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April 27th, 2009

Will ARM netbooks be competitive?

Posted by John Morris @ 12:27 pm

Categories: Notebooks, PCs, Peripherals, and Software

Tags: ARM, Netbook, Alpha 680, Skytone, Netbooks, Nettops & MIDs, Hardware, John Morris

Rumors of netbooks using smartphone components rather than Intel chips and Microsoft Windows are nothing new. But we’re finally getting a good idea of just what a PC based on an ARM processor and Linux will look like.

Because the tiny ARM chips are designed for smartphones, many believe that netbooks using them will be less expensive and get better battery life than those using Intel’s Atom processor. ARM itself has said that netbooks using its technology will cost $200 and last eight to 12 hours on a charge (ARM: Heretic in the church of Intel, Moore’s Law). But it’s not clear that the first ARM netbooks–six to 10 models this year, according to ARM–will reach these lofty goals.

One of the first is likely to be the Alpha 680 from Guangzhou Skytone Transmission Technologies, a company in China that has previously worked with Wal-Mart on low-cost Linux PCs. In an interview with Networkworld, Nixon Wu, the company’s co-founder, said Skytone will have “final prototypes” of its netbook in June, and will release it this summer. The Alpha 680 is based on a 533MHz ARM11 processor and Android, the Linux-based operating system currently used on HTC’s G1 “Google phone.” (Samsung announced an Android smartphone, the I7500, earlier today.)

Even by netbook standards, the Alpha 680 looks under-powered. It is based on a 7-inch display with a resolution of 800 by 480 pixels, even as most netbooks are moving to 10-inch, 1024-by-576 displays (several are now offering 1366×768 displays as well). It will have 128MB of memory (expandable to 256MB) and a 1GB SSD (also expandable, to 4GB). Even with this low-end configuration, the Alpha 680 will start around $250. That’s less than any 10-inch netbook, of course. But you can pick up the Dell Inspiron Mini 9 with an 8.9-inch LED-backlit display (1,024×600), 1.6GHz Intel Atom N270, 1GB of memory, 4GB SSD and Ubuntu Linux for $279.

As for battery life, Skytone says the Alpha 680 with its two-cell battery will get two to four hours on a charge. By comparison, the Mini 9 with its standard four-cell battery lasted 3 hours 21 minutes on CNET’s tests.

To keep the price down, the Alpha 680 won’t come with many applications. You can use Web-based applications or download apps from the Android Store, though Wu told Networkworld that some 20% of apps in the store won’t work because of compatibility issues. Uh-oh. There’s a reason why more than 90 percent of netbook buyers have chosen a $15 copy of Windows XP over a free Linux distribution.

Comparing the Alpha 680 with current netbooks misses the point, Wu told Networkworld. Netbooks have actually become too powerful, he said, and what the rest of the world really needs is a very low-cost mobile device for checking e-mail, browsing the Web and performing basic chores. That may be true, but ARM-based netbooks will still need to be competitive in terms of specs, performance and price to knock Wintel off its perch.

The Alpha 680 will be smaller and lighter than other netbooks–no surprise given its specs. Skytone says it will weigh 1.5 pounds and measure 8.5 by 6 by 1.2 inches. But so far that approach hasn’t worked woo well either with early netbooks using 7-inch displays or with MIDs (Mobile Internet Devices). Ultimately the question is whether there really is a market for a device that is neither smartphone nor notebook.

John MorrisJohn Morris is a former executive editor at CNET Networks and senior editor at PC Magazine. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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One killer app not mentioned  Michael Kelly | 04/27/09
Well, you would still need more than a 7 inch screen. I think the sweet  DonnieBoy | 04/27/09
Not screen size so much as screen resolution  Michael Kelly | 04/27/09
You have to look at the bloody thing.  fr0thy2 | 04/28/09
Yeah Europe is so non-litigious, they are the  socialism=nowhere | 04/28/09
And the killer apps would be ...  ThinkFairer | 04/27/09
Agreed, Arm netbooks need to offer minimum, a 9 inch  DonnieBoy | 04/27/09
At what point though?  LiquidLearner | 04/27/09
Well, right here, right now, Intel can not compete in the cell  DonnieBoy | 04/27/09
But that's a *HUGE* advantage  wolf_z | 04/28/09
So what?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/29/09
if they will pick a decent distro, then 566Mhz and 512MB  brokndodge@... | 04/28/09
ARM netbook will fail because of only one issue  croberts | 04/27/09
Most users use just email, web browser, office suite. The average Joe  DonnieBoy | 04/27/09
Netbook format?  croberts | 04/27/09
why bring apple in to this  dave@... | 04/27/09
Huh?  Graham Ellison | 04/28/09
Spoken like someone who has never tried an 11" netbook  Michael Kelly | 04/28/09
ARM netbook will fail because  Bacchus618 | 04/29/09
Well, Linux on a toaster didn't fly either so don't hold your breath..nt  transposeIT | 04/28/09
LOL - nt  socialism=nowhere | 04/28/09
Shhh don't tell Donnie/frothy he has a Linux TP dispenser! nt  socialism=nowhere | 04/28/09
There is nothing like a too small screen ....  lad.koc | 04/28/09
They're only media slurping monkeys.  fr0thy2 | 04/28/09
Still hopeless donnie...nt  socialism=nowhere | 04/28/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  kps_46635@... | 04/28/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  Elihion | 04/28/09
Apple Will Make It and It Will Be Dominant  oh my god | 04/28/09
It's a no brainer  Graham Ellison | 04/28/09
The iPhone is the closest Apple ...  mwagner@... | 04/28/09
I thought PA RISC...  914four | 04/28/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  mwagner@... | 04/28/09
Windows not suited to my needs  JeanLePharmacien | 04/29/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  john.foggitt@... | 04/28/09
Ever work with an INMOS Transputer?  914four | 04/28/09
ATM  DeusExMachina | 05/01/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  azvicrider | 04/28/09
ARM Cortex A8 will be more interesting  sgs_z | 04/28/09
ARM was NOT designed for smart phones!  DeusExMachina | 04/28/09
Welcome to the Mobile Internet Device age!  intelliginix@... | 04/28/09
Arm netbooks WILL be competitive  jvin248 | 04/28/09
A5 size or near is what I need  JeanLePharmacien | 04/29/09
apples and oranges  Mitch 74 | 04/29/09
wow  jdbukis@... | 04/29/09
Apps will be sparce and NO, they won't sell well  dunn@... | 04/29/09
Apps will be sparce  Bacchus618 | 04/29/09
RE: Will ARM netbooks be competitive?  shadfurman | 04/29/09

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