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December 21st, 2006

Ideal DRM

Posted by John Carroll @ 11:59 am

Categories: General, Hardware Infrastructure, Open Source, PC Forum, Personal Technology, Security, Software Infrastructure

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Bill Gates recently commented that copy protections for digital media are too complex for most consumers.

In the end of the day incentive systems (for artists) make a difference…

…But we don't have the right thing here in terms of simplicity or interoperability.

An ideal DRM system, at least from a consumer standpoint, isn't hard to imagine. Basically, it needs to allow consumers to use their media however they want, whether it's streamed within the home, copied to another device owned by them, played on a device at a sister's house, or shared (to a certain extent) with that sister for a period of time. The DRM would still block the ability to post protected digital content on file trading networks, but so long as its playable within a consumer's local media playback ecosystem, most consumers could care less.

This would confine objections to DRM to those who have an ideological dislike for the concept of intellectual property. Think about it. If you could use your media on ANY device, how would the fact that you couldn't post that media on your website for public download affect you (something you shouldn't be doing anyway)?

DRM, in other words, should be invisible. Is that even possible?

I think it is, though we have to dispense to a certain extent with hardware-locking concepts that typify current attempts at controlling how consumers use digital media in favor of something more closely tied to an individual person. Technical complexities aside, however, even if a simple and universal solution could be devised, the universality would be undermined by the fact that there's money to be made from licensing a universal DRM standard. This leads to fragmentation and incompatible implementations among companies competing to become the DRM standard - basically, what we have today.

The open source community is no help in this regard. Besides the fact that many in the community oppose DRM in principle (hence anti-DRM verbiage being added to GPLv3), open source is no more likely to avoid a fragmented solution. Fill a room with 100 developers, and you'll get 100 opinions about the best way to write a piece of software.

Philips managed to make a universal digital standard with its CD format, albeit one that didn't need to contend with the complexities of DRM. That success, however, does give clues as to the shape a successful DRM standard might take: it must be cheap and easy to implement on any device.

That's why the open source community would have a decent chance in the DRM space were they to get past their anti-DRM biases and make something truly "invisible." One thing the open source community could ensure was that the result would be free (as in cost). That, however, is like asking a pacifist to devise a theory of a just war. Besides, it's unlikely content companies would accept a format backed by people who take a dim view of intellectual property. So, even if the community could devise a solution, it's questionable whether it would be selected by companies who create content that might be protected by such DRM technology.

This leaves the DRM field to proprietary companies.  The exact shape that technology will take is still a work in progress.  But if CD technology is any guide, at least the result will be cheap.

John CarrollJohn Carroll has delivered his opinion on ZDNet since the last millennium. Since May 2008, he is no longer a Microsoft employee. He is currently working at a unified messaging-related startup. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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try reading the law
Copyright law doesn't remove ownership it just restricts what you can do with a product you do own for the duration of the copyright.

