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December 16th, 2008

Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:14 am

Categories: Apple, In the news, Industry

Tags: NPD Group Inc., Apple Macintosh, Apple Inc., Computer, Sales Strategy, Desktops, Sales Force Management, Sales, Hardware, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

If the data released by the NPD Group is correct, Apple isn’t as recession-proof as was once thought. As the recession bites should Apple start making more affordable systems?

The bottom line of the NPD data is that Apple sales have declined compared to a year ago:

Sales of Macs in U.S. stores last month declined 1% from a year ago, while industry-wide PC sales rose 2%, according to research firm NPD Group Inc., which tracks retail sales.

NPD analyst Steve Baker blamed a 35% drop in sales of desktop Macs, noting growth in Apple’s laptops still outpaced rivals.

Apple’s doing the right thing in not being panicked into bringing out cheap systems. Why? Because price cuts are a one-way street.Anyone want to offer a guess as to the reason for this decline? I’m guessing that a tanking economy has something to do with it. On top of this is the fact that you can pick up some very cheap PC deals from the likes of Dell and HP. Discounts in the region of 35% to 45% are quite easy to find, while savvy shoppers might be able to lay hands on discounts as deep as 50%. Apple’s holiday season discounts were more in the region of 5%.

Price is important after all.

Back during October’s earnings conference call Steve Jobs had the following to say:

“We don’t know how to make a $500 computer that’s not a piece of junk.”

If you’re shopping for a PC at the Apple Store with $500 burning a hole in your back pocket then you’re outta luck. The cheapest system on offer by Apple is the Mac mini, which is priced at $599. Problem with the Mac mini is that this system is long overdue for a revamp. If you don’t want to have to supply your own keyboard, mouse and display and would rather have a MacBook then you’d better have at least $999 ready to spend. If you’re in the market for an iMac then you need a minimum of $1,200.

I’m not going to get into the argument of whether Macs are overpriced compared to PCs (because I don’t think that they are and there’s nothing wrong with catering to the higher-end of the market), but given the current economic climate Apple is almost inevitably going to see sales slide, and a decline in sales over the holiday season is going to spook investors come the new year. A year ago AAPL stock was a whisker below the $200 mark, today the same stock is at $94 (for those keeping track of the numbers you’ll know that AAPL got as low as $80 a share in November).

Personally, I believe that Apple’s doing the right thing in not being panicked into bringing out cheap systems (and I say that as someone who doesn’t by Mac hardware). Why? Because price cuts are a one-way street. In order to realistically compete with the likes of Dell and HP on price Apple would drastically alter the way it does business, and once it introduced price as a competition point, the company would be locked into that model pretty much forever.

I know that there are a lot of people out there reading this who’d love to get their hands on a cheap Mac system. But the problem is most of these people would like a cheap Mac because they are disillusioned with their cheap PCs. I don’t think that cheap Macs are the answer.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Look at where Apple is today
They are profitable and they have
a LOT of cash in the bank. They
are in a better position to get
through this "economic downturn"
than any other company I know of.

