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February 6th, 2008

Does a compelling product make you overlook the built-in DRM?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 5:57 am

Categories: DRM

Tags: Digital-rights Management, built-In, Microsoft Xbox 360, Microsoft Xbox, Jeff, Digital Rights Management (DRM), Digital Media, Game Players, Security, Consumer Electronics

Let’s say there was a compelling product on sale that interested you.  Maybe it’s a games console, or maybe it’s a player of some kind.  Or it could even be a service such as iTunes or Audible.  Let’s say that you really wanted what this product or service had to offer but in your research you discover baked-in DRM of one kind or another.  You want the product or service but you’re aware that there’s DRM involved that could be a problem in the future. 

Does a compelling product make you overlook the built-in DRM?My question is this - Does a compelling product make you overlook the built-in DRM?

What actually got me thinking about this was a post made by Jeff Atwood on his blog relating to DRM and how ignorance of it can be expensive.  Jeff’s just bought an Xbox 360 and have to re-buy the content that he’d bought on an Xbox 360 that he had at work:

I’ve purchased lots of downloadable content on the Xbox 360 at work, primarily new songs for Guitar Hero 2, Guitar Hero 3, and Rock Band. I foolishly assumed all along that it would be no big deal to transfer that purchased content if I ever purchased an Xbox 360 for my home.

Big mistake.

In the end, I broke down and re-purchased 11,240 MS Points worth of Guitar Hero 2, Guitar Hero 3, and Rock Band songs through my personal Xbox Live profile on my home Xbox 360. If you’re keeping score at home that’s $140.50 in real money. To buy the exact same content. Again.

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Now Jeff’s a pretty smart guy and for him to fall into a trap that cost him nearly a hundred and fifty green ones shows just what a minefield DRM is. 

But then in the back and forth of the comments section of that post Jeff says something that’s very interesting:

I think the iPhone and Xbox 360 are such compelling consumer products that it’s actually a reasonable tradeoff to live with their DRM lock-in limitations.

As Frans [someone commenting on the blog] pointed out, I could boycott the Xbox 360 and go PS3, but that’s trading one set of problems for another. I am *mightily* impressed that Sony allows you to copy downloaded content to five different PS3s, though.

Similarly, I could boycott the iPhone (or hack/unlock it, which I do not believe is a sustainible [sic] medium or long term solution)– but honestly, no other smartphone comes close to the iPhone in terms of features and internet browsing experience.

I’m now back full circle to my initial question - Does a compelling product make you overlook the built-in DRM?  Well, does it?

Speaking personally, I’m no fan of DRM but I’m not allergic to the point of anaphylaxis either.  For example, I have a subscription to Audible.com that gives me two DRM-loaded audio books a month.  I’ve bought content from iTunes (but only because I’ve been given gift cards and vouchers … I’ve not personally paid for any content other than the iPod touch software update).  I have an extensive DVD collection.  I don’t have any content on Blu-ray or HD-DVD, but that’s not because of the DRM as much as I don’t feel the need to go HD.  I have a Wii and a PS2.  I also have an extensive PC games library that requires a lot of jigging about if I want to play the games without juggling discs. 

Where do you draw the line between a cool product and the restrictions put in place by the baked-in DRM?  Do you buy into something irrespective of the DRM or does the presence of DRM prevent you from going through with purchases?

Thoughts?

