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February 8th, 2006

'Dude'! The Mac Duo is almost $1000 more!

Posted by George Ou @ 12:32 am

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[Updated 2:00PM] Ok I know it’s been a while since the Dell dude was booked for Mary Jane, but I just couldn’t resist the title when I did a little comparison shopping for a PC Duo.  I found a nice little coupon code (6C$03$J1734MS?) worth $650 (when final price is more than $2,000) off a new Core Duo 1.83 GHz notebook from Dell but couldn’t find any coupons for the Mac 1.83 GHz Core Duo.  Since this is a typical coupon you’ll find every few weeks for Dell and it’s rare to find any kind of coupon for the Mac let alone one this large, I felt this was a fair comparison because it’s what consumers would generally pay in the real world.  If someone does find a Mac coupon, let me know and I’d be happy to update the pricing on the Mac.  One of our readers did point out that it is possible to get 5% coupons for Macs, so I’ve updated the Mac pricing.  This changes the discounted price difference to $942.  Others mentioned the 10% student discounts for Apple, but I didn’t use that since not everyone is qualified to use it whereas the Dell coupon is open to anyone.

Here are the specifications laid out below:

Dell Core Duo Mac Core Duo
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
17" XGA+ TFT* 15.4" 1440×900 TFT
1 GB 533 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM*
8x DVD±RW/CD-RW* 4x DVD±RW/CD-RW
NVidia GeForce Go 7800 256 MB* ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB
100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard 100GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard
Bluetooth Bluetooth
Intel 802.11 a/b/g Intel 802.11 a/b/g
$1,432* (with $650 off) $2,374 (with 5% off)

*Advantage

Apple lovers will always feel that the extra money is well spent and they will always believe they have the superior product.  PC shoppers with more realistic budgets will always prefer the cheaper product (with mostly superior specifications) that can run all of their existing software.  The difference is that the latter will always outnumber the former by more than 10 to 1.  Apple has always managed to charge a premium for their hardware because of superior branding and a diehard fan base, but they will always be priced out of the main stream.

A lot has changed in the last year with Apple Macintoshes running on an Intel Pentium M platform (which I predicted), but the more things change the more they stay the same.

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Are you trying to say  IT Scion | 02/09/06
Are you trying to say...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
no, they didnt  doh123 | 02/09/06
Huh?  IT Scion | 02/09/06
pc vs mac  djsirman@... | 02/08/06
Pokey old Intel?  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
AMD lacks Supply  nucrash | 02/08/06
Crystal Ball SAYS!  ppc-jock | 02/08/06
it's a blog  glocks out | 02/08/06
Short-sighted article  gr00vy0ne | 02/08/06
Uh...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
You do get what you pay for  voska | 02/08/06
I have to remember...  microwiz | 02/08/06
Apple Who Cares  JonathanSeer | 02/08/06
Seen a Mac lately?  tic swayback | 02/08/06
Yeah, and people wanted VCR over Laserdisks  GoPower | 02/08/06
No one defends a PC  nucrash | 02/08/06
????????? Macs have more options!!!  MacGeek2121 | 02/08/06
PC Total Cost of Ownership  kirk@... | 02/08/06
PC Total Cost of Ownership  Protagonistic | 02/08/06
Well put, kirkrr!  jaws_z | 02/08/06
Yeah!  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Good joke  TonyMcS | 02/08/06
im pretty sure Mac usage is already over 5%  doh123 | 02/09/06
So..  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Got a link to back that up?  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Experience Counts??  kirk@... | 02/10/06
Sure...  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
I don't believe those TCO figures ...  mwagner@... | 05/09/06
Lame comparison  kenny@... | 02/08/06
The question is....  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
My tin can & string is better than yours  jtmkt@... | 02/08/06
Dell Coupons  Kris_Tuttle | 02/08/06
The latter is 10 times faster?  murdock@... | 02/08/06
Re-read the blog please  george_ou | 02/08/06
Not only that...  nucrash | 02/08/06
Mac AND PC user here  GSavage777 | 02/08/06
Amen!  emedinajr | 02/08/06
If you knew how to use a PC...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
I can prove my point  GSavage777 | 02/09/06
Pickle, assume =  GSavage777 | 02/09/06
Good one.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
why would they upgrade their pentium IIIs if they run XP just fine  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Because they're slow at other applications.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
I can't show you the skip-full of pentium IIIs I saw  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
