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April 6th, 2007

Game consoles are evil

Posted by John Carroll @ 9:14 am

Categories: Games, General, Nintendo, PS3, PlayStation, Sony, Wii, XBOX, XBOX 360

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Richard Stallman is the godfather of the Free Software Movement. He is also maddeningly hard core in his beliefs, to the point where I wonder if he would allow doctors to work on him if the machines they were using run anything but open source software.

The following is an excerpt from an interview given after a speech in Brussels:

Q: One final question. We're seeing more and more devices, and I'm thinking specifically of games consoles — I know that my kids have one in the house — where there is no —

Richard Stallman: I wouldn't. You have to learn how to say no to your kids.

Q: That's true, that's true, I wouldn't deny it. Now, there is no free software at all for devices like this [correction: Yellow Dog supports some console(s)].

Richard Stallman: That's why there is no possible ethical way you could use one, and so you shouldn't have it.

Q: All right, I think I'll take the kids out on the bike more often.

Richard Stallman: That would be much better for them.

Boy, would I like to be a fly on the wall were Stallman to have to explain to his own son that line of reasoning (I have no idea as to Stallman's family status):

Richard Stallman, Jr: Dad, why can't I have a Nintendo Wii for Christmas?

Richard Stallman: Well, son, because Nintendo won't let me customize the software which runs on the game console, which is an unethical restriction on my freedom. I could no more buy that console than sell myself into slavery.

Richard Stallman, Jr: Huh? I just want to play Nintendo Sports.

Richard Stallman: But you can't modify the game to add new events, and you can't change the runtime environment to enable new features in your Wii controller. So, it's wrong to want to do that.

Richard Stallman, Jr: But I don't want to add new events to Nintendo Sports. I just want to play the game.

Richard Stallman: Tough noogies. I am your father. Go play outside.

Okay, I don't think Stallman would say "tough noogies," but you get the point. This is the exasperating thing about Richard Stallman's point of view. It's worth fighting for transparency where it matters. I think it would be valuable for voting machines to have a certain amount of source code transparency. But game consoles?

The economics of game consoles dictate that the machine is sold at a loss so that money can be made from game licensing. An open model would mean those machines would be MUCH more expensive. And you think the PS3, at $600.00, is expensive. Imagine if they had to sell it at full cost.

Game consoles are like a restaurant. When I dine at an Italian restaurant, I don't buy the right to bring my own food and cook it in their kitchen. I buy food that they decide to sell to me. Similarly, when I buy a game console, though I own the hardware, I don't purchase the ability to modify it. This is what allows me to buy that hardware for less than cost.

It's a trade, in other words, and no more unethical than buying food from a restaurant.

That, at least, is how I see it. I don't expect the godfather of free software to agree.

