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January 2nd, 2008

Say "No!" to bundled apps!

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 6:47 am

Categories: Industry, Software

Tags: Security Firm, Security, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

You’ve gotta be careful when you install software nowadays - you install one thing and you end up with a couple of applications that you didn’t expect to get.  Welcome to the world of application bundling, and it seems that everyone is doing it nowadays.

Over the past few years I’ve noticed a disturbing increase in app bundling.  Sure, you’ve always had to keep an eye on the install process just to make sure that you weren’t getting something you didn’t bargain for, especially if you were dealing with less well-known vendors, but now it seems that there’s no telling who might be bundling apps - free software or commercial, it seems that companies are looking for additional revenue streams.

Take, for example, security software.  Alex Eckelberry, president of Sunbelt Software, security expert and all round good guy, has been keeping an eye on the competition and has noticed a disturbing trend where security vendors are bundling the Ask toolbar with their security offerings.  Webroot, ZoneAlarm and STOPzilla are three examples that Eckelberry has posted about recently.  These products don’t just offer bundled apps to customers, the option to install them is pre-checked in the hope that users will unwittingly install them.  Disturbing how quickly security firms will resort to rogue tactics when it suits them.

Webroot bundled app  STOPzilla bundled app

ZoneAlarm bundled apps

Image credit: Sunbelt Software

In case you’re wondering why security firms would risk their reputation by resorting to such disreputable tricks, the simple answer is that these companies are paid to bundle. 

It’s not just security firms up to dubious tricks though.  I’ve lost count of the examples of bundling I’ve seen just over the past few months.  WinZip used to come bundled with the Google Toolbar and Desktop Search but now pushes the Carbonite online backup service and Adobe Reader comes with (or at least did the last time I looked) Yahoo! toolbar.  Oddly enough, I stopped using both of these products - I use 7-Zip and FoxIt Reader instead. 

 WinZip bundled app

Even hardware vendors aren’t shy of bundling either.  Lately installing or updating ATi graphics card drivers has become a pain because if you’re not careful you end up with Earthsim and a whole lot of other unnecessary stuff installed, with the associated icons scattered about the place like confetti.

ATi bundled apps    ATi bundled app

I want to make it clear that I’m not anti-bundling, instead I’m against trying to trick the user into installing something they don’t want or need by pre-checking the option in the installation program.  Not only is this designed to catch out the unwary, it makes the install process longer because you have to do custom installs and scrutinize everything.  Each time I come across a pre-checked bundled app, I lose respect for the company which is wasting my time, turning the install process into a game of Russian roulette and disrespecting my PC.  

Say “No!” to bundled apps! 

Thoughts?

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Don't be Evil
Doesn't Google have a motto of "don't be evil"?

Bunding the google desktop with software and having the checkbox already checked seems a little evil to me.