That's fine.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Stop, please, you are embarrassing yourself  NonZealot | 02/09/06
pickle and nonzealot with the old windows is so easy to use but ......  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Windows is easy to use.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Confused  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
You would be.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
You like to insult people  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
You do too...  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
apology accepted apology given  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Quick Time is not free  voska | 02/09/06
Even the paid version...  Anton Philidor | 02/09/06
people dissing quicktime???  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
You just have so many statistics!  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
here you go  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Thanks.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
read further in the article  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
I did.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Well the article said 70% and hinted the figure was higher  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
WMP is free, chapo.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Not for me  tic swayback | 02/09/06
Oh shuckers.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Or...  tic swayback | 02/10/06
Well...  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
I hate advertising disguised as a blog...  packer44@... | 02/08/06
"cool factor" ?? More like... "Fool Factor..."  beauxscott | 02/08/06
MacBook  robmadden | 02/08/06
What?!?  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
I love my Mac  hmw46 | 02/08/06
Times I've had to de-bug my Windows boxES = 0  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
exactly "o get firewalls, antivirus, and antispyware"  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Hah.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Please, just stop it  NonZealot | 02/10/06
dell mcafee has a trial license  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Waste his life?  NonZealot | 02/10/06
Go ahead and point out when I couldn't back up a statement.  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Not unless you specifically select that.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Where have you refuted anything I said?  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
About uh... every time.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
Oh, and uh...  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
people who see an apple like it and buy it are right  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Go with what you want. That wasn't in dispute.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Alright.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
You're one of those I love Microsoft guys  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
No, I respect Microsoft. I even respect Apple.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
then in the main we agree  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Dude???  jaws_z | 02/08/06
Difference between 'dude' and dude  george_ou | 02/08/06
Actually - you're wrong  j.m.galvin | 02/08/06
'Dude' is used in subject line for compatibility issues  george_ou | 02/08/06
And we appreciate RSS  nucrash | 02/08/06
English major?  radamus | 02/09/06
You grammatists are all wrong  dan8877 | 02/08/06
Oh boy! Save a grand and get headaches!  swoodworks | 02/08/06
Macintosh is a tool!  MacGeek2121 | 02/08/06
Bet Mac can't match Snap-on's warranty!  ajole | 02/08/06
Windows does color fine?  j.m.galvin | 02/08/06
You're arguing with people that thought  GoPower | 02/08/06
Hmm, is it the OS or is it..  magpie_z | 02/08/06
Your stupity is ASTOUNDING  j.m.galvin | 02/09/06
That's not helpful  doormat | 02/09/06
Some differences  j.m.galvin | 02/09/06
I stand corrected....  magpie_z | 02/09/06
Bet Mac can't match Snap-on's warranty!  Protagonistic | 02/08/06
I have a very old iMac w/ OSX  GSavage777 | 02/09/06
That's very interesting!  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
"I, on the other hand, built"  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Of course they do.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
why don't windows pcs come pre-secured then  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
They do.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
if " isn't that hard to secure your cheaper PC at no extra cost." then.....  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Some are, some aren't.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
You don't get it  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
I'm afraid I do.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Ticked off  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