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People who know how to do such things as adding programs are the rarity and if there is no one who can sell them such a program to do with as they like as long as they don't market it, seems to me to ... (Read the rest)
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whats his take on commercial aviation  code_Warrior | 04/06/07
Richard Stallman on cell phones  genericman | 04/06/07
And did that cell phone have Linux embedded? (nt)  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
Stallman also says  code_Warrior | 04/06/07
I saw that.....it made me picture  xuniL_z | 04/08/07
"live cheaply"  jorwell | 04/10/07
There are several cell phones that use the Linux OS (NT)  nomorems | 04/06/07
John doesn't know the answer to any of those questions.  nomorems | 04/06/07
If only you passed English 101, you'd realize  code_Warrior | 04/09/07
Re: whats his take on commercial aviation  none none | 04/07/07
are you for real  Aussie_Troll | 04/08/07
Re: are you for real  none none | 04/08/07
Wow, Stallman and I actually agree  Suicida| | 04/08/07
Agree and yet disagree  Feldon | 04/06/07
Are you for real?  valinus_degor@... | 04/06/07
Are YOU for real?  nomorems | 04/06/07
You and Stallman should build your own then.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/06/07
what about ATM machines...  redtrain65 | 04/06/07
An Automatic Teller Machine "Machine" does not belong to him  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
But the account does belong to him...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
The account belongs to him...  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
Now I'm lost  valinus_degor@... | 04/06/07
Okay, so he rents the game as well  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
Don't worry John.  nomorems | 04/06/07
Oh look: No surprise here  John Zern | 04/06/07
Re: Okay, so he rents the game as well  none none | 04/08/07
Well, just for instance  xuniL_z | 04/08/07
Re: Well, just for instance  none none | 04/08/07
Re: But the account does belong to him...  none none | 04/07/07
As far as Stallman's conversation with his son  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
Many do not, whats your point?  balsover | 04/06/07
John is the clown...  nomorems | 04/06/07
Stallman have a son?  srobtjones@... | 04/06/07
Hurray for the Pretty People!  nomorems | 04/06/07
Not necessarily more expensive  rpmyers1 | 04/06/07
A couple corrections  Rokstar83 | 04/06/07
Well, strictly speaking...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
To clarify  Rokstar83 | 04/06/07
That holds rue for many items  John Zern | 04/06/07
You are correct and thats why...  Rokstar83 | 04/06/07
you buy a car its your hardware  Aussie_Troll | 04/08/07
I think you're all having a disconnect here . . .  JLHenry | 04/09/07
I'm sorry...  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
Okay  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
Absurd..  LazLong | 04/06/07
Why is it unethical?  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
Nothing obliges a customer...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
By the same token  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
In reference to Stallman's odd "thinking"  John Zern | 04/06/07
McDonalds would be a better analogy  John Zern | 04/06/07
XBox ownership is really a franchise?  John L. Ries | 04/07/07
Re: McDonalds would be a better analogy  none none | 04/07/07
The other consequence  eb276 | 04/06/07
Re: Well, strictly speaking...  none none | 04/07/07
Stallman does't pick his battles  rob@... | 04/06/07
Each to their own  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
Response welcome.  Anton Philidor | 04/07/07
Thank heavens for Stallman. Without him...  bportlock | 04/06/07
I'm pretty sure I know what you're saying here  mdsmedia | 04/06/07
Sometimes...  John CarrollZDNet Moderator | 04/06/07
Taking a stand  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
Really???  BFD | 04/06/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/06/07
Re: Say what?  none none | 04/07/07
If you can't grasp  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/07/07
Not buying it  eb276 | 04/06/07
There's a cutoff  rapson | 04/06/07
I'm really responding to all of the above, but...  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
No difference, crazed zealots abound.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/06/07
Apparently, I'm another  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
But that's not what you were arguing  eb276 | 04/06/07
Comparing RMS' principles to religion  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
Yes and No  eb276 | 04/06/07
History has a short memory  Patanjali | 04/07/07
I'll drink to that!!! (NT)  JLHenry | 04/09/07
Re: There's a cutoff  none none | 04/07/07
On re-reading what I wrote...  John L. Ries | 04/06/07
Ditto...  rapson | 04/09/07
Taking a stand!  John Zern | 04/06/07
Re: Sometimes...  none none | 04/07/07
Stallman is the real deal, its the other open source charlatans that are ..  zzz1234567890 | 04/06/07
What sort of nonsense is that?  balsover | 04/06/07
when you buy food  nyrgall | 04/06/07
No, you purchased a license to use it  balsover | 04/06/07
you're turning things upside down  nyrgall | 04/06/07
I want, I want, I want!!!  Patanjali | 04/07/07
Re: I want, I want, I want!!!  none none | 04/08/07
contract? what contract?  nyrgall | 04/09/07
Re: No, you purchased a license to use it  none none | 04/08/07
Tough nuts  kraterz | 04/08/07
This reminds me of Charlie and the Chocolate factory  georgeou | 04/06/07
ROTFL  John Zern | 04/06/07
I can just see Stallman Jr. with the braces strapped to his mouth, lol.  georgeou | 04/06/07
Never ever take meds...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/06/07
Re: Never ever take meds...  none none | 04/07/07
Let me say it SLOWLY  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/07/07
Let me say it SLOWLY  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/07/07
Let me say it SLOWLY  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/07/07
Re: Let me say it SLOWLY  none none | 04/07/07
Slower yet...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/08/07
RE: Slower yet...  none none | 04/08/07
So lets see you use it then...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/08/07
Re: So lets see you use it then...  none none | 04/08/07
And why do you believe that No_Ax_to_Grind will understand this?  B.O.F.H. | 04/08/07
Why bother giving him free publicity? He's nuts  j.m.galvin | 04/06/07
Red Hat is a fine example of a corporate business model  georgeou | 04/06/07
Please George...  IAHawkeye | 04/07/07
Have more respect...  Anton Philidor | 04/09/07
interesting  CobraA1 | 04/06/07
Being Open is a relative thing  robert5ok@... | 04/07/07
Ideas worth fighing for...  IAHawkeye | 04/07/07
A gift from Mr. Stallman  Anton Philidor | 04/07/07
Re: Game consoles are evil  none none | 04/07/07
Everything is ethical  owidder | 04/07/07
your all wrong !!  Aussie_Troll | 04/08/07
When you buy a car?  Imaginos1892 | 04/09/07
Game consoles are evil  TonyMcS | 04/08/07
I can picture Stallman frothing at the mouth  kraterz | 04/08/07
Re: I can picture Stallman frothing at the mouth  none none | 04/08/07
Why let that stop you...  mikifinaz1@... | 04/09/07
"there is no free software at all for devices like this"  anthony.w.ryan@... | 04/10/07
Not helping your neighbor is unethical  krasni_bor | 04/10/07
On the other hand  ZenaPrincess | 04/10/07

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