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February 19th, 2009

Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 2:37 pm

Categories: Windows 7

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Operating System, Feedback, Microsoft Corp., Beta, Beta Tester, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

An Open Letter to Microsoft

I’ve been running Windows 7 beta 1 for now eight weeks and I’ve put this beta thorough a serious workout. I’ve done my bit testing the OS (even loading it onto my new Dell Studio XPS 13) and submitted feedback, like I’m supposed to. I’ve also had, through unofficial channels, builds that have come after the official beta 1 build 7000 code, and I’ve tested those too. Things look like they are coming quite well. But before we jump to a Release Candidate and start getting caught up in “RTM fever” I’d like to see a beta 2 of Windows 7 please.

So far we’ve had one official beta and when it comes to something as big and as important as an OS, I really don’t think that one beta is enough. Not only am I curious to see what progress has been made and would like a chance to offer feedback on the changes that have been made as a result of user feedback on beta 1, I want reassurances that the current issues have been solved, and that no more bugs have popped up in the meantime. After all, the beta 1 of Windows 7 shook out a lot of bugs (an awful lot of which still seem to be listed as active …), and while most of these issues were minor, some turned out to be very serious. I don’t want to get to RTM and find similar issues cropping up. I definitely don’t want a repeat of the Vista debacle where I had to wait until SP1 before getting a solid, reliable and stable OS that outperformed the previous version of Windows.

I think that it’s also only fair to point out that there’s a growing level of dissatisfaction among beta testers on many blogs, forums and websites. Some feel that only having one beta limits the amount of feedback they can give on the OS, while others feel that bug reports are falling on deaf ears and being marked as “by design” or “won’t fix” rather than being dealt with. Given how difficult it was (and how much fuss had to be kicked up) to get the serious UAC flaw that Long Zheng uncovered fixed, I have to say I find any sort of hint that feedback isn’t being acted on worrying. There was far too much confusion over what was really a simple issue and I’m almost certain that if there hadn’t been extensive coverage of this issue by the tech media that this flaw would have been marked as “by design” and ignored.

I also feel that the spirit of beta testing has been eroded with Windows 7. Both beta testers on Connect and the public got their hands on the beta 1 bits at pretty much the same time. Experienced beta testers aren’t getting access to any new builds to be able to see progress. The Windows 7 beta test has felt more like a technology preview rather than a proper beta test cycle. Sure, with Windows 7 we got the e7 blog which gave us all a behind the scenes peek at the development process, but at the end of the day it’s the code that matters. I’m worried that beta testers haven’t seen enough official beta code yet to fully test the OS (and the fixes being carried out) under the broadest possible hardware and software configurations.

Getting to see a beta 2 and having the chance to see that our feedback is being acted on (as well as being able to submit more feedback) makes a lot of sense to me. If nothing else, it would be reassuring to Sure, it might push back the release data a bit, but since officially the date has always been a vague 2010, it doesn’t matter.

So, how about a beta 2? It would certainly make me feel reassured that things are truly on track for a great release.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?
Devoid posted that NT was brilliant but that Unix failed.
I was present (on the sidelines) at the discussion between Microsoft and the Regents of Berkly when the Regents wanted recognition in the N... (Read the rest)
Posted by: tomkoltai Posted on: 02/25/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Just curious...  MGP2 | 02/19/09
I don't need to ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 02/19/09
That's too bad, because the general look  chrome_slinky@... | 02/20/09
I'm curious.  ShadeTree | 02/20/09
You have a point, but......  linux for me | 02/20/09
Let them spread the propaganda, it will only accelerate m$'s demise  InAction Man | 02/20/09
I think Adrian's point is that ...  mwagner@... | 02/20/09
Agree 100%  InAction Man | 02/20/09
OK, then here's a question for you?  MGP2 | 02/20/09
So many words to say nothing  InAction Man | 02/20/09
I know I should heed my momma's sage advice from years ago...  MGP2 | 02/20/09
To chrome slinky  stevehabs | 02/21/09
That's too bad, because the general look  GAXXIS | 02/24/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  r0n1n812 | 02/19/09
Windows 7 Ultimate -- Pay more Get MORE  shellcodes_coder | 02/19/09
Money-hungry?  Barc777 | 02/20/09
Greed...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/20/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  TigerhawkVok | 02/19/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  nelson.robert@... | 02/19/09
Oh No!!!!  Nsaf | 02/19/09
Thats easy!  InAction Man | 02/20/09
You need  NStalnecker | 02/19/09
Yeah, right, and then recompile the kernel, configure...  InAction Man | 02/20/09
I don't know much...  Yeartenn | 02/20/09
Amazing how fast things change  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Going, going, gone  Barc777 | 02/20/09
An excellent illustration...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/20/09
You must have an old system  JT82 | 02/20/09
Yes, blame the hardware  InAction Man | 02/20/09
speaking of intelligent debate  rtk | 02/20/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  Eapache | 02/19/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  mkathiravone | 02/19/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  hannac | 02/19/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  Open_Sauce | 02/19/09
More of the same......  Open_Sauce | 02/22/09
Release schedule  johnfenjackson@... | 02/20/09
Neither clever or funny.  ShadeTree | 02/20/09
YAMS trash talk  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Wasn't trying to be funny or clever.  ShadeTree | 02/20/09
Why must he be labeled an ABM'er  storm14k | 02/20/09
probably because  rtk | 02/20/09
YAMS  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Nope  rtk | 02/20/09
Correction: Your busting with FUD  InAction Man | 02/20/09
I got a theory on that...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/20/09
Can you read? Then read post 10.1, it will give you a clue  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Duuude, chill....  MGP2 | 02/20/09
@mgp: You are the m$ schill and you are not being creative not even trying!  InAction Man | 02/20/09
@Man - How about this sort?  MGP2 | 02/20/09
Another beta, maybe but MS listen to users, doubtful.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/20/09
I disagree...  ShadeTree | 02/20/09
An answering machine can give you an answer too.  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Oh RLY?  Wolfie2K3 | 02/20/09
It's (allegedly) getting fixed because the media exposed it  InAction Man | 02/20/09
FAIL!  de-void | 02/24/09
Agree .. Some bugs need to be seen dead before RTM  croberts | 02/20/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  Z1000 | 02/20/09
Could you try that one again?  MGP2 | 02/20/09
What, one time was not enough for you?  InAction Man | 02/20/09
Looking for a new song?  MGP2 | 02/20/09
complain, complain, complain  Randalllind | 02/20/09
Um. You DO realize...  Wolfie2K3 | 02/20/09
I respectfully disagree  Yensi717 | 02/20/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  SSloan | 02/20/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  wguimb | 02/20/09
After 3.0, 95, 98, NT, ME, 2000, XP and Vista  mlindl | 02/20/09
I see your confusion...  MGP2 | 02/20/09
You are **absolutely right** windows is a 20 year old **very bad idea**  InAction Man | 02/20/09
predicting windows failure  rtk | 02/20/09
Is Windows' 20 year old success story any worse than UNIX's 45 year failure  de-void | 02/24/09
Before the next beta it would  ramewe7337 | 02/20/09
TechNet / MSDN users - Get newer builds  jpr75_z | 02/20/09
nah  stevehabs | 02/21/09
RE: TechNet / MSDN users - Get newer builds  dsljay | 02/21/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  bklooste | 02/21/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  bklooste | 02/21/09
I'm an unabashed Microsoft Critic......  cpt_slog@... | 02/21/09
Beta 2? If you want.  zclayton2 | 02/25/09
RE: Open letter to Microsoft - Can we have a Windows 7 beta 2 please?  tomkoltai | 02/25/09

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