You're right!  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
i'm happy for you  hipparchus2001 | 02/11/06
Did I say I ONLY play games?  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
Is animation your job? Or making films?  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
One comment - 500 patches per year or 15  david_c | 02/08/06
Have you actually counted the patches?  george_ou | 02/08/06
Age of OS  tic swayback | 02/08/06
What bugs?  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Too many to count  nucrash | 02/09/06
How peculiar.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Apparently you don't do enough..  nucrash | 02/09/06
Maybe not.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
I guess you could start here  tic swayback | 02/09/06
I didn't say they didn't...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
20 minutes for you....  tic swayback | 02/10/06
Google is your friend.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Pentium M not 2  sarteano@... | 02/08/06
Look at Acer before Dell  rstcomp | 02/08/06
Ah, Dell bashers.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Dude....You don't get it  coop77 | 02/08/06
Yeah.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
DUDE, I hate my Dell, Love my Mac!  usc1801 | 02/08/06
Apple Adds Value, Dell Discounts  tony@... | 02/08/06
You pay for a total machine.  supoman | 02/08/06
What is a coupon code and where do i get one?  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Quit complaining about the coupon  george_ou | 02/08/06
Wasn't clear to me.  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Here either. Coupons/Rebates suck  The Reverend | 02/08/06
Uh...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
out of interest why are you building your own PCs if dells are so good  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
I enjoy it.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
personal experience can't negate the lesson of the market  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Neither can baseless assertions.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Oh, and, benchmarks, as promised.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Take a look at Apple's quarterly results. (you know filed with US gov).  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Yes, I call that baseless.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
OK fly over here and look at my Laptop and Mac mini  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
I'd rather not...  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
If you go to Dell store you enter the code you posted right?  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Apple, Starbucks, Four Seasons, BMW  vmirchan | 02/08/06
Pricing limiting market  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Not strictly price  tic swayback | 02/08/06
of course you get more  vmirchan | 02/08/06
Lets get something straight....  MacGeek2121 | 02/08/06
you are msising my point  vmirchan | 02/10/06
Message has been deleted.  Rustymemory | 02/08/06
OK,followed A_PIckle's instructions re dell coupon.  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
No, this is a 1 year warranty  george_ou | 02/08/06
Not implying anything, I'm saying my laptop was 90 day warranty.  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Heh, funny.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
So you have to go visit another URL to know if your Dell has an AGP slot?  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Dell's website is a design nightmare  tic swayback | 02/08/06
Sort of...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Good for you  tic swayback | 02/09/06
Well...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
No, you don't.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
okay already  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Yes, okay already.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
"Also if Dell gear was so good, they'd charge more." basic economics  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
Economics 101, chapo.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
I don't understand your argument here  hipparchus2001 | 02/11/06
I'm sorry to hear that.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
this is the crux "between two relatively equivalent computers."  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Indeed.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Dells and Apples are a "WASTE OF MONEY"  Cayble | 02/10/06
You forgot the software  my.subscriptions@... | 02/08/06
Hah!  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
please stop, you're killing me.   | 02/08/06
Great response. Really, it was funny.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Huh?!  JoeBob_z | 02/08/06
You guys keep saying that but I don't see it...  just^me | 02/09/06
Pardon?  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
What is the value of the SW, why did Cisco switch  bewell_z | 02/08/06
