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June 26th, 2008

Fun with openSUSE 11.0

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 8:47 am

Categories: My Linux Experience

Tags: Ubuntu, LiveCD, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Not a single post I make about Ubuntu goes by without at least one of you making some comment about my distro of choice and suggesting that I try some other distro. Well, never let it be said that I don’t listen to you - so this week I decided to take openSUSE 11.0 for a spin.

openSUSE 11.0I first downloaded the 64-bit LiveCD KDE4 version of openSUSE and took this one for a spin. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get the LiveCD to load either on a physical PC or a virtual PC - each time KWin crashed at startup, threw up an error message and the system locked up. Rather than getting caught up trying to figure out what was wrong I abandoned 64-bit KDE4 and instead sent for the 32-bit GNOME openSUSE LiveCD instead.

Check out the openSUSE 11.0 gallery

After a less than promising start, I was expecting more problems with openSUSE, but the 32-bit GNOME version seemed to play well on both physical and virtual systems, so I stuck with this.

openSUSE 11.0After running Ubuntu for a few months it’s hard not to compare openSUSE to it, and the first thing that struck me was how sluggish running the LiveCD of openSUSE felt compared to all Ubuntu LiveCDs I’ve tried. I even went back to an Ubuntu LiveCD to check out if it was just my memory or whether openSUSE did indeed feel sluggish, and it did. No idea why. However, that said, a LiveCD is a temporary thing so I didn’t dwell on the performance issues of the LiveCD too much and just hoped that an actual installation of openSUSE wouldn’t feel as kludgy.

On to the installation.

openSUSE 11.0Installing openSUSE is a snap and I didn’t have any problems. Comparing it to installing Vista or Ubuntu, I’d say that the process is no more complicated, although what I would go as far as to say is that the setup process isn’t as friendly as Ubuntu’s, and it consists of more steps that Vista’s setup process. Given this I’d say that Ubuntu is more friendly to the newbie, but getting openSUSE onto a system shouldn’t be a problem for anyone who has previously installed an OS or a major suite of applications.

Once installed I was pleased to find that openSUSE had picked up the pace quite considerably and the sluggish kludgyness I’d experience with the LiveCD was gone. openSUSE 1.0 was both snappy and responsive, apart from the first time I ran OpenOffice, which caused things to enter that “swimming through molasses” phase and made me wonder more than once whether I’d locked up the system. I hadn’t, and the feeling passed after a few minutes.

So, what do I think of openSUSE?

openSUSE 11.0Overall, I like openSUSE 11.0. After deciding to ignore my troubles with the 64-bit LiveCD KDE4 version of openSUSE and the slowness of the LiveCD, openSUSE certainly seems like a nice, well-rounded OS. Also, while overall I feel that Ubuntu is more newbie friendly, openSUSE starts off by being more pleasing on the eye - the green look (to me at any rate) seems more elegant and less scary.

Then there are the GNOME menus. I have to say that after months of using Ubuntu, I prefer the GNOME menu as seen on openSUSE. Maybe as I use the two distros side by side this feeling will wear off, but right now I prefer openSUSE. Come to that, I think I prefer the entire default openSUSE theme over the Ubuntu one.

I’m told that because of Novell/Microsoft ties, OpenOffice as shipped with openSUSE has more features than the stock OO.o shipped with Ubuntu. I need to investigate this further to have an opinion on the matter (although I can say right away that I don’t have an issue with the politics of this deal …).

I still have a lot of investigating to do, however, in the interim I think that if I had to choose between Ubuntu and openSUSE, Ubuntu would be the winner - familiarity is a key factor.

Things I’ve learned …

A few things I’ve learned, in no particular order …

  • There are other worthwhile distros apart from Ubuntu.
  • The more OSes you add to the mix, the harder it becomes to be OS agnostic.
  • The perfect OS is probably mythical …

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Red Hat has nothing to do with this sort of thing
In fact they've stayed as far away from this peculiar crowd of people as they can.

