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June 25th, 2009

Are Windows stealth updates back again?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 5:00 am

Categories: Stealth Update

Tags: Microsoft Windows Update, Update, Microsoft Windows, Patches, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

According to Windows Secrets, Microsoft could be back to its old tricks of stealthily installing Windows Updates on systems where users have specifically specified that they want to verify each update installed.

The forced-install behavior has been witnessed at least three times by Windows Secrets editors, but Microsoft says its procedure for Automatic Updates hasn’t changed in the last 10 months.

The behavior seems to occur only if a Windows user has Automatic Updates configured to “download updates but don’t install them” or “notify me but don’t install them.” If updates are scheduled to occur automatically, with no notice to users, the silent installation of updates would be expected.

There are four options within Windows Update that users can choose, and the wording is different for XP and Vista,

Vista:

  • Install updates automatically.
  • Download updates but let me choose whether to install them.
  • Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them.
  • Never check for updates.

XP:

  • Automatic - automatically download recommended updates for my computer and install them.
  • Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them.
  • Notify me but don’t automatically download or install them.
  • Turn off Automatic Updates.

Most people out there have their systems set to install updates automatically. The paranoid folksout there block all updates. However, there are careful people out there who like to have a think about each and every update installed. There have been examples where an errant Windows Update patch has caused people lots of problems. The folks who demand high levels of uptime from their systems tend to be cautious and keep an ear to the ground for any problems related to patches before installing them. Ironically, it is these careful people who choose to manually verify patches that have these updates forced onto their systems.

What’s the reason for these forced updates? This is the current theory:

One theory to explain the forced installs is that the large number of patches Microsoft released on June 9 overwhelmed the Redmond company’s download servers.

The extra demand may have caused some downloads to be incomplete. Incomplete downloads are known to disable the notification icon and possibly the approval dialog that’s supposed to appear during shutdown.

It seems that this is a known bug. Seems it needs fixing if Microsoft is to carry on pushing enormous downloads down the Windows Update pipes.

If these updates are stealth, how can people spot them? Simple, they show up when you shut down the system because this is when the update is applied.

So far I’ve not been able to replicate this issue. However, I have been receiving reports of these stealth updates for a while now.

If you’ve been hiit by stealth updates, let me know.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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RE: Are Windows stealth updates back again?
wth you talking about!? dos and win 9x safe???? Lmao what world are you living in. I remember I had to install updates to win 98 after a reinstall before connecting to the net.

This was becaus... (Read the rest)
Posted by: outpostprime Posted on: 07/07/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Personally  medezark@... | 06/25/09
Rationally  jacarter3 | 06/25/09
Counter-perspective  gnesterenko | 06/25/09
After over 20 years  jacarter3 | 06/25/09
so then  gnesterenko | 06/25/09
Heh?  ShadowGIATL | 06/25/09
Damned if you do..  GuidingLight | 06/25/09
Or.....  jacarter3 | 06/25/09
Judging by this rhetoric you are spouting...  JT82 | 06/25/09
If its problem free then...  T1Oracle | 06/25/09
Whos forcing what on the user? Wait never mind..  JT82 | 06/25/09
You are using a weird Linux then  rhomp2002@... | 06/25/09
Beyond Automatic Updating  JT82 | 06/25/09
You can choose the updates you want, you know...  widdybear | 06/29/09
Nor has he used Linux or OS X  GuidingLight | 06/25/09
Yeah right...  zkiwi | 06/25/09
You can stop the bleating by checking the....  widdybear | 06/29/09
Name an OS....  Erroneous | 06/25/09
No ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/25/09
Agreed.  T1Oracle | 06/25/09
You are right, it shouldnt.  JT82 | 06/25/09
True ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/25/09
I remember a while back when they forced an update...  olePigeon | 06/25/09
how timely....  ridingthewind | 06/25/09
Microsoft tunnels everything over http  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 06/25/09
Another reason to choose yourself and to unplug....  widdybear | 06/29/09
MS has a decades old record or breaking things!  kd5auq | 06/25/09
Microsoft doesn't break jack  Lerianis2 | 06/25/09
Amen to that! Case in point, flagship WIN95s 'blue screen of...  widdybear | 06/29/09
Harbinger of the future of digital media  donniebnyc@... | 06/25/09
Yeah thats right! Whats up with that...having to get the software via...  widdybear | 06/29/09
RE: Are Windows stealth updates back again?  Loverock Davidson | 06/25/09
Seriously?  crazydanr@... | 06/25/09
Got to agree  Lerianis2 | 06/25/09
Well...  ShadowGIATL | 06/25/09
Re: Well... [Thank you.]  widdybear | 06/29/09
Never WU On Auto!  preachjohn | 06/25/09
Funny, I use Windows Update on auto  Lerianis2 | 06/25/09
Could you format that better please?  ShadowGIATL | 06/25/09
Too true. The very reason I do not set to auto nor express...  widdybear | 06/29/09
RE: Are Windows stealth updates back again?  Yes_indeed | 06/26/09
Misinformed article  microsoftguru | 07/01/09
RE: Are Windows stealth updates back again?  outpostprime | 07/07/09

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