Shazam! How that the hardware is the same...  GoPower | 02/08/06
Your wrong,  John Faitakes | 02/08/06
Do your math again  george_ou | 02/08/06
Read the specs again  kirk@... | 02/08/06
How about this....  nucrash | 02/08/06
Don't forget the software comparison  tic swayback | 02/08/06
George is a Bright Guy  nucrash | 02/08/06
C'mon, we don't need to go there  george_ou | 02/08/06
I know, that's why I run FreeBSD  nucrash | 02/08/06
Uh...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
No knowledge of Windows???  nucrash | 02/09/06
No.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Yes...  nucrash | 02/09/06
No! Just compare the MacBook Pro to a Dell Pro system.  MacGeek2121 | 02/08/06
Not the screen rez again  george_ou | 02/08/06
bahahah  nucrash | 02/08/06
Are you RETARDED?!?!?  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Dude, Your an idiot  nucrash | 02/08/06
No brainer...  just^me | 02/09/06
'Dude'! The Mac Duo is almost $1000 more!  Protagonistic | 02/08/06
How much is iPhoto for the Dell  vidyman | 02/08/06
Well...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Uhhh, that's what happens when you've never used a Mac  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Well..  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Uhhh, that's what happens when you've never used a Mac  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Oh, and uh...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
"Daddy, what's this?"  emedinajr | 02/08/06
"Daddy, why the hell don't you have a firewall?"  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
because I'm not an anal retentive wasting all my time looking at cpu speeds  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Well, okay.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
What a sweet story  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Hey!  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Stop it  D-T-Schmitz | 02/09/06
Meaning  D-T-Schmitz | 02/09/06
It is worth it  debray | 02/08/06
Qualify that.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Back in 2000, I paid over $2500 for a Dell Pentium Celeron 466MHz  idealab | 02/08/06
Hmm.  scorchio75 | 02/08/06
pc for high end gaming  hipparchus2001 | 02/08/06
Frankly...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
I rigged a PS2 up in the car with a screen for my kids  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Great.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
SOCOM seals is pretty good  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Pay for it up front or later  Walps | 02/08/06
So? What's the big deal?  ProFab_z | 02/08/06
Hah!  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Re: Hah!  ProFab_z | 02/08/06
For sure...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
macs...  swisswuff | 02/09/06
ROTFLMFAO!  ProFab_z | 02/09/06
Yeah...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
surprising osx servers are selling so well  hipparchus2001 | 02/10/06
No, I'm showing benchmarks.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
yeah  doh123 | 02/10/06
once again, refer to apple quarterly filings  hipparchus2001 | 02/11/06
Once again, refer to benchmarks and PC sales.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
why would it matter if they don't overtake Windows servers?  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
yeah, but you have to run Windows...  acmwallace | 02/08/06
Well, you're a Mac user then.  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Ummm, your butt's hanging out  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
I used Macs for a year.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
because no one pays $1000 more  doh123 | 02/09/06
Flawed logic.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
ive done price to price comapisons  doh123 | 02/10/06
Me too.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Have fun with your 64 bit OS and 32 bit CPU  IT Scion | 02/08/06
Uh, hate to break it to you  george_ou | 02/08/06
Not only, but also..  nucrash | 02/09/06
For  IT Scion | 02/09/06
Right, however  nucrash | 02/09/06
I agree  IT Scion | 02/09/06
You just don't get it at all  IT Scion | 02/09/06
Hate to need to enlighten you  IT Scion | 02/09/06
nope  doh123 | 02/09/06
Nope  IT Scion | 02/09/06
ok, i went off memory too much  doh123 | 02/09/06
Let the excuses rip  IT Scion | 02/08/06
Uh...  A_Pickle | 02/08/06
Well  IT Scion | 02/08/06
Sorry  IT Scion | 02/08/06
I have to ask...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Umm  IT Scion | 02/09/06
AMD64 = 32bit with 64bit extentions... same as intel (nt)  doh123 | 02/09/06
Missing the point  IT Scion | 02/09/06
Yes and No  nucrash | 02/09/06
Implementation of Dual Core  nucrash | 02/09/06
PC Gaming?  Ralph Bergh | 02/08/06
Well  scorchio75 | 02/09/06
So George catches a break during Dell's Happy Hour!  JuggerNaut_z | 02/08/06
A "perty" interface for dumb people...  ConradPoitras@... | 02/08/06
More than just perty!  JuggerNaut_z | 02/08/06
So sorry your wrong.  castle1914 | 02/09/06
