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July 15th, 2008

Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 7:02 am

Categories: Apple, Legal

Tags: District, Apple Inc., Productivity, Manufacturing, Tools & Techniques, Management, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

LATEST: Apple wants Psystar to snatch back Mac clones from customers!

[UPDATE 07/15 14:15pm PDT: A note to those who think that this suit is about EULAs ... Psystar did a LOT more than breach the terms of the EULA. The company, through its own admission, modified the copyrighted work, then distributed those modifications without license and for commercial purposes. The company also used at least one Apple trademark in its marketing.

If this was just about the EULA, Apple's case might not be that strong (remember, the EULA's never been tested in court), but this goes way beyond the EULA.]

It seems that Apple has grown tired of Mac-clone Psystar and has filed suit against the Florida company at the federal district court for the northern district of California.

psystar_logo.pngThe initial imformation came my way via lawyer Jorge Espinosa’s blog (he’s a lawyer who specializes in domestic and international protection of trademarks and copyrights):

Apple, Inc., manufacturer of the well known line of computers and software, filed suit on July 3 in the federal district court for the northern district of California against Florida company Psystar, Inc.   The suit alleges counts for violation of its shrink wrap license, trademark and copyright infringement.

Apple vs Psystar 

I think that this pretty much spells the end for Psystar. The company has been pushing its luck for some time now, and now the fun is over.

Downloads (PDFs): 

Larry Dignan over on Between the Lines believes that the complaint isn’t available because the case is sealed … we’ll have to wait and see.

[UPDATE 07/15 10:30 am PDT: Seems the complaint is available.  No electronic copy yet. Larry Dignan has posted the gist of it:

"We have the complaint–sorry it’s hard copy–but will post excerpts in an upcoming post. Here’s the short version: Apple is great. Psystar isn’t. Psystar used Apple’s intellectual property and diluted the Apple brand to boot."

Pretty much as expected then.]

[UPDATE 07/15 11:45am PDT: Sam Diaz has information about the complaint here.

"The 16-page document, filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, states that, in April of this year, Psystar began selling a computer called OpenMac (later renamed Open Computer), which apparently runs a “modified unauthorized version of the Leopard operating system.” It further alleges that, in June, Psystar began selling rack-mount servers called the OpenServ 100 and Open Serv 2400 - products that again run Leopard."

Not only did Psystar cut in on Apple's desktop business, but also on the server segment - not a good idea. But it gets worse for Psystar:

"At the heart of the complaint, though, is the allegation that Psystar’s products are junk and are harming Apple because they are 'advertised and promoted in a manner that falsely and unfairly implies an affiliation with Apple.'"

Apple is also worried about quality. Here's a quote from the complaint:

"Online commentators have reported that Psystar’s computer is “missing stuff like iLife, Bluetooth. an IR receiver, DVD burning and the ability to update your computer,” is “LOUD, Crazy Loud,” it “breaks the OS’ automatic updates,” and that “video was DOA right out of the box. No signal going to monitor Boot up is moot point as there is nothing to see.” Of Psystar itself reviewers have written “they have no quality control,” “lousy tech support,” and “All I want to do is return the computer and get a refund.” Likewise, it has been reported that Psystar has repeatedly changed location, this its office could not be found and that its first on-line payment processor terminated Psystar’s account."]

Does this spell the end of the line for Mac clones?

