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April 8th, 2007

Why Do People Hate Building Desktop Applications?

Posted by Ryan Stewart @ 1:38 am

Categories: Adobe, Ajax, Apollo, Microsoft, Rich Internet Applications, WPF, Windows Presentation Foundation

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After reading Paul Graham's inflammatory post about how Microsoft is dead, Simeon Bateman and I got into a little back and forth over IM about the merits of what he was saying. I tend to agree with Don Dodge, about both the title of the piece and the "real meaning" of the piece (his update response). But Simeon said something that I think a lot of people feel and is very relevant to the Rich Internet Application discussion:

Simeon: And I think paul is right on with the desktop thing. The only reason I would ever consider building an application for the desktop is because apollo lets me do it easily like a web application.

I would never NEVER build a desktop application.

The desktop thing he is referring to is when Paul says:

Gmail also showed how much you could do with web-based software, if you took advantage of what later came to be called "Ajax." And that was the second cause of Microsoft's death: everyone can see the desktop is over. It now seems inevitable that applications will live on the web—not just email, but everything, right up to Photoshop. Even Microsoft sees that now.

I'm not even going to address Paul's shortsightedness because I'll just get angry, but I wanted to put Simeon's comment in perspective. At least Simeon realizes there is some benefit to building desktop applications, he just doesn't see why its worth it to go through the effort. And he's right, building desktop applications has been hard. It's a pain; You have to create a version for each operating system, and most of them look ugly when you're finished.

As Simeon mentions, this is where Apollo comes in. Really for the first time ever, we can build good looking desktop applications that are cross platform and use rapid development technologies and techniques. Desktop applications are becoming as easy to build as web applications, and that's going to change a lot of things. One of the reasons the web took off is because it's really easy to build applications. It was also very easy to see what people were doing and hack away to create your own stuff.

Apollo may prove to be the catalyst in really getting people to use the best platform (web or desktop) for their requirements. Microsoft has also made it much easier to build good looking desktop applications with Blend and Windows Presentation Foundation. The XAML/C# tandem makes for some quick dev turnaround time, but cross platform is a big deal, and people coming from the web background aren't going to be keen on going to a windows only platform.

But I think RIAs help the entire software ecosystem, from web developers to desktop developers. In the end, with RIAs we can quickly create powerful, well-designed applications that focus on experience. The easier that is, the more developers we'll have chomping at the bit regardless of the medium or specific technology. Then we have more innovation, more competition, and better experiences for the users.

Ryan StewartRyan Stewart, a Rich Internet Application developer and industry analyst, recently joined Adobe's Platform Team as a Rich Internet Application Evangelist. full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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What is wrong with YOU people.
Are you nuts. Desktop applications are not DEAD... And every application can't be done over the internet. There are a lot of applications that communicate with other equipment, serial ports, propri... (Read the rest)
Posted by: owgur2000@... Posted on: 11/02/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Apollo: not so good looking  bellavite | 04/08/07
RE:Apollo: not so good looking  ryanstewart | 04/08/07
RE:Apollo: not so good looking  bellavite | 04/08/07
Clarification  misesfan | 04/08/07
RE: Clarification  ryanstewart | 04/09/07
Web apps will always take a back seat  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/08/07
RE: Web apps will always take a back seat  ryanstewart | 04/08/07
Limited in adoption.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/08/07
Tell that to business  Suicida| | 04/08/07
yes there is some uptake  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/08/07
Do People who use web browser's all the time really know what a desktop app  DonBurnett | 04/08/07
You really set the ecord straight!  MarlonSmith | 04/09/07
Microsoft have sucked all the money and life out of the desktop market  David Mohring | 04/08/07
It's a joke right?  TonyMcS | 04/08/07
Desktop apps are anything but dead  P. Douglas | 04/09/07
Apollo is Just another closed API  Resuna | 04/09/07
Why develop for the Web?  davidmartinomalley | 04/09/07
Bla Bla Bla...  mario.gazzo@... | 04/09/07
Servers are cheap and plentiful, desktops are expensive and scarce  Leo.Kuznetsov@... | 04/09/07
truly you are as the buddah  tom@... | 04/09/07
So what happens...  Ginevra | 04/09/07
Desktop apps are alive and well, thank you  chas_2 | 04/09/07
The browser isn't a development environment  bellavite | 04/09/07
Desktop User Interfaces aren't hard anymore  leovernazza | 04/09/07
RE:Clarification  misesfan | 04/09/07
What is wrong with YOU people.  owgur2000@... | 11/02/07

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