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September 8th, 2006

Vista and antitrust confusion

Posted by John Carroll @ 8:10 am

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Microsoft has suggested that they might have to delay the rollout of Vista in Europe unless they learn soon whether the EU will require design changes in order to pass antitrust muster. In response, an EU representative had this to say:

It is not up to the Commission to give Microsoft a green light before Vista is put on the market; it is up to Microsoft to accept and implement its responsibilities as a near-monopolist to ensure full compliance with EU competition rules.

That response misses something pretty fundamental about the system of laws known as "antitrust." Antitrust is NOT like laws against murder, or theft, or other "crimes" laws have been written to prevent. It’s pretty easy to determine whether or not someone has been killed, or something stolen.

Antitrust isn’t like that. Antitrust laws don’t provide ANY guidance as to a standard by which to judge whether or not a company is a "monopoly," nor any rules - much less limits - governing what should be done once a company is declared a monopoly. On the determination of monopoly side, it all comes down to market definition, the exact shape of which is up to the prosecution (though they have to prove the validity of that definition in court). In America, market’s have been defined in such a way as to block the merger of shoe companies out of concern that the merged entity would have partial monopolies in some small towns. On the remedy side, penalties can range from a simple fine through a complex micro-managed breakup in the style of AT&T or Standard Oil.

Complicating the situation is that in the cut-throat world of global markets, you are dealing with companies that kill each other on a regular basis. They create exclusive deals with partners, they actively attempt to undercut the price of rivals, they say bad things about competitors in the press (part of the interflow of information, and something the other side does in return), and do things that generally wouldn’t get you invited to little Timmy’s birthday party…and these are considered some of the good aspects of competition.

This is why antitrust REQUIRES someone to make a determination. Such a determination does not fall in and of itself from the text of current antitrust law.

I’m repeating myself, but it’s a point worth repeating: Antitrust REQUIRES that someone make a call as to who is or isn’t a monopoly, and what is or isn’t permissible activity of that monopolist (whether the definitions and constraints should be so loose is a different question, but people who’ve read my opinion on this matter can guess my thoughts on that). In America, that determination is largely worked out in the courts and a judge (in this case, Kollar-Kotelly) is responsible for oversight. In the European Union, it is worked out internally by the Commission then passed through a legal appeals process at the Court of First Instance. Either way, however, SOMEONE is determining what is considered permissible.

This is the situation apart from any antitrust ruling. The nature of a ruling can add its own complications.

In America, Microsoft was given the right to include, for the most part, whatever it wants in Windows (leaving questions of design with software engineers, in other words), provided they ensured that core interoperability protocols used were fully documented and alternatives could quickly and easily be chosen that override the defaults. Though there is of necessity some imprecision in the ruling (oversight is still required), it is reasonably well defined such that Microsoft mostly knows what it needs to do. In Europe, however, the EU Commission ruled that, along with documentation requirements for key interoperability protocols, they had to offer a version of Windows WITHOUT Media Player.

Ignore for the moment that no one bought the Media Player-free version of Windows. Why Media Player? Why not Internet Explorer? Why not MSN Messenger? Why not Microsoft’s TCP/IP networking stack, the inclusion of which put companies such as Trumpet Winsock out of business with the arrival of Windows 95? What about standard HTTP libraries, something someone else could do separately? How low in the software stack should we go?

No, saying "it’s obvious" isn’t good enough.

What was it about Media Player that made it different than any other inclusion, and how can Microsoft, on its own, generalize from it so that they know what they can or cannot include in Vista?

Basically, the EU Commission created a ruling that is EXTREMELY hard to use as a foundation for self-regulation by the accused. This yields a situation where the EU Commission is OBLIGATED to be the gatekeeper post-ruling in ways the US government does not have to be.

If the EU doesn’t want to be the gatekeeper, then it needs to create a ruling that does not force it to act as such, something that, at a minimum, should include declaring that Microsoft has the right to design its own software (documentation requirements, on the other hand, are reasonable). Until that happens, the Commission needs to understand that it IS in the driver’s seat with respect to whether or not Vista gets rolled out in Europe at the same time as the rest of the world.