Maybe their slogan should be, "Don't be evil unless it increases the value of our stock."... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Handrew Posted on: 01/24/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Roxio Creator 9 has got to be ....  ShadeTree | 01/02/08
why you don't use the repository? (nt)  n0neXn0ne | 01/02/08
nero trys to install ASK.com  SO.CAL Guy | 01/02/08
K3B ask for nothing  Michael Kelly | 01/02/08
Software companies should be ashamed  MrViklund | 01/02/08
Everyone?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/02/08
You still have to look  Michael Kelly | 01/02/08
You forget the worst bundler of all ... Google  Rob Oakes | 01/02/08
I agree  GuidingLight | 01/02/08
AMEN!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/02/08
What?  ju1ce | 01/03/08
If you're gonna go there...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/03/08
Don't be Evil  Handrew | 01/24/08
Wow!  Linux User 147560 | 01/02/08
Don't get to happy to quickly  nrfool | 01/02/08
Ah!  Linux User 147560 | 01/02/08
Yes and no.  osreinstall | 01/02/08
Re: Don't get to happy to quickly  santuccie | 01/02/08
BTW  santuccie | 01/02/08
Every Linux Distro ....  ShadeTree | 01/02/08
Disingenous to say the least  TripleII | 01/02/08
The disingenuous thing is to ....  ShadeTree | 01/02/08
OK, it's different.  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
No, it's really not different  eb276 | 01/02/08
Is, too.  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
Au Contraire  ShadeTree | 01/02/08
Not quite  DNSB | 01/03/08
...comes with the basics  santuccie | 01/02/08
So you install like eight different text editors, ...  ShadeTree | 01/02/08
Which distro are you talking about?  santuccie | 01/02/08
SUSE, Redhat take your pick(nt)  ShadeTree | 01/03/08
Not open source  santuccie | 01/04/08
Yawn - talking cr*p again huh  deaf_e_kate | 01/03/08
bundles/linux  merc2dogs` | 01/03/08
I have found it on Suse. ONE was trial the other  hkommedal | 01/08/08
It's already happening in Linux, Walmart is selling  bka1959 | 01/02/08
You are talking at the OS level  Linux User 147560 | 01/02/08
OK, Firefox for Linux instals Google Search as the default  bka1959 | 01/02/08
Duh. Something has to be the default...  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
Duh, The point is Mozilla gets PAID to make Google the Default  bka1959 | 01/02/08
You think that's a POINT??  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
Re: You think that's a POINT??  bka1959 | 01/02/08
So what?  santuccie | 01/02/08
Re: Re: You think that's a POINT??  none none | 01/02/08
it doesn't install  tombalablomba | 01/02/08
Picking a nit, Whats the difrence bettween  bka1959 | 01/02/08
The difference is...  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
Google is the default, but there are others in there to.  hkommedal | 01/08/08
PS. The GOS is Ubuntu BUNDLED with a LOT  bka1959 | 01/02/08
But the Windows media player IS OS level...  Linux User 147560 | 01/02/08
And you are missing my point, that being that  bka1959 | 01/02/08
What is your point?  santuccie | 01/02/08
Re: And you are missing my point, that being that  none none | 01/02/08
It will happen...  McNee | 01/03/08
You gotta pick someone  santuccie | 01/02/08
I love Fishing, I always catch the Idiots!!!!!  bka1959 | 01/02/08
In other words...  bmerc | 01/03/08
buying a package at walmart is NOT installing something...  shryko | 01/02/08
Until there is a significant consumer lash-back...  tem.digital | 01/03/08
Linux and windows are apples and pears  seannj427 | 01/03/08
Manually configure Mplayer?????  tracy anne | 01/04/08
Re: Manually configure Mplayer?????  none none | 01/04/08
It's difficult enough to do - LEGALLY in the US....  drprod@... | 01/04/08
Wow?? Time for a reality check...  RS9 | 01/03/08
You hit the nail on the head.  tem.digital | 01/04/08
Bundling backfires.  dave.leigh@... | 01/02/08
True, but  Thore | 01/02/08
I think that's reasonable, too. (NT)  dave.leigh@... | 01/03/08
Say Yes to grammar checkers!  ariepert | 01/02/08
Good call...  RicD_ | 01/02/08
Apple!  bmgoodman | 01/02/08
Speaking of Apple... I-Tunes  redtrain65 | 01/02/08
iTunes uses Quicktime  Richard Flude | 01/02/08
iTunes needs Quicktime...  arminw | 01/03/08
Love to hate  Chiatzu | 01/03/08
I stopped...  no_zd_user_name | 01/02/08
just wait...  ariepert | 01/02/08
Certainly... for proprietary applications  Michael Kelly | 01/02/08
I always do a custom install on the Windows side  John L. Ries | 01/02/08
I would be curious  alaniane@... | 01/03/08
Bundled is OK, load without consent is not.  JonathonDoe | 01/02/08
Linux is still better when it comes to unwanted bundling  Linux Geek | 01/02/08
It will happen  TripleII | 01/02/08
Not that I can tell...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/02/08
re; Not that I can tell... EH????  deaf_e_kate | 01/03/08
Got me building my own machines  Chad_z | 01/02/08
Adrian, How about saying "No" to cross-site scripting (XSS)  johnf76@... | 01/02/08
I Agree About Bundling  DaffyDuck | 01/02/08
No joke  gene_fitz@... | 01/02/08
I hate it  bobiroc | 01/02/08
The worst is when bundling is with drivers.  osreinstall | 01/02/08
Decrapify is my friend and just say NO...  mikifinaz1@... | 01/02/08
pathetic tricks of google-ware  pupkin_z | 01/02/08
That's why...  kcredden2 | 01/02/08
RE: Say  SamCrawford_z | 01/02/08
To Whom It May Concern...  Dr. John | 01/02/08
CyberLink hard-sell  Jim Johnson | 01/02/08
Yahoo messenger installed beta version of a third party software  alokgovil | 01/02/08
Apple should be renamed bobble  seannj427 | 01/03/08
Second Life and Bundled Apps  Doc Disco | 01/03/08
Evev EA is doing it...  micheleh@... | 01/03/08
Someone asked about end users ...  Kasey156 | 01/04/08
Say No to Bundled Apps  dfweigel@... | 01/04/08
Trading short term gains for long term client base  dshawk | 01/08/08
RE: Say  Darkamster2004 | 01/23/08

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