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Posted by: Ken_z Posted on: 12/20/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Question is Moot  medezark@... | 12/16/08
Apple is in excess of 25 years old......  James Quinn | 12/16/08
Recessions weathered  laura.b | 12/16/08
OK going that route then it is fair  James Quinn | 12/16/08
Comparing then to now...  ShadowGIATL | 12/16/08
Apple a US fad  jscott418 | 12/17/08
Mac Market Share  edgwize@... | 12/17/08
I would trust an independent assessment over MacWorld any day  tikigawd | 12/17/08
Update on Gartner  edgwize@... | 12/17/08
Unless they intend to be just a niche market player  no_zd_user_name | 12/16/08
Sigh... where have I read similar opinions?  James Quinn | 12/16/08
My Dear James, You are a happy loyal Mac User  no_zd_user_name | 12/16/08
The biggest threat to Apple is not MS but Linux  NonZealot | 12/16/08
The biggest threat to Apple is.. Apple  V@... | 12/16/08
I am loyal because I am happy.  James Quinn | 12/16/08
Are you implying...  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
I have many years in the desktop support/repair end  James Quinn | 12/17/08
"And so you claim".... "Well, where is the proof"  Badgered | 12/17/08
Re: Asus vs. Apple  Joe_Raby | 12/16/08
That assumes that they build to their own specs  James Quinn | 12/16/08
Then you don't know much about supply chains  Joe_Raby | 12/16/08
And so you claim......  James Quinn | 12/16/08
Nice comeback.....  Joe_Raby | 12/16/08
Well were is the proof?  James Quinn | 12/17/08
They use whoever meets their demands.  ShadowGIATL | 12/16/08
Actually  ShadowGIATL | 12/16/08
It appears that BMW and Mercedes...  arminw | 12/17/08
Apples and Oranges, er Macs....  EasyDuzit | 12/17/08
I suppose it depends how you define "niche"  mdsock@... | 12/17/08
Why does a $500 machine have to be over-designed?  V@... | 12/16/08
it doesn't  coffeeshark | 12/16/08
Re: it doesn't  V@... | 12/16/08
Mac vs PC is like.. humans  kriskl | 12/16/08
Vista Price is in your PC hardware Cost  Mectron | 12/16/08
I'm not an idiot  snberk341 | 12/16/08
It is his right.  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
Absolutely. And it is my right to think he's ...  snberk341 | 12/16/08
Why bring up 'Rights?'  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
Interesting choice of a word...  snberk341 | 12/16/08
Walmart Wins  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
The problem with selling for less..  snberk341 | 12/16/08
It is all about filling a need.  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
Different people, different needs...  snberk341 | 12/16/08
Another thought...  snberk341 | 12/16/08
I wonder why..  arminw | 12/17/08
My guess would be  rtk | 12/17/08
Its not just the parts...  snberk341 | 12/17/08
But, if I build myown...  dimmy05 | 12/17/08
What is your point?  snberk341 | 12/17/08
Apple makes its money selling ...  mwagner@... | 12/17/08
I agree...  ShadowGIATL | 12/17/08
Drop in desktop sales  j.m.galvin | 12/16/08
Imacs are All-In-Ones, right?  Arm A. Geddon | 12/16/08
Apples and Oranges (No pun intended)  justanitguy | 12/16/08
Re: touchscreen?  Arm A. Geddon | 12/16/08
re: Overpriced  Badgered | 12/16/08
I agree they are all overpriced but...  Arm A. Geddon | 12/16/08
A BMW is overpriced if...  arminw | 12/17/08
Apple Has To Make a Choice  mikefarinha | 12/16/08
There is no difference between a...  arminw | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  Badgered | 12/16/08
Except that the Mac mini (at $599) ...  mwagner@... | 12/17/08
So then buy a Dell...  arminw | 12/17/08
I believe  ShadowGIATL | 12/17/08
It's all really about the level of profit-taking...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 12/16/08
You are using a wrong definition  snberk341 | 12/16/08
Are their transistors exploding?  BALTHOR | 12/16/08
"I say that as someone who doesn't by (sic) Mac hardware"  markbn | 12/16/08
The Answer.  teddybairs1 | 12/17/08
Except ...  mwagner@... | 12/17/08
Not to mention...  ShadowGIATL | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  wargammer2005 | 12/17/08
Give the man a cigar...  snberk341 | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  mwagner@... | 12/17/08
Well Said! (NT)  snberk341 | 12/17/08
Mac's overpriced for quality  jscott418 | 12/17/08
Hope you took it back...  snberk341 | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  EasyDuzit | 12/17/08
Are BMWs superior...  arminw | 12/17/08
I don't say...  snberk341 | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece  trm1945 | 12/17/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  ajbird@... | 12/18/08
Apple sucks!  Gradius2 | 12/18/08
I think they should, especially a laptop  Hobyx | 12/19/08
RE: Does Apple need to learn how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk?  splunge@... | 12/19/08
Look at where Apple is today  Ken_z | 12/20/08

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