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April 26th, 2007

Windows Vista = Windows Me II?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 10:05 am

Categories: Industry, Marketing, Microsoft, Software, Thoughts, Trends, Vista

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Is Windows Vista going to be a repeat of the Windows Me marketing and sales disaster that Microsoft experienced back in 2000?

Over the past few weeks I've come across a number of articles on tech sites that are putting Windows Vista and Windows Me in the same sentence.  Not good.  Others are more blatant and are directly comparing Vista to Me.  That's really bad and not the kind of comparison that is going to fuel sales.

Pointing out that you've fixed the flaws of the previous version hardly inspires people to part with money a second time around.  When Windows Me was released by Microsoft back in 2000 it was a total debacle. The operating system offered the consumer very little in the way of new technology (a new interface that looked like Windows 2000 and features such as System Restore, UPnP and automatic Windows Updates).  It was tricky to install, trickier still to get running, buggy, tough to get hardware working, even tougher to get legacy hardware running because Microsoft decided to remove non-PnP drivers from the installation CD, had compatibility issues with software, and quite often it just didn’t want to shut down properly. It truly deserved its #4 spot in “The 25 Worst Tech Products of All Time” list. On the plus side … it didn’t have any form of Product Activation.

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I was lucky and I managed to avoid spending too much time with Windows Me (I went from Windows NT 4 to Windows 2000 – both solid operating systems, although NT 4 was limited by hardware and software support) but I know people whose lives were plagued by Windows Me problems.  It was ugly.

Is Vista another Me? I have to say that I think it's a case of yes and no. True, Vista is nowhere near as buggy as Windows Me was and it does offer broad support for hardware. It’s also fast, very reliable (certainly in my experience) and actually quite nice to use (we'll come to whether it's worth the money in a minute). However, Vista does have trouble with quite a lot of legacy hardware and software, something which is quite rightly making people nervous of making the leap. But the area where Windows Vista and Windows Me are too similar is in what they offer in terms of benefits to the end user. If I think back to the marketing material for Windows Me and I remember being told about the new TCP/IP stack, UPnP, System Restore, Image Preview, a whole lot of new games and so on. Now we have Windows Vista and this OS has Aero, Windows Sidebar, Instant Search, improved security, Windows Mail, Media Center support, shadow copy, parental controls and so on. What was the new killer Me feature? I couldn’t see one at the time and if there was one, it still eludes me. Where’s the new killer Vista feature? Hmmm. Again, one just doesn’t stand out.

Microsoft makes a big deal of the new security features present in Vista, but let’s face it, while security is an important aspect of an OS, it’s not very compelling. Security is hardly a “Wow” feature, instead it's just something we expect from our software nowadays.  Pointing out that you've fixed the flaws in the previous version does nothing to inspire customers to hand over their money a second time around.

To be fair, Windows Vista does contain improvements that are geared towards the volume and type of files that users have nowadays. Back when Windows XP was being developed digital cameras and portable media players weren’t as widespread as they are now and as such the average PC user today has far more digital photos, music and videos than they did back in 2000. Windows Vista does make it much easier to navigate through large media collections, but again, this isn’t very “Wow!” is it?

I think there are three issues that are negatively affecting the reception that Vista is getting.

  • First, it’s been 7 years in the making. After that amount of work people expect something special and no matter how pleased you are with Vista (and, overall, I’m pretty pleased with it), it just doesn’t blow you away (the problem here is that Microsoft spent a lot of time working on security, and while this is a good thing in the long run, it just doesn’t blow your hair back).
  • Secondly, Vista has an identity crisis. There are too many versions and too many choices - Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate, with Aero, without Aero… I think that consumers would have been happier if Home Basic had been binned and there were only two choices (but then again, OEMs wanted a way to sell low-spec Vista PCs).
  • Finally, price. I just can’t shake the feeling that Vista is too expensive, especially when it comes to Vista Ultimate.

If Vista is perceived by consumers as “Me II” or just another upgrade that they can pass up on, then this will certainly have an adverse effect on PC sales over the next couple of years. If this happens, the upside will be that we’re going to see the PC market become even more cut-throat and competitive. The downsides will be that there could be OEM casualties.

Thoughts?