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Never  voska1 | 02/06/08
I don't mind it  tombalablomba | 02/06/08
DRM has always been about  frgough | 02/06/08
To be fair  A.Sinic | 02/06/08
Sure, but...  techboy_z | 02/06/08
Not really  philipralban@... | 02/06/08
Actually, It DID start a long time ago.  Zorched | 02/07/08
There are no compelling products with DRM.  TripleII | 02/06/08
DRM is not CRAP  s_souche | 02/06/08
Not sure what you mean?  TripleII | 02/06/08
DRM offers new technical capabilities  s_souche | 02/06/08
DRM problems with content  voska1 | 02/06/08
DRM are not just about music and movies  s_souche | 02/06/08
Sure DRM has uses  voska1 | 02/06/08
Oops mistake here, answer was meant for TripleII  s_souche | 02/06/08
You are confusing security with DRM.  TripleII | 02/06/08
wrong assumption  SpikeyMike | 02/06/08
You need a technichological edumacashun  Ole Man | 02/06/08
as already said  s_souche | 02/06/08
What I object to is...  cornpie | 02/07/08
Follow Up: That's why DRM is taking a long time to die.  TripleII | 02/06/08
Too true, but  A.Sinic | 02/06/08
Assumes everyone is a theif.  TripleII | 02/06/08
You get it wrong  s_souche | 02/06/08
Everything evolves.  TripleII | 02/06/08
happy  s_souche | 02/06/08
re: assumes everyone is a thief  drprodny | 02/07/08
No Strawman  TripleII | 02/07/08
not like that  s_souche | 02/07/08
Disagree...  techboy_z | 02/06/08
Same old problem  mdemuth | 02/06/08
Exactly  drprodny | 02/07/08
Re: Too true, but  none none | 02/07/08
That is the compelling correct answer  Ole Man | 02/06/08
There is some support for moving content  NonZealot | 02/06/08
The first problem is to find the information  s_souche | 02/06/08
Only if it's not a total lockdown  AbbydonKrafts | 02/06/08
As already said, DRM is not about protection  TripleII | 02/06/08
Most Never Think  bmgoodman | 02/06/08
Most of them  Ole Man | 02/06/08
I am One person  jacarter3 | 02/06/08
FSVO "compelling"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 02/06/08
I avoid DRM limitations  Joe_Racer | 02/06/08
You mean like Vista or OS X?  jorjitop | 02/06/08
Under duress...  techboy_z | 02/06/08
Funny posts...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/08
Indeed!  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
"CDs" have attempted to become infected.  TripleII | 02/06/08
Easily bypassed, even blocked.  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
Was pulling a "Cox"  TripleII | 02/06/08
ok, lol (nt)  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
Excuse me?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/08
CDs have no encryption by default . . .  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
I meant to say DRM, not encryption  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
acceptance  merc2dogs` | 02/06/08
Agreed  CobraA1 | 02/07/08
Yes, but DVDs ARE copy-protected  drprodny | 02/07/08
No DRM on CDs and DVDs  voska1 | 02/06/08
Spliting a hair...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/08
Analog Hole is NOT a "hack", Ax - and Inquisitor General Gonzalez is GONE!  drprodny | 02/07/08
Re: Funny posts...  none none | 02/06/08
The fact your a hacker means nothing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/06/08
Sure it does  voska1 | 02/06/08
Re: Sure it does  none none | 02/06/08
No, it means  mdemuth | 02/06/08
Re: No, it means  none none | 02/07/08
Agreed, Mdemuth  drprodny | 02/07/08
Re: The fact your a hacker means nothing.  none none | 02/06/08
He probably just downloaded some tools  CobraA1 | 02/07/08
Re: He probably just downloaded some tools  none none | 02/07/08
Does the work?  voska1 | 02/06/08
Re: Does the work?  none none | 02/06/08
Let me guess  DarthRidiculous | 02/06/08
Audible Does it Right  Rob Oakes | 02/06/08
No ITunes for that reason.  Scubajrr | 02/06/08
Well the iPod has no drm restrictions ????  mrOSX | 02/06/08
360 at work??  CobraA1 | 02/06/08
If the product is of value to me ....  kd5auq | 02/06/08
RE: Does+a+compelling+product+make+you+overlook+the+built-in+DRM%3F  philipralban@... | 02/06/08
i wanted to say no...  lostarchitect | 02/06/08
Sometimes is different for different folks  ridingthewind | 02/06/08
An dat's de truut  Ole Man | 02/06/08
Nope...  BitTwiddler | 02/06/08
300+ purchases myself  TripleII | 02/06/08
I wanted to say NO! too, but...  BanzaiBill | 02/06/08
Only if it's essential  buzzl | 02/06/08
Won't touch anything that uses DRM  tracy anne | 02/06/08
ME 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!n/t  btljooz | 02/06/08
Me three!  Ole Man | 02/06/08
Millions find the Home Shopping Network compelling ...  terry flores | 02/06/08
It still has a humongus impact on your bottom line  Ole Man | 02/06/08
I only pay what products with DRM are worth...  {DvT}Hex | 02/06/08
No way.  Henry Miller | 02/06/08
Wham!!!!!  Ole Man | 02/06/08
Artist?s popularity vs corp earnings  news_reader | 02/06/08
No  roaming | 02/06/08
RE: Does+a+compelling+product+make+you+overlook+the+built-in+DRM%3F  msupert@... | 02/07/08
DRM is why I will avoid HD DVD & digital TV cables as long as possible  jayk_z | 02/07/08
Its the content that counts...  cornpie | 02/07/08
RE: Does+a+compelling+product+make+you+overlook+the+built-in+DRM%3F  atari8bit@... | 02/07/08

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