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..........  bdniner | 07/15/08
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words  Daiv_Skinner | 07/15/08
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Gas can versus the gas  mikebellman | 07/15/08
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EULA genius  Darryl365 | 07/15/08
exscuse that  Darryl365 | 07/15/08
Incredibly dumb "straw man" argument.  Magicman73 | 07/15/08
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RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  Starman35 | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  nfiertel | 07/15/08
I will shed no tears for Psystar...  Mac Hosehead | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  gary@... | 07/15/08
I think Apple has a non law suit way of stopping clones  derbaff | 07/15/08
ummm  mnpundit | 07/15/08
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Re: What about reinstalls?  derbaff | 07/15/08
I have a leopard disc that does exactly this...  shrimphead | 07/16/08
Backwards  jragosta | 07/15/08
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truly you have a dizzying intellect  frgough | 07/15/08
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I understood what he was saying  NonZealot | 07/15/08
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Not at all  jragosta | 07/16/08
They confuse OS upgrade with license upgrade  NonZealot | 07/16/08
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Sometimes, the little guy can win  Daiv_Skinner | 07/15/08
Trademark  jragosta | 07/15/08
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Legal  jragosta | 07/15/08
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Well there is room for argument here  Daiv_Skinner | 07/15/08
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Exactly right  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Try it  jragosta | 07/15/08
I hold no double standards  NonZealot | 07/15/08
They do it all the time  jragosta | 07/15/08
Then I say BOOOO TO MICROSOFT!  NonZealot | 07/15/08
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Seems they are quite behind  laura.b | 07/15/08
Wrong....  jragosta | 07/16/08
You don't have to believe me  laura.b | 07/16/08
OK, Try it  jragosta | 07/16/08
Someone did...  wolf_z | 07/16/08
Really, now?  laura.b | 07/16/08
Here's a link:  msalzberg | 07/16/08
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hate to dissapoint you,  nfhiggs@... | 07/16/08
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Your basic premise is wrong!  macbill | 07/15/08
You know ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  mac@... | 07/15/08
Great idea  jragosta | 07/15/08
Not quite...  wolf_z | 07/16/08
Rocket Scientist?  michael.detroit@... | 07/15/08
can't resist  mac@... | 07/15/08
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RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  tymiles | 07/15/08
Countersuit Coming?  benaroundawhile | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  Hempman | 07/15/08
Apple doesnt have anything against Pystar  kokuryu | 07/15/08
Not a mistake  jragosta | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  dhays | 07/15/08
"more than like never will." Those who live in Glass Houses  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 07/15/08
Or yours...  zenotek | 07/15/08
I'm surprised no one is asking why, and why now?  Scrat | 07/15/08
My guess as to why it took so long ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 07/15/08
One detail here...no ruling yet  TtfnJohn | 07/15/08
..and perhaps...  msalzberg | 07/15/08
My guess as to why it took so long ...  Daiv_Skinner | 07/15/08
Hardly surprised at the talkbacks supporting anti-competitive behavior  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Anticompetitive?  jragosta | 07/15/08
Think about what you just said.  NonZealot | 07/15/08
YOU think.  jragosta | 07/15/08
But, but, but, Apple doesn't compete in budget market  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Another stupid argument  jragosta | 07/15/08
WRONG ANALOGY  cesarbravov | 07/15/08
I see what you're suggesting, but..  eMJayy | 07/15/08
So, since Apple doesn't compete..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
@msalzberg: Thanks, you just destroyed your argument  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Ford engines  jragosta | 07/15/08
@jragosta: Are you saying msalzberg's argument was a bad argument?  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Strawman  jragosta | 07/15/08
It was msalzberg's analogy  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Ah, Zealot, are you deliberately misstating..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
Reap the wind  Hemlock Stones | 07/15/08
I guess....  jragosta | 07/15/08
Brilliant.  msalzberg | 07/15/08
I quoted the story  NonZealot | 07/15/08
No, you quoted yourself..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
Wow, you sure disproved my point!  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Well, you're the one..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  roybjr@... | 07/15/08
Amazing  jragosta | 07/15/08
It's karma...  eMJayy | 07/15/08
Difference  jragosta | 07/15/08
No observed difference in behavior...  eMJayy | 07/15/08
Nope  jragosta | 07/15/08
But...  eMJayy | 07/15/08
Do As I Say, Not As I Do!  John Westra | 07/15/08
If you feel that..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  derbaff | 07/15/08
RE: I don't know...  dwtinfo@... | 07/15/08
Huh?  jragosta | 07/15/08
Best OS on the planet??  FatherJ | 07/15/08
Best  jragosta | 07/15/08
Huh?  j.m.galvin | 07/15/08
"Next time you try to deploy 500 Macs..."  scotts13 | 07/15/08
Re: "Are you one of those trolls Apple hires to post pro-Apple stuff..."  Scrat | 07/17/08
Not even close  jragosta | 07/17/08
I totally agree  NonZealot | 07/15/08
ROTFLMAO  jragosta | 07/15/08
JAZ (just another zealot)  Hemlock Stones | 07/15/08
Are you paid by Apple and/or receive monies from them?  dwtinfo@... | 07/15/08
ROTFLMAO  jragosta | 07/15/08
Well...  ZachE84 | 07/15/08
Funny  jragosta | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  lefty.crupps | 07/15/08
Monopoly anyone?  Spideyguy | 07/15/08
What Monopoly?  clarnT | 07/15/08
Monopoly-Monopoly  elderlybloke | 07/16/08
Huh?  msalzberg | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  seannj427 | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  phatkat | 07/15/08
Sad  jragosta | 07/15/08
Very  Len Rooney | 07/16/08
@dhays  preachjohn | 07/15/08
WRONG ANALOGY  cesarbravov | 07/15/08