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I actually had very little trouble with ME  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
OEM slowdown  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
I don't think they need a new OS as much  Michael Kelly | 04/26/07
Sounds like bloatware to me  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
My experience says something different.  pmshah@... | 04/30/07
Anecdotally, most people didn't.  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
I heard different anecdotes  chemist109 | 04/26/07
I wonder...  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
A Possibility  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Bugs were minor compared to other complaints  voska | 04/26/07
I will stand to say that 98SE was better for me than ME  DannyO_0x98 | 04/26/07
Okay.  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
Re: Wind98se is better than ME/Vista  tenchidbz | 05/01/07
The two bugs that I saw in the most in ME were  zmud | 04/26/07
I have no problem with windows me  e.fiesel@... | 04/27/07
ME didn't have system restore  rock06r | 04/30/07
ME did have system restore  laman | 04/30/07
I remember going through just about all...  rock06r | 04/30/07
Worst thing??  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Ditto  notsofast | 05/02/07
Win ME  grumpyjm@... | 04/26/07
Me too  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 04/30/07
I Agree  Ashby | 04/27/07
I ran ME for a long time, few problems  daddykevin13 | 04/27/07
Stripped down 2k3  pmshah@... | 04/30/07
Me Too John  jwhinckson@... | 05/07/07
Microsoft admits Vista failure  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
Wishful thinking based on errors.  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
As always...  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
If you didn't like that article...  bportlock | 04/26/07
Sutures!  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
No, it is unprecedented  TripleII | 04/26/07
I wouldn't  Badgered | 04/26/07
It's the hardware manufacturers' fault!  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
I didn't realize you know Mike Cox!  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
I don't (nt)  John L. Ries | 04/27/07
Never happened before?  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
Kind of like...  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
After today's Microsoft financial results...  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
MS revenue was not in jeopardy  TripleII | 04/26/07
Yes, Dell, Hahahahaha  odubtaig | 04/26/07
Its different now  pmshah@... | 04/30/07
It has never happened before  TripleII | 04/26/07
Failure is relative  voska | 04/26/07
Failure is relative only to loss of MS sales  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
More like realization  Ole Man | 04/27/07
The Inquirer? most ridiculous indeed  GuidingLight | 04/26/07
No Facts Allowed!!!  bka1959 | 04/26/07
Tell me about it!!  NonZealot | 04/26/07
Fools and their money are easy parted  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
I can't believe you would...  rock06r | 04/30/07
I very much  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Holy **** , Microsoft drops the ball again !  Intellihence | 04/26/07
Sweet troll!!!  James T. Kirk | 04/26/07
Go ahead, shot the messenger - that will fix the problem! - NT  raycote | 04/26/07
I will say this  Badgered | 04/26/07
Looking at Mac, or Record profits  GuidingLight | 04/26/07
People could be buying other things  ITGuy04 | 04/27/07
Stop lying!  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Misinformation  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
"MSFT today announced "  Ole Man | 04/27/07
"Ole Man today announced"  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
And Brother Mike said  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Still 4%  justanitguy | 04/26/07
MSFT Earns More from Vista than Apple Does in 2 Years  marksashton | 04/26/07
Aren't monopolies and "lock-in"  MacCanuck | 04/26/07
Yes, Apple did it too but didn't profit as much  NonZealot | 04/26/07
You saying it over and over doesn't make it true  TripleII | 04/26/07
Buy a clue  ITGuy04 | 04/27/07
Yeah, so does Wal-Mart...  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/26/07
They made more with ME too  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
WOW, what a fantasy life you live in  jedi105@... | 04/27/07
