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January 11th, 2009

Windows 7 as "Linux killer"? How times have changed!

Posted by Joe Brockmeier @ 11:55 am

Categories: Business and Open Source

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Netbook, Linux, Open Source, Operating Systems, Software, Joe Brockmeier

Microsoft makes for an unlikely David, and Linux an even unlikelier Goliath — but here we are. A few years ago, Linux was positioned as the “Windows killer.” Now, as Microsoft is ramping up its efforts in the netbook market, Windows 7 is being positioned as the Linux killer. Interesting that Microsoft is being cast as an underdog here, albeit one with about 70% of the netbook market.

This sounds to me like lowering expectations. Not that I’m knocking Linux on the netbook. Far from it — I’ve been a big believer in the concept since Asus released the Eee PC back in 2007.  However, Microsoft still has many advantages in the netbook market — it’s just that its advantages are in its market share, marketing muscle, and strong position with OEMs, rather than technical.

There are too many variables in the netbook market right now to make a good prediction which way it’ll go. Too many players, for one. And the economy’s downward spiral makes it an open question whether netbooks will gain from the poor economy, or if the sales will taper off along with other consumer PCs. Finally, there’s Apple. While the folks at Infinite Loop haven’t made a netbook play yet, everyone in the market has to be eyeing Apple with some discomfort and wondering if (or, probably more accurately, when) Apple will enter the netbook market with a Windows 7 killer.

But, even though it’s an uncertain market, I’d put my money on Linux to come out ahead. Ultimately, the Linux community and vendors can iterate much more quickly and develop more compelling products than Microsoft, and unless Microsoft changes its pricing model, Linux will continue to be cheaper. (Not to mention more flexible.) Given the state of the economy, a $50 per-unit price advantage just might be a compelling difference.

I’ve already owned two netbooks, both running Linux. (An early Asus Eee PC, and an HP Mini.) Granted, I’m a bit biased in favor of Linux, but both machines had everything I’d need or want on a netbook — and more than you’d get with a Windows 7 netbook. (For instance, full-blown office suites…) I’d be curious to know what ZDNet readers are looking for in a netbook — or if netbooks are of interest at all. Is Linux going to dominate on the netbook, or is there a chance that Windows 7 will beat back the Linux threat?

Joe 'Zonker' BrockmeierJoe 'Zonker' Brockmeier is a longtime FOSS advocate, and currently works for Novell as the community manager for openSUSE. Prior to joining Novell, Brockmeier worked as a technology journalist covering the open source beat for a number of publications, including Linux Magazine, Linux Weekly News, Linux.com, UnixReview.com, IBM developerWorks, and many others. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations. Follow Zonker on Twitter.

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Oh really?
Let us all wait for the penetration of the netbook.