In the case of Pay per View you don't own anything. But buy... (Read the rest)
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oh gawd more GPL digs  deaf_e_kate | 12/21/06
I'm not making that concern up...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
Security and DRM  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/06
Shouldn't write my responses so fast  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
... and nobody came?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/06
A system...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
That totally ignores Yagotta's point  dave.leigh@... | 12/27/06
Self-aware software.  Anton Philidor | 12/21/06
re: I'm not making.....  deaf_e_kate | 12/23/06
Factgs don't matter in this.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/27/06
So what you are saying is that...  B.O.F.H. | 12/28/06
re: So what you are saying  deaf_e_kate | 12/29/06
To sum up  Feldon | 12/21/06
Exactly  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
And there is your problem  Edward Meyers | 12/25/06
Thanks for explaining why better DRM is needed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/27/06
There's no such thing as better DRM.  dave.leigh@... | 12/27/06
Good enough...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/28/06
What good is that  voska | 12/28/06
Perfect example of the wrong mindset  tic swayback | 12/28/06
...is not good enough.  dave.leigh@... | 12/29/06
The good old analogue hole  bportlock | 01/07/07
So what happens with the 1%  voska | 12/28/06
Precisely  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/06
Why consider alternative sources of DRM?  Anton Philidor | 12/21/06
Re: Why  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
DRM is never acceptable  voska | 12/22/06
DRM can be acceptable  mdemuth | 12/22/06
Re: DRM can be acceptable  none none | 12/26/06
Acceptable vs. Medieval DRM  dave.leigh@... | 12/27/06
One simple reason  voska | 12/28/06
Another reason  voska | 12/28/06
Love the sarcasm!  John Le'Brecage | 12/21/06
DRM not applicable...  John Le'Brecage | 12/21/06
"our" not "out"  John Le'Brecage | 12/21/06
Be honest  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
All right  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/21/06
Not hardly  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
FSSC  John Le'Brecage | 12/21/06
Fair point  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/22/06
Honestly...  John Le'Brecage | 12/24/06
Re: Honestly  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/24/06
Hilarious  Robert Crocker | 12/26/06
The AHRA, DMCA, and the DVDCAA all require this  Edward Meyers | 12/26/06
Were you intending...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/29/06
Not at all  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
Here's one  dave.leigh@... | 12/27/06
Sorry but BZZZT wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/27/06
Content OWNERS typically desire no DRM at all  Edward Meyers | 12/28/06
A law is needed...  Anton Philidor | 12/28/06
Re: A law is needed...  none none | 12/29/06
Further than that  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
I was arguing...  Anton Philidor | 12/29/06
We are mixingthe issues  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
Skirmishes and strategies.  Anton Philidor | 12/29/06
More profit from modernizing? Amen to that.  dave.leigh@... | 12/29/06
40 percent is nothing to sneeze about  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
I think not  dave.leigh@... | 12/29/06
Off topic: you know you work at a big company...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/21/06
In other words...  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
It could be worse  TrPrince | 12/26/06
That's assuming...  dave.leigh@... | 12/27/06
"Invisible DRM"  Anton Philidor | 12/21/06
There is no hope for DRM  P. Douglas | 12/22/06
I don't like...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/22/06
But it is not the job of merchants to enforce the law...  P. Douglas | 12/22/06
Merchants can do things...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/23/06
Using your analogy a bit...  ju1ce | 12/27/06
The underlying premise of DRM...  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Do what you like with the CD.  Anton Philidor | 12/22/06
Don't care about the CD  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Not exactly correct  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Madison, Federalist 43  Anton Philidor | 12/22/06
I stand corrected  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Be careful...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/22/06
Why pay foreigners...  Anton Philidor | 12/22/06
And thus Blackstone:  Anton Philidor | 12/22/06
2000-year copyrights  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Unfortunately, yes.  Anton Philidor | 12/22/06
Surprising response...  John L. Ries | 12/22/06
Re: Why...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/23/06
Because I said so.  Anton Philidor | 12/26/06
Re: Be careful...  none none | 12/30/06
Not Property  voska | 12/28/06
Government enforcement.  Anton Philidor | 12/29/06
The governemnt already passed such a law it's called the DMCA  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
Do you own the software you purchase?  Anton Philidor | 12/29/06
And when do you agree to this contract?  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
Now that's an interesting question, isn't it?  dave.leigh@... | 12/30/06
A great time to be a lawyer.  Anton Philidor | 01/02/07
Re: A great time to be a lawyer.  none none | 01/02/07
Negotiating the issue.  Anton Philidor | 01/03/07
More than twice as many states have passed anti-UCITA laws than UCITA  Edward Meyers | 01/03/07
Re: Negotiating the issue.  none none | 01/03/07
Excessive  Anton Philidor | 01/03/07
There are various assumptions a buyer...  Anton Philidor | 01/03/07
Re: There are various assumptions a buyer...  none none | 01/03/07
Quick sometimes isn't.  Anton Philidor | 01/05/07
DRM restrictions...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/22/06
However almost all DRM schemes exceed preventing infringement  Edward Meyers | 12/26/06
Good luck with that  tic swayback | 12/28/06
Yes...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/29/06
Orphaned works  tic swayback | 12/29/06
Re: Orphaned works  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/29/06
Flying pigs  tic swayback | 12/29/06
ROFLMAO!!  dave.leigh@... | 12/30/06
Re: Yes...  none none | 12/30/06
Great example  tic swayback | 12/31/06
To all.  Anton Philidor | 12/26/06
The quality of DRM  TrPrince | 12/26/06
Silly Column  tic swayback | 12/27/06
This other response  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/29/06
Choose one  tic swayback | 12/29/06
Re: Choose one  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 12/29/06
Impossibilities  tic swayback | 12/29/06
DRM is an enabler fro several entertainment businesses.  B.O.F.H. | 12/29/06
Charging for convenience  tic swayback | 12/29/06
DRM is used in combination with streaming.  B.O.F.H. | 12/29/06
Doesn't work though, does it?  tic swayback | 12/29/06
It has been working since about 10 years so far.  B.O.F.H. | 12/30/06
So you're saying it's a failure  tic swayback | 12/30/06
tic, it depends on how it is implemented and applied.  B.O.F.H. | 12/30/06
All it takes is one person  tic swayback | 12/30/06
What exactly do you believe they are tryting to do?  B.O.F.H. | 12/30/06
Go back to John Carrol's point  tic swayback | 12/31/06
And it absouloutly doesn't stop recording  Edward Meyers | 12/29/06
If you do a digital recordinmg, it is proteced.  B.O.F.H. | 12/30/06
Which goes back to DRM is not about stopping piracy  Edward Meyers | 12/30/06
try reading the law  voska | 01/09/07
Nice try but...  mobrien_12@... | 01/06/07
EMI abandons DRM  tic swayback | 01/08/07

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