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October 22nd, 2009

Apple thumbing nose at Nokia? Nokia sues them over wireless patents

Posted by Matthew Miller @ 7:50 am

Categories: Apple, Nokia, iPhone

Tags: Apple iPhone, Patent, Nokia Corp., Apple Inc., Wireless, Smart Phones, Wi-Fi, Wireless And Mobility, Consumer Electronics, Personal Technology

You can’t argue with the success of the Apple iPhone, especially here in the US. However, Nokia believes that Apple infringes on their patents for GSM, UMTS, and WLAN standards so it is suing Apple in a Delaware court. There are ten patents called out in the suit that cover wireless data, speech coding, security and encryption and are infringed by all Apple iPhone models shipped since the iPhone was introduced in 2007. The details of the patents were not in the press release, but I have to wonder why the iPhone is different than all the other smartphones using these same wireless technologies and maybe it has to do with the way they all work together or something. According to the press release, approximately 40 other companies, including virtually all leading mobile device vendors, have worked our license agreements with Nokia.

Nokia has not had much success in the US and their market share here has declined siginificantly over the years, even counting their “dumb” phones. From Nokia’s point of view, I hope this lawsuit has some valid evidence because I don’t think this will cause people to love the Nokia name if iPhone’s are affected by the lawsuit. Then again, Nokia spent billions developing these technologies that all the other players have acknowledged is valuable so they should be compensated accordingly for the billions they spent.

It seems like Apple may have turned their nose to Nokia regarding these technologies that everyone else has already worked out with Nokia. Another sign of Apple arrogance?

Matthew MillerMatthew Miller is an avid mobile device enthusiast who works during the day as a professional naval architect in Seattle. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents
Even *Apple* uses the lawsuit to protect *their* intellectual property!!

From last weeks court ruling:

"Psystar infringed Apple's exclusive right to create derivative works of Mac OS X,"... (Read the rest)
Posted by: jhlundin Posted on: 11/15/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Yes, Nokia has to be frustrated, but, they should put their efforts into an  DonnieBoy | 10/22/09
I agree with Nokia.....  daMan25 | 10/22/09
That would be if you assume those with patents are the real innovators, or,  DonnieBoy | 10/22/09
Look....  daMan25 | 10/22/09
No, YOU look  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
Sorry.....  daMan25 | 10/22/09
It doesn't hurt me  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
Your point being...?  RangerFish | 10/22/09
Look ....  pjones | 10/23/09
Patents...  Fark | 10/22/09
I would have to see the patents, but, often, both companies develop the  DonnieBoy | 10/22/09
Again.......  daMan25 | 10/22/09
lame  leupole | 10/24/09
Wasn't the license paid by the chip makers?  Net-Tech_z | 10/22/09
Maybe, but probably not.  Letophoro | 10/22/09
Correction  frgough | 10/22/09
No agenda.  Letophoro | 10/22/09
Ah, so you drop 30% of all your phone calls?  NonZealot | 10/22/09
Still pushing that lie?  msalzberg | 10/22/09
Hi Stalker!!  NonZealot | 10/22/09
@NZealot...  msalzberg | 10/22/09
Phew, what's that smell?  NonZealot | 10/22/09
@"Non"Zealot...avoiding the question by insulting me...  msalzberg | 10/22/09
A simple question and a dull explanation.  A none mouse Cow Herd | 10/23/09
A simple answer and some explanation.  Letophoro | 10/23/09
Thanks fo the response.  A none mouse Cow Herd | 10/23/09
When you can't win in the marketplace, sue...  frgough | 10/22/09
If everyone else agrees with Nokia, seems Apple is arrogant  palmsolo (aka Matthew Miller)ZDNet Moderator | 10/22/09
I think  markbn | 10/22/09
History repeating itself...  wright_is | 10/26/09
...you suggest that there is no intellectual property...  jhlundin | 10/22/09
I think...  Ceridan | 10/22/09
Not necessarily.  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
... absolutely, but technology history suggests otherwise  jhlundin | 10/23/09
Patterns  Ceridan | 10/22/09
Flash back 15 years, would your comment be the same?  NonZealot | 10/22/09
Love that last sentence!  msalzberg | 10/22/09
Ah , you stalk NonZealot  markbn | 10/22/09
Nasty little schoolyard bullies.  A none mouse Cow Herd | 10/23/09
I'm puzzled  markbn | 10/23/09
The difference here, markbn...  msalzberg | 10/23/09
Re: The difference here,  markbn | 10/23/09
@mark: Ouch, that might have been crossing the line  NonZealot | 10/23/09
@markbn...  msalzberg | 10/23/09
Don't pretend to be puzzled.  A none mouse Cow Herd | 10/25/09
@A none mouse: your "inference" is wrong  markbn | 10/25/09
@msalzberg: doesn't change a thing  markbn | 10/25/09
@NonZealot  markbn | 10/25/09
apple scares the hell out of nokia  elllroy | 10/22/09
Did you EVER think that maybe Nokia has tried to get Apple to pay up...  IT_Guy_z | 10/22/09
Did You Ever ...  fissi | 10/23/09
Except Nokia IS beating them  NonZealot | 10/22/09
Not by any metric that matters.  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
Ah, metrics that matter?  NonZealot | 10/22/09
Only to the fanboys and the haters  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
2nd place is the first loser  NonZealot | 10/22/09
You're clearly the expert on losers!  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
@mo: zing!!  NonZealot | 10/22/09
@NZ...  msalzberg | 10/22/09
Nope.  Sleeper Service | 10/22/09
Market statistics.  A none mouse Cow Herd | 10/25/09
Not true RE: Nokia.  msalzberg | 10/22/09
When in doubt, let the lawyers fight it out.  matthew_maurice | 10/22/09
I dont see whats complicated, myself.  HexHammer67 | 10/24/09
Apple should get a free pass?  mustangj36@... | 10/22/09
RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents  dfl274 | 10/22/09
Maybe Nokia is a good corporate citizen and Apple is a bully?  NonZealot | 10/22/09
{laughing}  PollyProteus | 10/22/09
Those are good...a little of their own medicine...kind of funny - nt  socialism=nowhere | 10/22/09
You must think the iPhone is near-perfect...  msalzberg | 10/22/09
RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents  gaelicfog@... | 10/23/09
RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents  jeff.fostermedia@... | 10/23/09
RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents  vilppuu@... | 10/24/09
RE: Nokia frustrated by iPhone US success? Sues Apple over wireless patents  jhlundin | 11/15/09

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