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October 17th, 2009

The really inconvenient truth: real price of our energy

Posted by Harry Fuller @ 10:56 am

Categories: Blogroll, Russia, air pollution, conservation, environmental health, federal government, fossil fuel, green tech, law & politics, nuclear power, ocean, petroleum, renewable energy, water

Tags: Coal, Inconvenient Truth, Energy, Food & Beverage, Mortgages, Manufacturing, Finance, Capital Structures, Harry Fuller

I’ve blogged before about the need for a new energy calculus. Not just market and whosesale costs to the user of the energy. Economics and business have a notoriously short-sighted, narrow-minded set of considerations. Haven’t we just re-learned that ancient lesson from the hedge funder corruption and the phoney mortgage miasma? Nothing human is self-regulating, whether four year olds or CEOs.

We humans could start calculating the real, total costs of our endeavors to the planet and all of us, living and expected. For energy sources it’s not just fossil fuels. What’s the long-term cost of dealing with nuclear waste? Of making solar panels? The destruction of wildlife and possible weather change wrought by big wind farms. We could stop pretending that nature gives us a free lunch on any source of energy. Even a donkey turning a waterwheel has an environmental cost. The food, the resulting manure, the dust raised by the donkey’s hooves, etc. Can we really pretend that today’s high rates of cancer, infertility, diabetes and asthma–to pick a few–really have nothing to do with the chemicals in our lives, our water, our food?

Way back in the 19th Century we learned the cost of coal included killer smog in London and black lung inside the miners’ chests. Yet we continue to lie to ourselves about energy. We now even see big money trying to market the idea there is “clean coal.” Congress likes that because some major political donors love it. Of course, what is meant is capturing the CO2 and hiding it somewhere or recycling it. Nobody really can believe that mining, moving and burning coal is “clean.” And we need not go into detail on the coal ash residue, do we?

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We’ve learned much about the actual effects of our resource extraction and use in the past decades. Now we need to stop pretending it’s 1950. When I was a kid in rural Midwest we burned our household trash, including plastics, spray cans and used paint materials. We were spreading heavy metals and nasty organic chemicals like mad. We sprayed our milk cows with DDT, then milked them. I drank a lot of that stuff. No wonder I’m such a pathetic human being today, huh? The point is: we know better now. Buried or burned is not gone, only forgotten. There’s an Oklahoma town suffering from zinc smelting that happened decades ago. A Kansas lead mining town may just be too toxic to live in. A federal buyout there is backed by some of the country’s most conservative U.S. Senators.
Times Beach, Missouri, was killed by dioxin in oil used to control dust. It died in the 1980s.
We still do heedless things today and the “market system” pretends it has no economic meaning. Let’s try growing up. This is our planet and nobody else will clean it up for us.
Here’s just the latest in the endless series of environmental crimes against the planet perpetrated by big energy companies. This one is called “dump it on the poor.” Highly nuclear France seems to be careless with some of their spent nuclear fuel. Surprised? Send it to Russia where nobody imagines there are enforced environmental controls, right?
And it now looks like the American EPA is going to start looking at West Virginia coal mining as more than a source of profit and jobs. The coal companies and their Senate pals will hate that.

Harry FullerA newsman since 1969, Harry Fuller has worked for CBS, ABC, CNBC Europe, CNET and was founding news director at TechTV. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Nice!
That's pretty funny stuff. You know all attempts to predict the day will fail right?

However, no one knows the day or the hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. (NLT, Matthew 24:36)... (Read the rest)
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A different take  Richard Flude | 10/17/09
London is cleaner - but not because of the free market  snberk341 | 10/17/09
And the side effect of what you are mentioning  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
Green Dot program  snberk341 | 10/18/09
Not really...  HooNoze | 10/18/09
People that buy do pay.  bjbrock | 10/18/09
Pay - as a consumer or a taxpayer  snberk341 | 10/19/09
Proof, please.  msalzberg | 10/18/09
Free-er markets behind today's standard of living  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
isn't london's electricity bought in from France (Nuclear)  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Save it  Tim Patterson | 10/17/09
"environmental crimes against the planet"  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/17/09
Got to agree with you  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
gaia complex...?????? you clearly haven't read any books  stevey_d | 10/18/09
"It is now past the point where we can prevent the major changes"  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
"depressed"??? No not at all  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Well, that clears it up.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
what is your problem?  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Chill out I said.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
conferring emotion is a cheap trick to try to undermine an argument  stevey_d | 10/18/09
You sound hysterical. So my point is valid.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Actually, they're very possible to deny  John Zern | 10/18/09
Do you have any children?  bjbrock | 10/18/09
Nope.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
population isn't a factor  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Of course population is a factor.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Communist agenda..... Oboma = Stalin  Christian_<>< | 10/18/09
@Christian  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
My thoughts on CO2  CobraA1 | 10/17/09
CO2 is not something that we have to worry about  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
nonsense  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Yawn again Steve.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
You're right - and you'll be sharing Canada with a lot of other people  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Nope.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
As Canadian, let me say...  snberk341 | 10/19/09
"we'll close the borders and shoot everyone" ... "chill out"  stevey_d | 10/18/09
I dunno if you've noticed . . .  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
5 degrees would make cold london into the sahara  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Stevey sounds like a child, doesn't he.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Trade winds, not temp, determines dryness.  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
Cobra1, even Siberia was a desert after the Permian Extinction  stevey_d | 10/18/09
@Stevey  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Canada is bigger  snberk341 | 10/19/09
^^^ Spam post. Ignore. ^^^  James T. Kirk | 10/17/09
The fact is that our planet  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
95 of the worlds' scientist disagree with you  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Interesting.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Made up statistics . . .  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
I agree, only 95 of the world's scientists disagree with you...  aalhc5@... | 10/18/09
cheap shot on a typo, you know it's 95%  stevey_d | 10/18/09
You are right, to a point...  snberk341 | 10/18/09
I also have to post that it is either get used to these environmental  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
"THEY HATE HUMANITY" who's the loon Lerianis10  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Man, take a rest - watch your blood pressure.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Good points  oncall | 10/18/09
Same here, dude.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
the white anglosaxon Christian male  oncall | 10/18/09
So I'm glad you'll  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Already got  oncall | 10/18/09
handwaving nope "would we be better served working on adapting" yep  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Lol Stevey - watch your blood pressure!  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
you are hysterical  stevey_d | 10/18/09
See? I'm helping you to cool down from your doom thinking...  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Poverty, not climate change  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
"quantity of food continues to increase". wrong.. it _was_ increasing  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Your "research" is embarrassing  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
Trying to make it real compared to what?  TriangleDoor | 10/18/09
Sheesh, that's bad poetry  aspir8or | 10/19/09
I agree, might be good for you to start with DDT (fact finding)  aalhc5@... | 10/18/09
Hey Harry, is Stevey your 2nd nick? He sounds as hysterical as you.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
hey "the world is 6000 years old and evolution doesn't exist guy"  stevey_d | 10/18/09
I'm doing very good thanks.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Lies lies and more lies...  Christian_<>< | 10/18/09
Actually.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/18/09
Really?  ITLeader | 10/19/09
Because the Rapture is coming  Reality-based | 10/19/09
What Will You Do  sboverie@... | 10/20/09
Nice!  ITLeader | 10/20/09
It's funny...  rmazzeo | 10/19/09
Not really.  masonwheeler | 10/19/09

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