Why does Psystar have to pre-load OS X?  richard@... | 07/15/08
Because...  Hemlock Stones | 07/15/08
I wouldn't want to bother ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 07/15/08
I have...  alex_b | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  Old-Navy | 07/15/08
Bullying  Darryl365 | 07/15/08
Psystar is paying *retail*  wolf_z | 07/16/08
Apple needs to face reality  longbongsilver | 07/15/08
But they don't cost more!  Laraine Anne Barker | 07/15/08
Thats the whole point though.  HexHammer67 | 07/15/08
Exactly  longbongsilver | 07/21/08
I missed it  jragosta | 07/15/08
Accountability  Len Rooney | 07/16/08
Psystar stealing Apple's OS?  GiMMeABreak | 07/16/08
Buying it, and then...  msalzberg | 07/16/08
Stealing  jragosta | 07/16/08
Yeah, but...  nfhiggs@... | 07/16/08
Okay, I'm about sick....  Rick_K | 07/15/08
Why did you start with the Mac?  NonZealot | 07/15/08
I see WinZealot is...  Rick_K | 07/15/08
You can't complete the challenge?  NonZealot | 07/15/08
RE: The Dell Configuration Challenge  smarria@... | 07/17/08
He did EXACTLY what you did.  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/20/08
You're just silly.  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/20/08
Don't buy additional RAM from Apple...  3dtodd | 07/21/08
What took them so long?  Laraine Anne Barker | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  emcauley | 07/15/08
Sing Loud! THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR THE EULA!!!  emcauley | 07/15/08
Wrong  jragosta | 07/15/08
"A business has a right to control its distribution channels"  John L. Ries | 07/15/08
Wrong? Yes, you are.  emcauley | 07/15/08
The other thing is...  John L. Ries | 07/16/08
nope!  nfhiggs@... | 07/16/08
Would "fair use" come into play here?  richdave | 07/15/08
No  jragosta | 07/15/08
RE: No  richdave | 07/15/08
Not really  frgough | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  ol_pip | 07/15/08
Mac OS becoming Clonable  plovelace@... | 07/15/08
Yet another  jragosta | 07/15/08
The real idiot  Mectron | 07/15/08
Here's an important point:  nancyjones36507@... | 07/15/08
Confirmed: the death Psystar  Win3.1 | 07/15/08
Hakintosh vs. Psystar  Piplodocus | 07/15/08
Wow So much traffic here  Davinchy23 | 07/15/08
RE: Wow So much traffic here  richdave | 07/15/08
but Linux has crummy quality.  Pederson | 07/15/08
Actually,  eMJayy | 07/15/08
Some do  HexHammer67 | 07/15/08
Restrictive EULAs  tracy anne | 07/15/08
EULAs  markbn | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  markdean | 07/15/08
No shock  John L. Ries | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  Pederson | 07/15/08
Apple playing "Bet The Farm"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  tallgirlL | 07/15/08
You have to love their strategy  lenohere | 07/15/08
You have to love people who don't know anything about law  jragosta | 07/15/08
What I am saying is...  lenohere | 07/16/08
Again....  jragosta | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  paul@... | 07/15/08
Adrian, Looks Like You Opened a Whole Can of...  Kromaethius | 07/15/08
Adrian, Looks Like You Opened a Whole Can of...  markbn | 07/15/08
Chevy engine in a Ford car....  Narg | 07/15/08
Business model  jragosta | 07/15/08
Business model is EXACTLY the same  reziol | 07/15/08
The difference is that..  msalzberg | 07/15/08
No difference at all  reziol | 07/16/08
Actually, Shelby went to Chevy first...  msalzberg | 07/16/08
Disproves nothing  reziol | 07/16/08
I totally agree, and it is a great point!  NonZealot | 07/15/08
Consumers  jragosta | 07/16/08
Hehe, bet you don't apply that standard to MS protocols!  NonZealot | 07/16/08
Sure  jragosta | 07/16/08
Consumers  jragosta | 07/16/08
So ... if  macAndwin | 07/15/08
Of course not  jragosta | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  deowll | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  deowll | 07/15/08
Turn out the Lights  blackjack861@... | 07/15/08
They say so much tastes like chicken but Apples?  Fujikid2 | 07/15/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar-WHAT A DUMBTHING2DO!  vilppuu@... | 07/15/08
It's called "retail"  wolf_z | 07/16/08
'Retail'  jragosta | 07/16/08
VERY GOOD  MrViklund | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  cgarrett@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  alfeld | 07/16/08
Apple files stupid absurd suit against Psystar  alfeld | 07/16/08
You two girls need to just call on the phone  riveroad | 07/16/08
RE: Psystar site is down/now up  rem1010 | 07/16/08
Well, yeah. What did you expect?  ttocsmij | 07/16/08
Time to say "Buh-Bye"  Chiatzu | 07/16/08
If Microsoft forced us to buy machines from them...  Gazok | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  sawatzky | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  egionet@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  mjolnar@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  rjudd01@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  PhatSlacker | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  PhatSlacker | 07/16/08
Nothing like  WarriorOfFire | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  nair.ritesh@... | 07/16/08
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 07/16/08
That is the Catch 22  mhcactus | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  stardust_blue@... | 07/16/08
Even more affordable  elderlybloke | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  hpratt@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  mhcactus | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  KBall1 | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  joepeterson56@... | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  ProfTom | 07/16/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  jeff.fostermedia@... | 07/16/08
You can sell Microsoft Software...retail software, that is.  guyonearth | 07/16/08
Because most Apple users...  guyonearth | 07/16/08
Steve Jobs must need some money  Crestview | 07/16/08
Based on sales and margins of said......  James Quinn | 07/16/08
Psystar Will Soon Be a Punch Line in Intellectual Property Law Classes  Likewow | 07/16/08
perhaps you need the class  tBuggR | 07/17/08
Post-Psystar targets?  cquirke | 07/17/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  ThereThere | 07/17/08
RE: Confirmed: Apple files suit against Psystar  perryharley774@... | 07/17/08
Completely missed the point...  longbongsilver | 07/22/08
Apple ?! iPod? IPhone? Mactosh? Who?  Gradius2 | 08/29/08

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