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Virtualized OpenSUSE 11.0  NamelessFor Now | 06/26/08
You should be using SUN xVM VirtualBox 1.6.2  D. T. Schmitz | 06/26/08
Mandriva is a lot better  Uralbas | 06/29/08
Mandriva IS beter  catseverywhere@... | 06/30/08
Mandriva my fav  nuplugtech@... | 07/01/08
64-bit  D. T. Schmitz | 06/26/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 06/26/08
Agreed  Tim Patterson | 06/26/08
3.5.9--100% feature replication  D. T. Schmitz | 06/27/08
The biggest KDE 4 isssue is...  TtfnJohn | 06/27/08
Amen to that ...  K-JAC | 06/27/08
I agree with this 100%!  bssnyder@... | 06/27/08
Never again trust Novell and Microsoft together  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/26/08
Could you give us specific examples please?  NonZealot | 06/26/08
Novell lost market share to Microsoft  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/26/08
Then you bring up a disturbing question  Pliny the Elder | 06/27/08
OpenSource Community vs. Users???  b.bob | 06/27/08
Not True  rkuhn040172@... | 06/27/08
You're right....  storm14k | 06/27/08
OpenSource Community vs. Users..What?  jimk_z | 06/29/08
Considering the source of some of these comments  TtfnJohn | 06/27/08
Dealing with the Devil  chromeronin | 06/28/08
Sigh  TtfnJohn | 07/11/08
You made the assertion...  wolf_z | 06/27/08
He has no examples  TtfnJohn | 06/27/08
Novell and OpenSource  kjgslg@... | 06/28/08
I have to agree with you  masinick@... | 06/27/08
Personal vs Corporate  stomfi@... | 06/27/08
OK chicken little...  socialism=nowhere | 06/27/08
Typical RedHatted FUD  TakeIT2 | 06/27/08
Red Hat, is like dependable friend..  ismetd | 06/29/08
Red Hat is a safe bet  nuplugtech@... | 07/01/08
Red Hat has nothing to do with this sort of thing  TtfnJohn | 07/11/08
RE:Never again trust Novell and Microsoft together  me19562 | 06/30/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  LinuxandMacforlife | 06/26/08
KDE 4  alex_b | 06/26/08
why?  LinuxandMacforlife | 06/26/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 06/27/08
What happened when you  markdean | 06/27/08
OpenSUSE 11.0 w/ KDE 4  devlin_X | 06/26/08
The sad thing about 10.3 package management...  NonZealot | 06/26/08
acronym  Tim Patterson | 06/26/08
Don't waste your time with KDE4  D. T. Schmitz | 06/27/08
Don't waste your time with OpenSUSE LIve KDE CD  TtfnJohn | 06/27/08
Not to mention other weird things  markdean | 06/27/08
There is supposed to be a standard...  TtfnJohn | 06/27/08
RE: Don't waste your time with OpenSUSE LIve KDE CD  devlin_X | 06/27/08
Thanks for the tip!  devlin_X | 06/27/08
Prune unneeded services  D. T. Schmitz | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  doug@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  doug@... | 06/27/08
Funny about the security model of SUSE  rhomp2002@... | 06/27/08
since novell made the deal with MS  Quebec-french | 06/27/08
reminds me of an old saying...  mombo | 06/27/08
LOL! - nt  socialism=nowhere | 06/27/08
Another Chicken Little but then again...I see the location  socialism=nowhere | 06/27/08
Lots of people did the same  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/28/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  Rambo Tribble | 06/27/08
SLED is stable Enterprise SW, openSUSE is community software  masinick@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  Vadim P. | 06/27/08
Adrian, I want you to try out....  mikeholli | 06/27/08
Open Solaris does not support enough hardware  rhomp2002@... | 06/27/08
What BSD based systems tend to lack  masinick@... | 06/27/08
What do you mean?  Necrolin | 06/28/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  akramarshad@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  fike@... | 06/27/08
Say WHAT fike?  mikeholli | 06/27/08
But, WHY, Mike?  Isocrates | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  geez54 | 06/27/08
OpenSuse 11.0  whooliebacon | 06/27/08
PCLinuxOS, SimplyMEPIS  masinick@... | 06/27/08
OpenSuse . . .?  Isocrates | 06/27/08
Try Ubuntu or PCLinuxOS  balaknair | 06/27/08
YaST Package Manager cs Synaptic  chromeronin | 06/28/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  markdean | 06/27/08
Mostly Web based usage  masinick@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  masinick@... | 06/27/08
But that's true of all the mainline distros  markdean | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  srberry1@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  john.jay.moore@... | 06/27/08
Linux is Linux...  gmureddu@... | 06/27/08
"familiarity is a key factor"  davidr69 | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  chagrinnedtob@... | 06/27/08
Did you try KDE (not 4.0)  TripleII | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  Old-Navy | 06/27/08
Suggestions Enclosed  TripleII | 06/27/08
Make sure you select burn image.  TripleII | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  hufflepuff | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  Linux User 147560 | 06/27/08
Attention Adrian Kingsley-Hughes  chessmen | 06/27/08
VM under [open]Suse  ZEEK0 | 07/01/08
And what would that mythical OS have within?  TG2 | 06/27/08
I was was forced to choose between Ubuntu and openSUSE  tracy anne | 06/27/08
Mandriva still my favorite  nuplugtech@... | 07/01/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  htroque@... | 06/27/08
Take 'features because of interoperability agreement' claims with a handful  odubtaig | 06/27/08
why review something...  stylemessiah@... | 06/27/08
Why read reviews (sorry, blogged opinions)...  Galoot_z | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  wendellsessions | 06/27/08
Amazing.  joe.smetona@... | 06/28/08
I've rebuilt...  joe.smetona@... | 06/28/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  znmeb | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  ramnet@... | 06/27/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  PeterPac | 06/27/08
I read them all. If I had read them first there is no way I'd have tried  deowll | 06/27/08
Misleading  Andy Goss | 06/28/08
Not much to it at all - Much easier than any Windows.  joe.smetona@... | 06/29/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  RETSEL | 06/27/08
I hate Micro$oft  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/27/08
But what about  royalstream | 06/28/08
I laugh at Windows users  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/28/08
Breaking News!  royalstream | 06/30/08
Get an education  ZDNET_guest666 | 06/30/08
Re: Get an education  royalstream | 07/03/08
Good for you McKiddles  jimk_z | 06/29/08
Fun With What I Learned Today: Give the Tin Man a heart.  TakeIT2 | 06/28/08
You're scary...  alexDaPez | 06/28/08
Scary, I suppose... Dude  TakeIT2 | 06/29/08
Alex?? hahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha  mikeholli | 06/30/08
openSUSE 1.0?  Suicida| | 06/28/08
openSUSE/Ubuntu VM install  cfc1960 | 06/28/08
No Fun with openSUSE 11.0  DutchSpirit | 06/29/08
Hey DutchSpirit  mikeholli | 06/30/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  The Rifleman | 06/29/08
In regards to "Ubuntu lost me"  LazLong | 06/29/08
Vote Novell dealing with MS  Uralbas | 06/29/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  chuck_gregory@... | 06/30/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  pete_doh_clapham@... | 06/30/08
There isn't anything left for me to do  softwareFlunky | 06/30/08
Forget about openSUSE 11.0  mikeholli | 06/30/08
Try LinuxMint 5.0 Elyssa  M.W.H. | 07/01/08
mispost  royalstream | 07/02/08
RE: Fun with openSUSE 11.0  trenchsol | 07/08/08

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