"never be a threat to MS"  Ole Man | 04/27/07
Almost agree  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Good grief when you're right you are so right  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
Try Debian  Ole Man | 04/30/07
"but at least they have the resources to fix it when they find them"  KWierso | 04/27/07
My two cents' worth  M.R. Kennedy | 04/26/07
Worth?  lantzn | 04/26/07
Thanks!  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Your two cents  Ole Man | 04/27/07
Two cents  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Thanks!  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Can't believe this was published...  Mike Cox | 04/26/07
WOW , how now brown cow ?  Intellihence | 04/26/07
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ROFL  Badgered | 04/26/07
RE: ROFL  musikgoat | 05/02/07
Microsoft posts record prfofits  GuidingLight | 04/26/07
Microsoft profit tops Wall St view on Vista sales  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
A leopard...  justanitguy | 04/26/07
Tell me, Mike  frgough | 04/26/07
Drum Roll...  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
9.5  BanjoPaterson | 04/26/07
I am waiting for his review of  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
10.0  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
For Once, You Made Me Laugh  itanalyst | 04/26/07
C&C  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/26/07
STOP, YOU'RE KILLIN' ME!!!!  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/26/07
Perfect score: 10.0  boubacar1 | 04/27/07
Holy Wow!  Ole Man | 04/27/07
I had to respond  pmshah@... | 04/30/07
Golf clap  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 04/30/07
What does any of that mean??  phlogiston2312@... | 06/12/07
Yup. Vista = POS  ITGuy04 | 04/26/07
All of us...  justanitguy | 04/26/07
People LOOKING at OS X and Linux  jedi105@... | 04/27/07
What's really sad  frgough | 04/26/07
Good OS, yes. Worth the bucks....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/26/07
Wait...  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
Oops, you are right...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 04/26/07
Make it two  rapson | 04/26/07
I agree  dragosani | 04/26/07
I'd never pay for it  voska | 04/26/07
Vista parent control is nice to have.  rick@... | 04/26/07
I bet your kids are smart enough to bypass it...  jinko | 04/26/07
You can do that with a router too  Linux User 147560 | 04/26/07
I don't pay attention to rumors like this. Give me a break.  Grayson Peddie | 04/26/07
Rumors?  Bucky24 | 04/27/07
Put him on Ubuntu in the meantime!  KWierso | 04/27/07
Bad Comparison  bobiroc | 04/26/07
Vista was developed in the two years after XP SP 2.  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
Adrian, You ROCK!!!!  itanalyst | 04/26/07
Adrian is just too frickin' cool...  D. T. Schmitz | 04/26/07
It's worse than ME  vince@... | 04/26/07
You're overlooking something....  James T. Kirk | 04/26/07
Yep, And What's Even Sadder  itanalyst | 04/26/07
OMG  denweb | 04/27/07
If it's any consolation, Vista sales are doing well.  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
However  zkiwi | 04/26/07
One minor flaw in your logic...  jinko | 04/26/07
Why Don't They Break Down The Numbers?  itanalyst | 04/26/07
The funny thing is  mdemuth | 04/26/07
Failure indeed.  devlin_X | 04/28/07
The thing with ME  voska | 04/26/07
One big difference...  jinko | 04/26/07
Windows ME Flash Drive Support  racingmustang | 04/26/07
What can MS do?  TripleII | 04/26/07
Agreed in full  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
What? Me, worry?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 04/26/07
Expectactions  John L. Ries | 04/26/07
Will be a successful failure  TripleII | 04/26/07
Smartest Thing Microsoft Should Have Done  itanalyst | 04/26/07
re "smartest thing microsoft should have done"  hansonjb | 04/30/07
Vista should be cheaper than XP...  Big Scoddie | 04/26/07
Great point.  fizzmaster | 04/26/07
$3 OS!!  jimrinflorida@... | 04/27/07
re: $3 OS!!  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Lord, give me strength...  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Just because you put money into  devlin_X | 04/28/07
Exactly...  Big Scoddie | 04/29/07
My point is that it should be cheaper, not "identical"...  Big Scoddie | 04/29/07
Give ME strength too  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Guess Again - Check out MSFT Earnings Today  marksashton | 04/26/07
