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June 26th, 2008

Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 12:32 pm

Categories: Software, Thoughts

Tags: Mozilla Firefox, Phone, Mozilla Thunderbird, Mozilla Corp., E-mail Clients, Web Browsers, Software, Internet, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Several of you have emailed me to let me know of a Firefox and Thunderbird feature that you might not be aware of  - both applications phone home on a daily basis.

Here’s the info as posted on Reddit:

I found this out a few days after I decided to start using Thunderbird and created strict firewall rules as a precaution.

I noticed that Thunderbird would, for no reason at all, sometimes try to contact a server over SSL. I looked up the ip address 63.245.213.32 and found it belonged to Mozilla.

On researching the problem further I found that the cause of the connection is a feature that cannot be disabled from any menu, only the about:config configuration page.

Look up extensions.blocklist.enabled for more information. It’s present in Firefox also and is enabled even if all the options are disabled through the menus.

What this tells Mozilla each day:

- IP address
- What time you were using the product
- What exact version number you were using
- If you are using any of the plugins or addons sent in the disabled list
- Total number of active users of their software

More info on this feature over on the Mozilla support site (this link also shows you how to disable this phone home feature). Seems that this is related to checking the extensions blocklist for malicious add-ons (won’t a malicious add-on just disable the check feature???).

Personally, I’m not too fussed about this feature, but I can understand why some folks are getting hot under the collar.

Thoughts?

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"Heck, I'm paranoid as hell, and this doesn't concern me the slightest. Extensions going rogue and uploading your passwords is far scarier than checking an extension blocklist every day. Have you read... (Read the rest)
Posted by: ADGDGY Posted on: 10/14/08  (Edited: 10/14/08 @ 04:57) You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Unacceptable  none none | 06/26/08
Thanks for the info  John L. Ries | 06/26/08
Thanks from me too  Sagax- | 06/29/08
Firefox = Spyware!  cnfrisch | 06/26/08
firefox != spyware  wrat@... | 06/26/08
This is something Microsoft has been doing for sometime now.  Intellihence | 06/26/08
Really? What does Windows  Pliny the Elder | 06/26/08
Yup. All of the above.  CobraA1 | 06/26/08
Interesting  Pliny the Elder | 06/26/08
it also used to send back what music/films you play  deaf_e_kate | 06/27/08
Automatic Updates is opt-in only.  PB_z | 06/26/08
What about WGA?  JCitizen | 06/27/08
However, if you don't opt-in..  msalzberg | 06/27/08
Not always opt-in  mystic100 | 06/29/08
Besides the previously mentioned,  devlin_X | 06/29/08
NO BIAS. Most users switched to Firefox...  bjbrock | 06/26/08
Problem is  Pliny the Elder | 06/26/08
Firefox 3 on EXT3 partitions....  pjotr123 | 06/26/08
Hum  none none | 06/26/08
You're welcome! This may interest you as well....  pjotr123 | 06/27/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  wrat@... | 06/26/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  bfilipiak@... | 06/26/08
Looks like basic update checks  CobraA1 | 06/26/08
Right  Greenknight_z | 07/04/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  The Rifleman | 06/26/08
If you read the Firefox web site  k12IT | 06/26/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  jevans27 | 06/27/08
RE: "Not too stressed about it"  hornerea | 06/27/08
see post below  n0neXn0ne | 06/27/08
oh yeah?  n0neXn0ne | 06/27/08
As well they prudently should!!  Teyecoon | 07/15/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  pessimist | 06/27/08
Have you actually read the article?  devlin_X | 06/29/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  Old Timer 8080 | 06/27/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  byter_z | 06/27/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  fjcaherfr | 06/27/08
Just let us know so that we can choose for ourselves  masinick@... | 06/27/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  Neil.Primmer | 06/27/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  Barry ZA | 06/27/08
get a life.....  stylemessiah@... | 06/27/08
get a life indeed...  terminalman | 06/28/08
You all fell for it?  Greenknight_z | 07/04/08
Big. Fat. Hairy. Deal.  anomalous4 | 06/28/08
p.s.  anomalous4 | 06/28/08
So what if it phones home... read into this more  rebelxhardcore | 06/28/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  Barry ZA | 06/30/08
Of course they do  jackbond | 06/30/08
...phone home daily- Windows security patches arrive w/o known connection..  bill_abbott_iv | 06/30/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  balaknair | 07/02/08
RE: Firefox and Thunderbird phone home daily  njneiljones100@... | 07/02/08
Some replies from original post on Reddit  ADGDGY | 10/14/08

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