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Posted by: akulkis Posted on: 10/28/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Is not any company "an underdog"  GuidingLight | 01/11/09
I agree  Cayble | 01/11/09
Netbooks = cheaper MS platform for most  Patanjali | 01/11/09
Vista terminology  Christian_<>< | 01/11/09
Ah.. Gee.. Look guys, the troll came up with a "funny"...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/12/09
Actually...  kozmcrae | 01/12/09
Please Wolfie  elderlybloke | 01/16/09
So, the VISTA name actually carries a meaning...  InAction Man | 01/12/09
Remember OLPC? -with XP?  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
I actually believe you have just defined...  Core2uu | 01/12/09
I disagree  none none | 01/11/09
If I had to pay for the privilege of using Linux I gladly would  InAction Man | 01/12/09
Let me see if I have this right.  xuniL_z | 01/12/09
His Point  pj_mouse | 01/12/09
I disagree with some  NoThomas | 01/12/09
I did not say Linux is golden or that windows is worthless for everyone  InAction Man | 01/12/09
I used to routinely pay $$$ for Linux  akulkis | 10/27/09
Makes a change...  SimonUK | 01/12/09
Ritual nature...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/14/09
Greetings xuniL_z  elderlybloke | 01/16/09
Donations are gladly accepted for FOSS projects! (NT)  dayjm | 01/12/09
If I had to pay for the privilege of using Linux I gladly would  scouser73 | 01/12/09
There is a reason for that...  SimonUK | 01/12/09
Actually...  PollyProteus | 01/14/09
Just like money under the table never happens anymore, eh?  Ole Man | 01/14/09
ALWAYS THE SAME ANNOYING DISCUSSIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN!  Thempleton | 01/12/09
Please don't read this nonesense!  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Along those lines.  joe.smetona@... | 01/14/09
A daily list of new apps for Linux  Ole Man | 01/14/09
Linux is FREE only if you ...  mwagner@... | 01/15/09
OEMs provide support for Windows as well...  jasonp@... | 01/18/09
Markets  pjotr123 | 01/11/09
Fessin' the Lesson  DannyO_0x98 | 01/11/09
RE: Windows 7 as Window XP killer?  Randalllind | 01/11/09
Windows 7 might be the worthy successor to XP, though.  nix_hed | 01/14/09
It may succeed even if they don't...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/14/09
Windows Shortcuts  akulkis | 10/28/09
RE: Windows 7 as a Linux Killer?  sybrtec | 01/11/09
Ah but.  Bozzer | 01/11/09
I have payed for several windows licenses and use none  InAction Man | 01/12/09
And how come  timiteh | 01/12/09
Build your own machine and  deaf_e_kate | 01/12/09
That's the OEM's requirement...  PollyProteus | 01/14/09
No, sadly, it's an MS requirement.  TripleII | 01/14/09
Excellent post, It's very Important information.  joe.smetona@... | 01/16/09
Attn Bozzer  elderlybloke | 01/16/09
Which brings up the point that...  Qbt | 01/11/09
Windows is being stuffed down people's throats  InAction Man | 01/12/09
So...  James T. Kirk | 01/12/09
You know the answer ...  MisterMiester | 01/12/09
A trojan horse.  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Microsoft Open Source...  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Bill Gates has openly supported Windows piracy  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Wait a sec...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/14/09
You can't even give Linux away?  kozmcrae | 01/12/09
Give Linux away for Free  jns_45K@... | 10/28/09
Change cost money. OS cost is minor $$ of change equations  Patanjali | 01/11/09
Your argument is becoming more and more less and less  Ole Man | 01/12/09
If you're right, Window7 may be a Windows killer  WiredGuy | 01/12/09
PoppyCock  mikefarinha | 01/11/09
Yes, but the exponent now carries a minus sign  InAction Man | 01/12/09
Pray tell..  JT82 | 01/12/09
Market saturation is not the main reason, the new mobile devices are  InAction Man | 01/12/09
You love Linux?  kozmcrae | 01/12/09
I love it.  storm14k | 01/12/09
How could you love it?  bendib | 01/15/09
Here we go again.  storm14k | 01/12/09
You just hit the nail on the head  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Sure sounds easy....  MGP2 | 01/24/09
The reason for your "Flash" frustration.  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
WHAT????  Philip_W | 01/12/09
From the developers...  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Cockypop!  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Portability  willoughbywill@... | 01/11/09
A cellular radio ...  mwagner@... | 01/15/09
Linux is the kernel (not an OS)...  Christian_<>< | 01/11/09
Actually...  ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
You're talking about GNU/Linux  InAction Man | 01/12/09
So, you believe all those Linux servers run KDE, Gnome, etc?  InAction Man | 01/12/09
even Wikipedia...  SimonUK | 01/12/09
Linux is a kernel like Windows 7 is a kernel! wink  i2fun@... | 09/07/09
Do yourself a favor...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/12/09
Just because Windows works great for you  InAction Man | 01/12/09
You might want to take a look at that real world along with him....  storm14k | 01/12/09
Agreed. Most people don't even use tabs properly.  T1Oracle | 01/12/09
Meethinks...  SimonUK | 01/12/09
I speak from experience...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/15/09
And work is force over distance, so be sure and  frgough | 10/28/09
of course Linux will win, just like it has on the desktop  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/11/09
According to the article  AndyCee | 01/11/09
OK, say 30%, my point is this . .  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/11/09
Will not happen....  linux for me | 01/12/09
Current discussion is  AndyCee | 01/12/09
Keep on dreaming...It's free so you'll love it...nt  transposeIT | 01/17/09
I'm not saying  AndyCee | 01/12/09
