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November 20th, 2008

How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 9:07 am

Categories: Apple, Marketing, Microsoft

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Apple Inc., Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), E-mail, Operating Systems, Microsoft Windows, Software, Online Communications, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

I’ve just been working my way through hundreds of emails released as part of the Vista Capable lawsuit (if you want to read along at home with me, you can download them from here) and there’s one phrase that keep coming across that might explain why Apple got the upper hand on Microsoft with Vista.

The phrase is “Good Better Best” and it’s used by Microsoft engineers and executives to describe the different different Windows Vista experience that users would get depending on the level of hardware available.

Now, I’m not going to argue that on many levels, different hardware will give you a different experience. For example, a better GPU will give you a better gaming experience, better CPU will make transcoding video faster, a bigger hard drive lets you store more data, a TV tuner lets you … well, you get the idea. But what happened with Windows Vista was that there was a transition point where the level of hardware (specifically the GPU) gave users a wholly different user interface experience. Whether you consider the Aero UI to be important or not, to the average consumer who’d seen Vista ads, it’s a tough deal to explain why their Vista looks different to the Vista on TV or the Vista they saw in the store.

Enter Apple and the Mac. Having handled a number of Macs one thing stands out - the Mac experience on one model is pretty much the same as the Mac experience you get on another model. In fact, you can take an old Mac and upgrade the OS and get pretty much the same experience as buying a new Mac. Sure, the speed won’t be the same, and how much you can store on the disk might be less, but the Mac experience doesn’t vary that much from system to system.

Bottom line, the Mac experience removes uncertainty. You can be totally oblivious to GPUs, MHz, Intel, AMD, SATA, ATI, NVIDIA, [insert pretty much any term you can think of] … buy a Mac, and get the same Mac experience as “Bill next door” or “Joe the Plumber.”

Too many flavors, too many uncertainties … I hope to see fewer of both of these as Windows 7 gets ready for launch. Microsoft needs to work closer with OEM partners to make the entry level as easy and as painless as possible for causal users who aren’t interested in what makes their PCs tick. Right now, given that 50% of those buying Macs are new to the platform, I’d guess that things aren’t as painless as they could be.

How much is certainty worth to the end user?

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Yes, and, with that strategy, the iPod, and iPhone, Apple now has about  DonnieBoy | 11/20/08
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MS don't make MP3 Players or Phones  mrjoctave@... | 11/21/08
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Oh smithie boy what can i say  mrjoctave@... | 11/21/08
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WRONG  mrjoctave@... | 11/21/08
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You misunderstand P/E Ratios.  UrbanBard | 11/20/08
All well and good, but. . . .  WinnebagoBoy | 11/21/08
indeed  andyILM | 11/21/08
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There aren't any real answers.  Sleeper Service | 11/20/08
User preference is a real answer  frgough | 11/20/08
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No...  MacCanuck | 11/20/08
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Kia outsells BMW too...  914four | 11/20/08
What's your point?  Sleeper Service | 11/20/08
Let me try again, slowly...  914four | 11/20/08
Seriously though, what's your point?  Sleeper Service | 11/21/08
My Point...  914four | 11/21/08
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Productivity  Yaalanhoo | 11/20/08
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From a Windows/Mac K-12 system admin  Pat Barr | 11/20/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  kitko | 11/20/08
Nice spin...try again.  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/20/08
RE: Its all perception!!!!  phess11 | 11/20/08
For how long?  Graham Ellison | 11/20/08
Actually...  914four | 11/20/08
...and Bill Gates has $60 Billion...  phess11 | 11/21/08
Billy used to have...  914four | 11/21/08
eom  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/20/08
Great! Become the Mac Dr. then  markbn | 11/20/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  gennx30 | 11/20/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  ebhb2004@... | 11/20/08
What's with your fixation on fewer versions?  notsofast | 11/20/08
I can tell you why I hate all those versions:  TristanGrimaux | 11/21/08
Vista Ultimate was only in price.  mystic100 | 11/23/08
We're now in RECESSION. Who needs an expensive desktop ORNAMENT...  transposeIT | 11/20/08
That's right.  SunnyGuy53 | 11/20/08
Man, you are ready for Linux!  TristanGrimaux | 11/21/08
Linux is for adventuresome people and there isn't many here today.  lightingrod | 11/21/08
Couldn't agree with you more....  8string | 11/20/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  SkateNY | 11/21/08
Adrian, go work for some MAC site....  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/21/08
Go Download A Virus  itanalyst2@... | 11/21/08
Very productive post (not)  mystic100 | 11/23/08
The argument for tighter control of hardware is a losing one  ibarskiy@... | 11/21/08
AT LAST  mrjoctave@... | 11/21/08
RE: Talkback -- ROFLMAO.....  Mr_Wizard | 11/21/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  abarten | 11/21/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  trm1945 | 11/21/08
Re all the above posts.......  AmanwithaMac | 11/21/08
yeah right  andyILM | 11/21/08
Re: yeah right  AmanwithaMac | 11/21/08
Apple has the upper hand?  progress76 | 11/21/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  zeebruce | 11/21/08
It's the OS, Intel Macs, and customer support  zeebruce | 11/21/08
What everyone seems to miss is the fact that...  MikeBlane | 11/21/08
There were once legitimate clones  jbroche18 | 11/22/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  Chiatzu | 11/21/08
Apple has been gaining share and will continue to  mitch@... | 11/22/08
It's the user experience ... Period!!!  mystic100 | 11/23/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  jfreedle2@... | 12/04/08
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  patbot | 02/05/09
RE: How Apple gained the upper hand on Microsoft  patbot | 02/05/09
Adrian is right, to a point.  gene_fitz@... | 02/05/09
Right....  rmlounsbury@... | 02/07/09
Disagree  johnfenjackson@... | 02/07/09
How PCs gained the upper hand over humans...  KingsCrown | 02/07/09

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