Actually, you are.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Do I sense some bitterness?  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
You don't know what you're talking about.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Speaking of dumb people....  nucrash | 02/09/06
Agreed. grin (nt)  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
I think technically FreeBSD isn't unix  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Mac still better - formula flawed  rob.j.wellington | 02/08/06
And...?  ConradPoitras@... | 02/08/06
What he's saying...  just^me | 02/08/06
You Have GOT to be kidding?!!!  tweedy54 | 02/09/06
That's a load of crap...  just^me | 02/08/06
You're joking, right?  MacGeek2121 | 02/08/06
No... Macs really are expensive.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
ummm, you are joking aren't you?  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Take note Pickle  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Sure... thing....  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Seriously Pickle head?  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Seriously.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Pay Attention  nucrash | 02/09/06
Heh.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Why did I use Pixar as an example?  nucrash | 02/09/06
Um...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Once again...  nucrash | 02/09/06
No... to be fair...  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Steve Jobs does not own Pixar, he owns Disney  JoeysLapTop | 02/11/06
Another commercial film made on a Mac: Tarnation  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
What is the educational discount worth???  79spitfire | 02/08/06
A Corvette is 60K more than a Snapper  JoeBob_z | 02/08/06
Meh and...  nucrash | 02/09/06
typical PC enthusiast response  regguls | 02/08/06
Woooo Hoooo!  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Typical ignorant person's choice.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Hey Mac! The Dell comes with no software  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Heh.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Uhhh, you're selling a DELL on FreeWare?!!  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Starting to sweat? Or was that supposed to be a point?  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Don't settle on inferiority just yet...  JoeysLapTop | 02/11/06
Alright.... now I will.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
well  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
Hah.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
It's called a watt to power ratio you bottle-necker!  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Oh yes, I know.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
PC world made so much headway, Apple decided to switch to our processors!  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Good one George  Richard Flude | 02/09/06
Hey Mac! The Dell comes with no software  JoeysLapTop | 02/09/06
Apples and Oranges  Barry Bourne | 02/09/06
Price  D-T-Schmitz | 02/09/06
So what you're saying is...  tic swayback | 02/09/06
Apples and Linux  NonZealot | 02/09/06
Anyone ever heard of iLife?  jwholder | 02/09/06
I love this one!  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
But you obviously don't love those "user" slobs  jwholder | 02/10/06
What user slobs?  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
These "user" slobs  jwholder | 02/10/06
Not seein' em... sorry...  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Your arguing that a "Ford" is better than "BMW"  castle1914 | 02/09/06
Stick it to the man!!! Just Build Your Own PC!!!  Brakiss | 02/09/06
yes yes yes  swisswuff | 02/09/06
Look, this is simply a Hardware Comparisson..more!  Adam Tate | 02/09/06
Let's talk resale value.  GSavage777 | 02/09/06
Yes, let's.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
nope  doh123 | 02/09/06
....so...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Or you could think like this....  nucrash | 02/09/06
I contest that.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
You have me on the Powerbook G4  nucrash | 02/10/06
Mercedes $20,000 more than Buick!! 'nuff said (nt)  el1jones | 02/09/06
Dell Dude Status  rfishwic | 02/09/06
Ironically Yes  nucrash | 02/09/06
Who needs him?  tic swayback | 02/09/06
This is true  nucrash | 02/09/06
Forget this whole argument  msdead | 02/09/06
DUDE! you forgot the SOFTWARE!  bellboy | 02/09/06
Have you ever used any of it?  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Have YOU tried it?  gudin | 02/14/06
Yeah.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
Professional laptop, vs discount coupon code home user laptop?  doh123 | 02/09/06
So.... what you're saying is...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Think of it in Business Terms.  nucrash | 02/09/06
Of course.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
what im saying is...  doh123 | 02/10/06