Let's take a look, shall we?  MisterMiester | 04/26/07
Slight error ...  MisterMiester | 04/26/07
You misunderstand  marksashton | 04/26/07
Microsoft did have to settle a complaint...  Anton Philidor | 04/26/07
Vista=6 Years, $6 BILLION Dollars?  jbelkin | 04/26/07
Vista = excuse to sell more hardware.  kraterz | 04/26/07
Yes, and Vista has sold VERY strong for the OEMs  georgeou | 04/26/07
2GB of Ram?  bmore_bro69@... | 04/30/07
Anyone actually read the figures?  TonyMcS | 04/26/07
Let's see if it remains true next quarter  TripleII | 04/26/07
Vista Sales  pfries@... | 04/27/07
Nothing in this about Vista sales or Office  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
Meaningless  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Not what the market is reporting  georgeou | 04/26/07
The 'frothing mouth' masses need a break every now and then  Scrat | 04/27/07
Only "TIME" will tell this tale.  Laff | 04/27/07
Funny thing about XP demand...  NonZealot | 04/27/07
Um what about my original post was ABM like?  Laff | 04/27/07
OS X on a PC  devlin_X | 04/28/07
TardBlog  LinuxHippie | 04/27/07
Don't think it's meant as a technical comparision  Laff | 04/27/07
Only with a technical  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Oh, please...  BitTwiddler | 04/26/07
Drivers Only?  pfries@... | 04/27/07
New Hardware?  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Security?..you mean like this?  BobF_z | 04/27/07
My Gawd...I fell for this...  GuyAlanDye | 04/27/07
Come one  Windozer | 04/27/07
Adrian makes a good case  zaine_ridling | 04/27/07
I never had ANY problems with Windows ME  wallywalters | 04/27/07
A new OS should never go backwards  professorcad@... | 04/27/07
You posted a very good question  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
You posted a very ridiculous comment  Fil0403 | 04/29/07
If Vista is such a hot OS then why...  croeiii | 04/27/07
Dell offering XP on some machines  M.R. Kennedy | 04/27/07
Are you sure about that?  devlin_X | 04/28/07
Good article. I agree ...  mwagner@... | 04/27/07
Vista is a good step forward......  jedi105@... | 04/27/07
Where?s the new killer Vista feature?  Biggles209 | 04/27/07
No Problem when I had ME  rupaa62 | 04/27/07
Too little for too much  Apache19 | 04/27/07
Pity the pitiful  Ole Man | 04/27/07
Totally agree  bruce@... | 04/27/07
XP MCE to Vista Ultimate  achilleos@... | 04/27/07
There are legal used copies for less  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
Microsoft is great  vinothbabu@... | 04/28/07
You are an 8 year old?  Reverend MacFellow | 04/28/07
Why bother to post ?  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
If it were so great why won't US govt buy it ?  intrepi@... | 04/28/07
It's called "planning"  Fil0403 | 04/29/07
Vista = Vista  Fil0403 | 04/29/07
But the smart ones  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Open minded  Freebird54 | 05/01/07
Windows ME  Keywalker4God | 04/29/07
ME, et al, have evolved?  Big Scoddie | 04/29/07
The only Wow about Vista is the Price.  ben.rattigan | 04/30/07
More like "OW!" than "WOW!"  Big Scoddie | 04/30/07
Hope it tanks  cyngaines | 04/30/07
Keep Hope Alive Slick  bmore_bro69@... | 04/30/07
That aint what one Microsoftie said  Ole Man | 04/30/07
VISTA - not for me Yet !  ramnet@... | 04/30/07
Alternatives  CodeCurmudgeon | 04/30/07
ME versus Vista  lvincent45 | 04/30/07
Vista Runs Fine on My PC, ....  escapepod | 04/30/07
Don't you mean "MB"?  KWierso | 04/30/07
Yes....  escapepod | 05/02/07
"64-bit mode. Gee... no wonder none of their old software worked!!!"  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Everything ????  escapepod | 05/02/07
Vista Vs ME  benf_z | 04/30/07
"embarrasing"  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Vista Is Fine !!!!  danceblade@... | 04/30/07
Why so impatient? Give Vista time  donnie126_2002@... | 04/30/07
Gosh, I'm missing all the fun  Ole Man | 04/30/07
vista just makes my hardware obsolete  coveman | 04/30/07
Vista = Windows ME + Bob  mcwagoner_1999 | 04/30/07
If WIndows ME had REALLY been a viable OS  johnandcindy987 | 05/01/07
Me & Vista vs. others  bgilboa@... | 05/01/07
Understanding ME (and Vista)  marlinj@... | 05/01/07
Virtualisation solves all problems  drjt87 | 05/01/07
Vista = windows B.O.B. too...  magusat999@... | 05/05/07
Vista vs ME  Willis@... | 05/22/07
Vista convinced me to make the switch to Ubun2  junquemail | 05/22/07
Security enhancements?  erikwilson@... | 05/25/07

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