notebook/netbook convergence is inevitable  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/12/09
I think it's somewhat open to...  AndyCee | 01/13/09
yes, sorry if I sounded dogmatic  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/13/09
Who's BS You Been Smoking? wink  i2fun@... | 09/07/09
Linux didn't make any inroads at all  frgough | 10/28/09
RE: Windows 7 as  JustDoIT | 01/11/09
Why?  Qbt | 01/12/09
Killing the dead...?  Wolfie2K3 | 01/12/09
Who's afraid of the big bad Linux.  kozmcrae | 01/12/09
Yep, there's quite a bit of the "walking dead" nowadays  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Got a Good ROFLMAO at Linux being DEAD! grin  i2fun@... | 09/07/09
And who cares about open source?  JT82 | 01/12/09
Windows on a netbook?  V@... | 01/11/09
Sure, if you are a geek ...  mwagner@... | 01/15/09
Just like usual...  Qbt | 01/12/09
What you DON'T know can't hurt you.....  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Linux is not a factor  General C# | 01/12/09
Mobile phone? Then Linux IS a factor.  storm14k | 01/12/09
Price is a factor  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Amen, Price is Often a Factor  pogson | 01/13/09
I've had the same experience.  joe.smetona@... | 01/15/09
Linux is not a factor only to the short-sighted  pogson | 01/13/09
The ARM netbooks will likely run Linux.  trentreviso | 01/12/09
Does Microsoft even need a Linux Killer ?  timiteh | 01/12/09
You have a point.  storm14k | 01/12/09
Yes and no  Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
That is a good point.  TripleII | 01/12/09
"with the Linux version you get a complete and functional suite"  Ole Man | 01/12/09
Um, perhaps that's because they saw GREATER  frgough | 10/28/09
FOSS Bolshevism is quaint....  Gnutella | 01/12/09
Yep the do move on...  storm14k | 01/12/09
That aint nuthin  Ole Man | 01/12/09
It's not the retail cost of Microsoft OS...  bbneo | 01/12/09
Dosn't Linux need some kind of Market Share before it can be killed?  Breetai | 01/12/09
Dosn't Linux need some kind of Market Share before it can be killed?  putty.master | 01/12/09
Ultimately . . .  dhunter756 | 01/12/09
Non IT people do know...  storm14k | 01/12/09
He's one of those folks....  storm14k | 01/12/09
Why don't you ask Steve Ballmer.  kozmcrae | 01/12/09
The success of Google...  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Compete with them at what?  storm14k | 01/12/09
You can't kill a product that dosn't exist  Breetai | 01/13/09
We need antitrust laws with some balls...  bbneo | 01/12/09
The monopoly is dead  pogson | 01/13/09
RE: Windows 7 as  rimbaud@... | 01/12/09
You said it all when you said...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/12/09
RE: Windows 7 as  richdave | 01/12/09
It may be more than $50.  TripleII | 01/12/09
Good points.  storm14k | 01/12/09
No one is factoring in AV and Firewall costs...  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Let's start at the beginning  Alan(UK) | 01/12/09
Just in time, A NYT article to straighten things out.  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
re: Just in time, A NYT article to straighten things out.  none none | 01/12/09
Thousands of distros.  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
So called free market...  wonderbored | 01/12/09
Acer works great with Linux Mint.  joe.smetona@... | 01/12/09
Reject the EULA  TripleII | 01/12/09
RE: Windows 7 as  uno@... | 01/12/09
Hey can I ask a question?  Colfax_Mac | 01/12/09
They don't make a whole lot of money.  terry flores | 01/12/09
Linux information, NYT article.  joe.smetona@... | 01/13/09
Windows 7 as  proton_z | 01/12/09
RE: Windows 7 is no Linux Killer  scouser73 | 01/12/09
RE: Windows 7 as  digitrog | 01/12/09
linux will kill linux  Aussie_Troll | 01/12/09
Yep, they are leaving in droves.  joe.smetona@... | 01/13/09
GNU/Linux is Thriving  pogson | 01/13/09
Toy 1970's OS? WTF!?  bendib | 01/15/09
A 1970's OS  akulkis | 10/28/09
Linux is already dead, what's there to kill? nt  transposeIT | 01/13/09
not dead on netbook  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/13/09
So you accept that MS is doomed then?  jbroche18 | 01/13/09
Still earning money as a shill I see.  TripleII | 01/13/09
LMAO. Your rhetoric just got even weaker.  TripleII | 01/13/09
RE: Windows 7 as  antalves | 01/13/09
RE: Windows 7 as  notsofast | 01/13/09
RE: Windows 7 as  Invariance | 01/13/09
It's a matter of practicality...  reapur | 01/14/09
An easier way.  joe.smetona@... | 01/14/09
Linux & security  JustDoIT | 01/15/09
Really, have you tried Linux?  joe.smetona@... | 01/16/09
Ok..it's an exaggeration.  akulkis | 10/28/09
You cannot run Windows 100% of the time  Ole Man | 01/14/09
You just didn't try.  akulkis | 10/28/09
RE: Windows 7 as  AdeOghert | 01/14/09
AYE, there's the rub ...  mwagner@... | 01/15/09
Oh really?  akulkis | 10/28/09
RE: Windows 7 as  goldenpirate@... | 01/15/09
Marketing prowess is ...  mwagner@... | 01/15/09
I don't really need or want one  jlongino@... | 01/15/09
Unless Windows 7 becomes open-source  JustDoIT | 01/15/09
RE: Windows 7 as  spo00n | 01/15/09
RE: Windows 7 as  znmeb | 01/16/09
RE: Windows 7 as  payton@... | 01/16/09
ARM as the Windows Killer?  TripleII | 01/16/09
Paying for OS is so... 2007  zaine_ridling | 01/17/09
Burning .ISO CD information  joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
Here comes Adobe, Apps for Linux happy  joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
Breaking story, Theft of 100 million credit and debit card accounts.  joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
RE: Windows 7 as  myother | 01/26/09
At $200 for a Linux netbook, I'm interested  rcuff | 01/29/09
Solid state hard drives.  joe.smetona@... | 01/31/09
Windows 7? Wake me up when it's running on Mobile Everything!  i2fun@... | 03/08/09
RE: Windows 7 as  Stovies | 10/28/09

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