and  doh123 | 02/10/06
That's ridiculous.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
All talk, emotion, and stubborn ignorance  JoeysLapTop | 02/11/06
That about sums up your post, yes.  A_Pickle | 02/11/06
Gfroce 7800 is not free and so the bluetooth  starunited | 02/12/06
We're looking at what matters -- Total overall price.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Another Pickle?  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Up for another round? But of course.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Equivalence?  jefmud | 02/09/06
Partially...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Amen Brotha!!!  nucrash | 02/09/06
What did you expect..youre reading ZDNET!  jarod0101 | 02/09/06
Ooh, classy!  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Things you'll need to do  tic swayback | 02/09/06
Why should I do that?  nucrash | 02/09/06
Interesting...  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Amen to that  nucrash | 02/10/06
no offensive remarks  hipparchus2001 | 02/12/06
True dat...  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
You mean they actually write stuff?  nucrash | 02/09/06
Balanced  David Solberg | 02/09/06
What?  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Have you used any of iLife?  tic swayback | 02/09/06
I have.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
Dell vrs Apple on Model Releases  nucrash | 02/09/06
Right...  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
How is this possible  nucrash | 02/10/06
Wow  tic swayback | 02/10/06
Thanks  tic swayback | 02/10/06
Alrighty.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
I'll clarify my remarks  David Solberg | 02/10/06
Feels contrived  Sxooter_z | 02/09/06
Escaping Apple...  Anton Philidor | 02/09/06
Responded to Apple, predatory monopolist? post  Anton Philidor | 02/09/06
Nothing New Here.  richdave | 02/09/06
Actually it's not that much cheaper  AndrewH_z | 02/09/06
Thanks.  A_Pickle | 02/09/06
indisputably better? not really  doh123 | 02/10/06
Well uh... yes, really.  A_Pickle | 02/10/06
Some clarification  pairof9s | 02/14/06
Yes. Indeed.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
Though you make a good argument  nucrash | 02/09/06
lifestyle  0369 | 02/09/06
false analogies and other stuff  MacKeyser | 02/10/06
The difference is "intellectual"!  Dageezer | 02/10/06
Why Macs Suck  john public | 02/10/06
have anything real to say?  doh123 | 02/10/06
what?  MacKeyser | 02/10/06
addendum  MacKeyser | 02/10/06
Yep.....Tribal Wisdom..  Brich | 02/11/06
the "typical user"  MacKeyser | 02/13/06
Completely Agree  gudin | 02/14/06
You are so wrong it hurts  NonZealot | 02/14/06
Did you read the post?  gudin | 02/14/06
Huh???  Brich | 02/14/06
Then Mac Zealots are idiots, you proved it  NonZealot | 02/14/06
You would.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
If only the Dell came with a modern OS . . .  activist2278 | 02/11/06
Ha ha :)) that's good!  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Hilarious.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
extras  greenwizard88 | 02/11/06
Please, add that up to $1,000.  A_Pickle | 02/12/06
Reading Your Numerous Posts...  Brich | 02/12/06
See ya Picklemeister  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Speed - Apple vs PC  jshager | 02/13/06
In Service  JoeysLapTop | 02/13/06
Bye!  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Please, continue to.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
You Admit...  Brich | 02/13/06
Yeah...  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Unfortunately...  Brich | 02/13/06
I disagree.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
nuke and install times for xp  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Useless article  mbrierley | 02/12/06
viruses can be rampant  richvball44 | 02/12/06
ok  richvball44 | 02/12/06
the G force 7800 gt is not free.. $299 more and Bluetooth is not free.  starunited | 02/12/06
The Cost of Sanity  philscbx@... | 02/12/06
...is $499.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
So many problems with this post.  JakAttak | 02/13/06
Apples vs Dells  Rick56 | 02/13/06
Wow.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Wrong  SquishyParts | 02/13/06
Right.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
No software comparison  dsjove | 02/13/06
Sooo... $79.00? (nt)  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
iLife comparable software?  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/13/06
Since we are looking at coupons  SquishyParts | 02/13/06
OH MY GOD.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Simply FALSE comparison!  sierradragon | 02/13/06
Argh.  A_Pickle | 02/13/06
Just stop it  NonZealot | 02/14/06
It's fun!  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
10.3 to 10.4  gudin | 02/14/06
...was $129 terribly spent. Oh wait, you didn't have much choice....  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
Security through obscurity  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
