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July 16th, 2009

"Cooling trend" and global warming

Posted by Harry Fuller @ 11:50 am

Categories: Antarctic, Arctic, Blogroll, air pollution, climate change, environmental health, global warming, green tech, law & politics, ocean, research, venture capital

Tags: Global Warming, Harry Fuller

I found an interesting fact-based argument on the “cooling trend” that is frequently used to “refute” global warming warnings. Here’s the link, complete with charts. His basic argument: using the 1998 peak makes recent years look cooler, but take a loooooonger look and the curve is distinctly toward hotter times ahead.
That means the refuters of global warming may have to fall back on the “bad data from bad thermometer” argument as only a small minority of voters seems to be buying the eco-nuts’ conspiracy theory.
Then there is the nagging issue of the disappearance of the glaciers and ice sheets, from Alps to Greenland to Arctic. If you don’t want to accept global warming, the argument can basically be “hard cheese, some things come and some things go.” But that gets dangerously close to admitting evolution. Be interesting to see survey of global warming deniers and natural evolution deniers and see if there could be anybody able to pretzel his or her mind around those two positions simultaneously.
STANDARD BOILER PLATE
This verbiage will now be attached to any blog I do about global warming. It’s amazing to me that somebody who can apparently read and then post comments still wonders in public why global warming matters on a technology web site. But I am naive, always assuming everybody’s paying attention.
It’s because of money. If global warming has enough acceptance among corporations, the public and even pols, there will be more money spent on green tech, wisely or unwisely. If oil prices stay low and most people don’t care a fig about global warming, green tech will have a difficult time succeeding, regardless of its merits. Not every good idea succeeds. VCs usually invest where they think there’s best chance for a good return. In greentech as in any tech the winners will often be determined by luck, brilliance, timing, happenstance and even marketing. Behind it all will be the money and behind that: whether the evidence for global warming and curtailing pollution drive action or is written off as claptrap.

Harry FullerA newsman since 1969, Harry Fuller has worked for CBS, ABC, CNBC Europe, CNET and was founding news director at TechTV. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Re: Numbers
"How many weather stations do we have on Mars and Saturn"?

Actually, more than we had here on earth earlier than a couple of centuries ago. Even the 150 year chart relies on a *lot* of guess work and inaccurate data for much of its timespan.... (Read the rest)
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"It?s because of money."  nizuse | 07/16/09
I'm not so worried about Global Warming...  mjlaverty@... | 07/16/09
Man made is irrelevant  T1Oracle | 07/16/09
What do you want us to do? Panic and spend a bunch of money  Lerianis10 | 07/16/09
man mad or not  Juergen Hartl | 07/16/09
depends...  Fark | 07/16/09
What Consequences?  mikefarinha | 07/16/09
How about these consequences  CyberZombie | 07/17/09
Changing climate  pwhite42 | 07/17/09
That's extremely simple physics  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/16/09
Not so simple  Markitect | 07/18/09
Stay focused!  nhudd | 07/16/09
Do you remember when..  T1Oracle | 07/16/09
The folly of acting preemptlively..  nhudd | 07/16/09
Thanks  brad.frost@... | 07/17/09
Agreed!!  mattbart4 | 07/17/09
Excellent reply  Baer | 07/17/09
Intellectual question answer  hoffmann367@... | 07/17/09
No, sorry  Jkirk3279 | 07/17/09
Greenland was warmer  zackers | 07/24/09
The time period matters....for both sides of the argument.  aalhc5@... | 07/16/09
Ignoring data is best way to always be right...  Fark | 07/16/09
Harry, Brave enough to reply to this?  nizuse | 07/16/09
sure thing  Reality-based | 07/16/09
It is Bushes fault right?  Baer | 07/17/09
Numbers  Jkirk3279 | 07/17/09
Satellites  Markitect | 07/18/09
Re: Numbers  zackers | 07/24/09
Agreed.  CobraA1 | 07/16/09
RE: Agreed  Bodazapha | 07/16/09
So true.  nizuse | 07/16/09
Not to mention... What will be the net benefit?  psquare11 | 07/19/09
RE:  BOSS4908 | 07/16/09
RE: If We Look Long Enough....  shollomon | 07/16/09
RE:  BOSS4908 | 07/16/09
RE: Cooling  BOSS4908 | 07/16/09
When are you...  rapson | 07/16/09
Glaciers, etc  andrewjg | 07/16/09
Uh...  Jkirk3279 | 07/17/09
Let me get this straight...  nhudd | 07/16/09
The Real Cooling  joeschmo1of3 | 07/16/09
Offensive  joeschmo1of3 | 07/16/09
Only in your warped mind ....  Oknarf | 07/16/09
DING! DING! DING! The Sun is the answer  Lerianis10 | 07/16/09
Dingaling  MC_z | 07/17/09
Climate is changing, Big deal!  osreinstall | 07/16/09
Your persistence is boring  jorjitop | 07/16/09
Global warming is just being used as a political power-grab  dferguson75@... | 07/17/09
Follow the Money  TallTomD | 07/17/09
RE: More studies!  rhlitonjua@... | 07/17/09
Sunspots = Global Warming  LarryPTL | 07/17/09
Hey Einstein  MC_z | 07/17/09
Hi Al, How are you?  Baer | 07/17/09
Global Warming Deniers Are Pigs...  sandshark75 | 07/17/09
You sound like such a nice person (not)  Speednet | 07/17/09
Somebody call the Waa-mbulance!  Markitect | 07/18/09
Standard Boilerplate Comment: Yet another dopey blog entry  Speednet | 07/17/09
How can you all be so gullible? (Pig indeed!)  Gaius_Maximus | 07/17/09
Delusions  Jkirk3279 | 07/17/09
Hi  rhlitonjua@... | 07/18/09
btw  rhlitonjua@... | 07/18/09
Yes...  Jkirk3279 | 07/18/09
Correction  Jkirk3279 | 07/18/09
thanks  rhlitonjua@... | 07/18/09
RE:  handryjaya | 07/18/09
How about "Warming Trend Since the End of the Pleistocene Epoch Continues?"  donnydo77@... | 07/19/09
RE: Looooonger period of measurement required  rogergrice | 07/19/09
RE: wow look at this graph!!!  rogergrice | 07/19/09
NPR debate: "Global Warming Is Not a Crisis"  pranavb99@... | 07/19/09
Cap & Tax: Not the answer  psquare11 | 07/19/09
RE:  bb_apptix | 07/20/09
So ... What's wrong with Global Warming, anyways?!  QuadFather | 07/20/09

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