exploits  george_ou | 09/16/05
Re: Just look at the in-the-wild exploits  none none | 09/17/05
Why?  Richard Flude | 09/18/05
Where did I say that?  george_ou | 09/18/05
Lies, d*** lies, and statistics  technomage_z | 09/16/05
You forgot about the exploits  george_ou | 09/16/05
So?  technomage_z | 09/17/05
P.S.  technomage_z | 09/17/05
Zog said the same thing  george_ou | 09/17/05
"In the wild"?  Zogg | 09/18/05
Somewhat helpful...  technomage_z | 09/18/05
Concerning the FireFox links  Zogg | 09/19/05
Why argue with George?  Rick_K | 09/17/05
Show me where I said that  george_ou | 09/17/05
You posted it in many feedbacks  Rick_K | 09/18/05
Re: You forgot about the exploits  none none | 09/17/05
Wait: who are the real liers?  John Zern | 09/17/05
You can't compare apples and oranges  mintSlice | 09/17/05
I'll keep my tabs, W3C compliance, and plugins, thanks  CobraA1 | 09/17/05
some real facts  pkovac | 09/17/05
some real facts  pkovac | 09/17/05
what I really want to know  emkamau | 09/17/05
Firefox safer after all.  uno@... | 09/17/05
MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!!!!  Jeff the god of biscuits | 09/17/05
I am still in the middle of my honeymoon!  getgaim | 09/17/05
Now what I find amusing about this article is it is just  Laff | 09/18/05
I'm 30 Jimbo..  Jeff Spicoli | 09/18/05
Provacotive?  D-T-Schmitz | 09/18/05
Firefox = no ActiveX = 1 billion times more secure than IE  Kuth678 | 09/18/05
Firefox is still better, because it's not "integrated"  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/18/05
Flat out wrong  george_ou | 09/18/05
Yes, you are. Feel free to retract your claim.  Immanuel Tranz-Mischen | 09/18/05
Also note...  zkiwi | 09/18/05
Feel free to back up your claims  toadlife | 09/19/05
I'm gonna agree with George...  ju1ce | 09/19/05
Defacement of apache with the older PhP modules  michael_t | 09/19/05
System crash  SupraGuy | 09/19/05
And just today ...  George Mitchell | 09/18/05
MS malaise is now so obvious even Businessweek in onboard  Richard Flude | 09/19/05
George Ou, your FUD is irrelevant  whisperycat | 09/19/05
In which case...  SupraGuy | 09/19/05
George, and did IE had a honeymoon ever?  Rafael Ribeiro | 09/19/05
Ou - weeee!  Reverend MacFellow | 09/19/05
Comparing TNT to firecrackers!  Reverend MacFellow | 09/19/05
At least Firefox doesn't allow drive-by spyware installs...  BitTwiddler | 09/19/05
Stupid  tbannister | 09/19/05
George, by so blatantly and transparently revealing your pro-MS  michael_t | 09/19/05
Was this supposed to make sense?  Mark Miller | 09/19/05
You're just being ignorant; it's unpatched what matters  Someguy2 | 09/19/05
I am a little puzzled here: is George immitating Mike Cox? It is  michael_t | 09/19/05
I am a little puzzled here: is George immitating Mike Cox? It is  michael_t | 09/19/05
How long did each one take to fix?  stevefeinstein | 09/19/05
Not a surprise  lost_coyote | 09/19/05
I always said that it would be this way.  SupraGuy | 09/19/05
Microsoft has had 4 years to fix IE  IQ9 | 09/19/05
The truth about alternative browsers!  bajoe | 09/19/05
Yes, because my data an my "identity"...  MildlyAmuzed | 09/21/05
Answer to our problems  john266 | 09/19/05
Not surprising  DonPMitchell@... | 09/19/05
What's wrong with you all, people?  Grayson Peddie | 09/20/05
Headline SHOULD Read...  doctordawg | 09/20/05
The unpatched IE vulnerabilities are not critical  george_ou | 09/20/05
Who cares about "the same time frame"?  Someguy2 | 09/21/05
Freshness does matter  george_ou | 09/21/05
So...  Anti_Zealot | 09/21/05
Are you plain stupid or just kidding...?  Someguy2 | 09/22/05
Plain "stupid" interpretation.  george_ou | 09/23/05
well this is a old message to update  IceTheNet@... | 10/19/05
And the flaws are patched already?  tickdude | 09/21/05
Yep  bluumax | 09/21/05
Is the day of irresponsible journalism upon us?  MildlyAmuzed | 09/21/05
Security Patches and Features  dbrimlow | 09/21/05
It will soon be over with me  tmb_z | 09/21/05
It will soon be over with me  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 09/21/05
why are you sending me old blogs in the email  IceTheNet@... | 09/21/05
Because of the TalkBack!  S.Howard-SarinZDNet Moderator | 09/21/05
oh I thought you were board  IceTheNet@... | 10/19/05
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
To the point  code_flogger | 09/21/05
Now I know ZD is on the take  supoman | 09/21/05
Who cares? Use the browser you prefer.  benning | 09/21/05
As usual Firesux fans are in an uproar  golowenow | 09/21/05
Firesux huh?  OmegaFirebolt | 09/26/05
RE: Firefox  iwish40 | 09/21/05
Overhyped right from the beginning  witan | 09/21/05
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
User Experience  Gregory.J.Bradley@... | 09/21/05
Must... must hate Microsoft... must... click... SKRRR  Andacar | 09/21/05
Hmmm, nice title... not...  OmegaFirebolt | 09/26/05
George what u have not mentioned!  welthagenj@... | 09/22/05
Admin please del George Ou ... article  welthagenj@... | 09/22/05
My two cents  rbittner | 09/22/05
FireFox is v1, IE is v6...  RealNonZealot | 09/22/05
So you're recommending against the use of 1.0 software?  george_ou | 09/23/05
No, what he's saying is  lengua99 | 09/24/05
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
They have visited secunia.com?  jolumoar | 09/22/05
Did not read all 300+ posts but....  The King's Servant | 09/22/05
Merci, Obrigado, Gracias, Thanks!  ruprick_z | 09/22/05
Great post, I accept your challenge  george_ou | 09/23/05
What is a zero day exploit?  degger007 | 09/22/05
You would be foolish to believe this  george_ou | 09/23/05
on the users behalf  IceTheNet@... | 10/19/05
what?  todbran@... | 12/29/05
Honeymoon  CodeBubba | 09/23/05
Hate to Say I Told You So.  iom88@... | 09/24/05
Denial  theblue1 | 09/24/05
The honeymoon is about to begin  Greenknight_z | 09/25/05
...Are all of you mad?  Berdon | 10/05/05
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
I said it from DAY one!  MajikMyst | 12/29/05
IE is everything but secure  todbran@... | 12/29/05
Is this the best you can do George?  Simpatico | 12/29/05
Are you sure?  Pazooza | 12/29/05
Avg. Time to Repair  sylerner | 12/29/05
Also depends on how hard they are to fix  Leria | 12/29/05
How many of these are patched?  fallentech | 04/20/06
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
Message has been deleted.  slack9999 | 07/13/06
Firefox is divorsed.  wimmendorf@... | 01/22/08

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