It's damn near fact.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
POST 741!  An_Axe_to_Grind | 02/13/06
actually try to match ALL the features  torncanvas | 02/13/06
Option for option.....somehow doesn't add up!?  morrelll | 02/13/06
Ok, SO I went and took the challenge....  ebernet | 02/13/06
What a writer!  interlink69 | 02/14/06
He's more of one than you.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
read this ..  zakkiest | 02/14/06
Dude, learn to do your math!  macdragonfl | 02/14/06
The price difference is...  wizzzer | 02/14/06
Updated specs and ignored features.  Christopher Wrobel | 02/14/06
Time to redo your comparison  Jens T. | 02/14/06
I'd like to see it too  discodon | 02/14/06
Price Correction, 1.83 Ghz is now selling for $1999  laurence_rooks | 02/14/06
It's not about hardware - but software  mrmikey@... | 02/14/06
How long can you guys push that argument?  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
It's the OS and the Software..  Brich | 02/14/06
I see.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
Price to Performance...  Brich | 02/15/06
Haha.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
Macs are more secure...  Brich | 02/15/06
Whoops! There is no $2,499 1.83Ghz MacBook Pro.  Ulfhednar | 02/14/06
The 1.83Ghz Model is only $1999 you dope.  Ulfhednar | 02/14/06
Wow.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
dope was too strong, but...  gudin | 02/14/06
You get what you pay for...  Philly_K | 02/14/06
there isn't much of a price difference  gudin | 02/14/06
No -- but the PC is cheaper. And better. Still.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
see what I mean  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Okay, yes. Hardware isn't everything, but when it's debated, I'll be there.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
its still $1000 more.....  radman53 | 02/14/06
No, it isn't.  gudin | 02/14/06
Yeah. 'Tis.  A_Pickle | 02/14/06
Clueless....  ebernet | 02/14/06
...yeah, you kind of are.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
Exactly  gudin | 02/15/06
Hah!  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
undeniably superior hardware  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
....Oh, and...  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
Be honest with your comparaisons  spotvin | 02/14/06
That's ridiculous.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
You're hysterical.  gudin | 02/15/06
Thanks. You too.  A_Pickle | 02/15/06
An end to this stupid debate  rottweilerus | 02/15/06
So many errors in this one pickle  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
and you're doing it with the LCD as well  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Hmm.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Macintosh is not a computer, its a religion.  MacAtheist | 02/15/06
death to the infidel  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
What?!! A rational voice with a Mac???!!!  MacAtheist | 02/15/06
coupon is expired - price is almost the same as MacPro  storo | 02/15/06
Dell junkware and hibernation  hipparchus2001 | 02/15/06
Apple software?  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Yeah.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Again...Not just the OS...  Hard Cider | 02/15/06
You can't ignore the Dell's features.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Discounts... 10% =)  tajhq | 02/16/06
Haha.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Actually, the Mac is $1200+ for me!  easyeric | 02/16/06
Sorta....  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Correction taken, but still $1200!?  easyeric | 02/16/06
Yeah.  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Cost?  Gary the Writer | 03/03/06
apples with apples  Alireza A. | 02/16/06
And uh...  A_Pickle | 02/16/06
Can't cat files/ must not be a Windows User  jimhurley@... | 03/02/06
Heresay, Heresay, Heresay  Lucas Lamonds | 02/16/06
Good lord.  A_Pickle | 02/17/06
smaller pc laptops are more expensive  hipparchus2001 | 02/17/06
WAY smaller PC laptops.  A_Pickle | 02/17/06
Mac users need to chill  peopleAlwaysDividedWhy | 02/17/06
As a PC and Mac user: smaller PC laptops cost more.  hipparchus2001 | 02/17/06
a very tiny PC laptop  hipparchus2001 | 02/17/06
Yeah.  A_Pickle | 02/17/06
I mean look at this crappy Dell  hipparchus2001 | 02/17/06
Hey...  A_Pickle | 02/17/06
OK so we've arrived at a consensus I guess  hipparchus2001 | 02/20/06
BMW does not make special sales events either  FirstNLastN | 02/21/06
A Truer Comparison - Weight Matters  email@... | 02/23/06
A Truer Comparison - Weight Matters  email@... | 02/23/06
And worth every penny!  davez_z | 03/02/06
INDIAN SUPPORT? I GO DOWN THE STREET TO FIX MY MAC!  footeking | 03/02/06
It is called "marketing"  Gary the Writer | 03/03/06
Hardware smallest component of computer cost!  AWolfe_II_z | 03/03/06
You might wanna check your facts again  Species8472 | 12/21/06

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