My opinion, of course, not Microsoft’s…

John CarrollJohn Carroll has delivered his opinion on ZDNet since the last millennium. Since May 2008, he is no longer a Microsoft employee. He is currently working at a unified messaging-related startup. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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ex post facto crime  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
I would say...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Courts and company breakups.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Market power is defined  Edward Meyers | 09/08/06
General to particular.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
The Clayton Act  Edward Meyers | 09/08/06
Read it again.  osreinstall | 09/09/06
Read it again - hopefully with better formatting.  osreinstall | 09/09/06
Paragraph doesn't end there  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
You missed it.  osreinstall | 09/10/06
Re: market power is defined  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
No,It serves your purpose  Edward Meyers | 09/08/06
Re: No  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Slick Language  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Re: Slick Language  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
Absolutly not true  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Re: Absolutely  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
"... foreclose competition ..."  Anton Philidor | 09/11/06
Not quite.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Refusal to head warnings  Robert Crocker | 09/08/06
Lessons learned.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
I agree mostly with this...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Preposterous!  Roger Ramjet | 09/08/06
If the market is all software, ...  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
When you blurr the lines between  Roger Ramjet | 09/11/06
Not about law, about behavior.  mwagner@... | 09/08/06
Not that behavior  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Multiple cases Multiple Complaints  Edward Meyers | 09/08/06
Monopolies  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Don't other laws work this way as well  tic swayback | 09/08/06
Fair use applies to everyone.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Excellent analogy  rapson | 09/08/06
The child may know laws applying to Roberts only...  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
I don't agree  tic swayback | 09/08/06
Most "companies are automatically immune..."  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Anti-trust includes more than  Edward Meyers | 09/08/06
Not true  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Not true (with correct link)  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Not true (links don't work)  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
The Clayton Act does more than that  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Re: The clayton act...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
Most laws apply only to the minority  tic swayback | 09/09/06
"... fuzzy laws ..." is right.  Anton Philidor | 09/11/06
Not really  tic swayback | 09/11/06
You're dead on. It's ex post facto, which is unconstitutional  PB_z | 09/08/06
That's exactly...  rapson | 09/08/06
Real was the company that complained.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Re: complaint  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
The EC - not the EU - meeting its purpose.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
You have the wrong target/company.  B.O.F.H. | 09/08/06
Two "violations", two penalties.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Simple solution  Robert Crocker | 09/08/06
Huh?  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Yes you are  Robert Crocker | 09/09/06
No I'm not (really)  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/09/06
John  Robert Crocker | 09/10/06
Rob  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
That's essentially what they did  Robert Crocker | 09/11/06
In the US, a court decision ...  mwagner@... | 09/08/06
For reference.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Europe is *hardly* a blip....  rock06r | 09/09/06
All it takes is ethical behavior  Roger Ramjet | 09/08/06
Re: all it takes...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Backward compatibility.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
Interesting  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/09/06
Enforced proprietary  Roger Ramjet | 09/11/06
Obvious test  Robert Crocker | 09/09/06
Why not?  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/09/06
BS  Robert Crocker | 09/10/06
Re: BS  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
Media Player != Windows Media Player  Robert Crocker | 09/11/06
Media capabilities.  Anton Philidor | 09/11/06
Real player only default for 10 plays  barsteward | 09/11/06
I was trying to be more general  Roger Ramjet | 09/11/06
No one else is playing on ...  mwagner@... | 09/08/06
Good article, John!  mwagner@... | 09/08/06
Back to basics - again  Richard Flude | 09/08/06
Side notes.  Anton Philidor | 09/08/06
You're being charitable;-)  Richard Flude | 09/08/06
Okay, now I've had it  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/08/06
Gee and I feel terrible  Richard Flude | 09/08/06
Dude, why not gbet Linux  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/06
Expectations  seosamh_z | 09/09/06
Typical of the quality being criticised  Richard Flude | 09/10/06
Nice one..  seosamh_z | 09/11/06
John, you can't change a "donkey" hole  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/06
I guess that's why  Robert Crocker | 09/10/06
"Wah! The mean man won't leave me alone."  phburks | 09/12/06
No, the test is simple.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/06
You still don't understan how Anti-Trust law works?  B.O.F.H. | 09/09/06
Not to mention Novell Started the EU Case  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Why the EU is terrified of stating what they want.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/09/06
The Protocols were the biggest issue  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Price controls?  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
Perhaps you protest to much?  Edward Meyers | 09/10/06
Re: protestations  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/10/06
Customization = more money  seosamh_z | 09/11/06
RE: The protocols  barsteward | 09/11/06
Interesting point  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/11/06
Give the EC the benefit of the doubt.  Anton Philidor | 09/11/06
EU incompetence  zzz1234567890 | 09/11/06
is ms a monopoly or not? you say...  amj2006 | 09/13/06
Re: Is ms...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Funny ...  chekmarx | 09/14/06
Re: Funny  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 09/15/06
Microsft started out with a Unix OS: Xenix..  B.O.F.H. | 09/14/06

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