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February 25th, 2009

Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?

Posted by Harry Fuller @ 2:04 pm

Categories: Blogroll, China, Europe, air pollution, aviation & aeronautics, cars & traffic, climate change, conservation, energy, engineering, environmental health, federal government, global warming, green tech, law & politics, mass transit, petroleum, state government

Tags: Speed, Government, Transportation, Vertical Industries, Enterprise Software, Software, Harry Fuller

Wow, my posting on high speed sure needled the paranoia among some readers.
Says one talkback: “The automobile is one of the great protectors of freedom. The government hates that you can move without supervision and constant tracking or monitoring.”
Is this the same goverment that has coddled Detroit and the oil companies for decades? Yet this writer apparently uses email, probably a phone of some kind and may even have an ATM or credit card, all “monitored” by an intelligence structure falsely named and hideously ineffective. Besides, who cares if some moron wants to watch me take a train to visit a friend?
Another talkback: “No, the reason Amtrak is always in trouble is because they are required to maintain non-profitable lines, have ridiculous labor policies and are heavily regulated by the government. And the rest of the world is not the United States. We have states larger than entire nations. It’s asinine [sic] to assume their transportation models can be picked up and dropped onto our nation.”
America as the special case. We can continue to pollute more and burn more energy per capita than anybody else because…we are Americans? We are Masters of the Universe? Citibank ethos as our national mantra? China can do high speed but we can’t?
Then the Jindal approach: government sucks. “The real problem comes from the government picking winners and losers with its investments. You wouldn’t feel so confident about high speed rail if it squashes a better, more efficient means of transportation. The bottom line is government is and always will be a bull in a china shop. The idea that it approaches (even a little bit) the capacity, efficiency, or innovation of the private market is madness.”
Absolutely. Let’s wait for Lehman Brothers or Enron or Exxon or General Motors to tell us when we need rail and when we don’t. Protect us from expecting anything from the government we elect. Better to trust an MBA or CEO, those initials make them far superior to mere voters.
A number of the comments indicate writers who believe profit is the ultimate reason for any public enterprise. Commonwealth, public service, equality, fairness, protecting the environment–screw all that, this is about the money. Everything else is socialism, or perhaps worse if somebody would just coin the phrase. Should we expect massive pro-auto protests by people trying to stop construction of high speed rail if it ever gets beyond a planner’s map? Is global warming so comforting that we should do nothing to reduce our CO2 output, like switching from planes to rail when it makes sense and saves time?
Those wanting to head off the plot to build high speed rail better get themselves to Silicon Valley before this gets out of hand. Planning? Mass transit? The end of the American Way of Life?
Those greedy progressives up in Wisconsin are hoping to get better rail service for two lines: Milwaukee-Madison and Milwaukee-Chicago. Think Chicago might get a little federal money? Sad note: the Wisconsin governor had to go to Spain to find good example of high speed rail system and manufacturers. Up in New York State they’re dreaming of fast line from Albany to Buffalo and Albany-Manhattan. For the rail haters and rail baiters this is definitely getting out of hand.

Harry FullerA newsman since 1969, Harry Fuller has worked for CBS, ABC, CNBC Europe, CNET and was founding news director at TechTV. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Rail is Wonderful
Even Amtrak is not so bad (not to be confused with what were talking about) but a modern high speed system WOW. People in US don't know never been there all they think is fly or drive its not a choice... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Altotus Posted on: 05/30/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Sorry Harry  tonymcs@... | 02/25/09
Look in the mirror  Dorkyman | 02/25/09
Look around you ...  fr0thy2 | 02/25/09
If you are going to quote someone ....  ShadeTree | 02/26/09
Isn't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the guy...  kbatty | 02/26/09
Because Spelling is soooo Important  mthyer | 02/26/09
VERY WELL SAID  Keeping Current | 02/26/09
Government chooses winners and loosers  CodeCurmudgeon | 02/26/09
Back to the Resolve Please  mthyer | 02/26/09
Capitilism is not a zero-sum game.  goban22 | 02/27/09
Right, look in the mirror  RonC_z | 02/26/09
RE: Right, look in the mirror  robertwc@... | 02/26/09
You ain't seen nuttin yet.......  wblacroix@... | 02/27/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  daniel.pereznet | 02/25/09
Problem Solvers  sboverie@... | 02/26/09
You had some help...  snberk341 | 02/26/09
You are Right  sboverie@... | 02/26/09
Long term investing  CodeCurmudgeon | 02/26/09
General Motors  Normal_z | 02/25/09
The red cars in L.A.?  Dorkyman | 02/25/09
Understandably  Normal_z | 02/26/09
So Are Those the Only Criteria?  mthyer | 02/26/09
Look at a train today  CodeCurmudgeon | 02/26/09
The issue at heart here is that we are not europe.  Been_Done_Before | 02/25/09
Parking is an issue, but frequency is moreso.  CodeCurmudgeon | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  tburzio | 02/25/09
Wow, I thought Murphy was the Idiot Savant ....  ShadeTree | 02/25/09
We live longer  snberk341 | 02/26/09
Wow, I thought ...  dshans@... | 02/26/09
And if you want to live in ...  mthyer | 02/26/09
Examples?  zclayton2 | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  rbethman@... | 02/26/09
respectfully, I disagree  snberk341 | 02/26/09
You have to love...  IowaTVMan | 02/26/09
Palm Reading or a Crystal Ball?  mthyer | 02/26/09
Tell it Harry...  wmlundine | 02/26/09
rail - is it energy efficient  ca1ic0cat | 02/26/09
I remember that study....  snberk341 | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  wtfbb121 | 02/26/09
7.2 % According to Statistics Canada  snberk341 | 02/26/09
Canada Can Help  mthyer | 02/26/09
Neither fish nor fowl.  richard233 | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  fire1 | 02/26/09
Just leave our hockey teams alone...  snberk341 | 02/26/09
More controversial... for good reasons.  Gaius_Maximus | 02/26/09
Evil Union Bastards  mthyer | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  epjohnso415 | 02/26/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  robertwc@... | 02/26/09
ISM  barquiero | 02/28/09
RE: Rail--even more controversial than nuclear?  Georgia Madman | 03/02/09
Rail is Wonderful  Altotus | 05/30/09

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