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July 16th, 2009

Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 11:11 am

Categories: Ad industry, Apple, Industry, Microsoft

Tags: Advertisement, Apple Inc., Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

According to Microsoft COO Kevin Turner, Apple lawyers tried to get Microsoft to pull one of the Laptop Hunter ads:

And so we’ve been running these PC value ads. Just giving people saying, hey, what are you looking to spend? “Oh, I’m looking to spend less than $1,000.” Well we’ll give you $1,000. Go in and look and see what you can buy. And they come out and they just show them. Those are completely unscripted commercials.

And you know why I know they’re working? Because two weeks ago we got a call from the Apple legal department saying, hey — this is a true story — saying, “Hey, you need to stop running those ads, we lowered our prices.” They took like $100 off or something. It was the greatest single phone call in the history that I’ve ever taken in business. (Applause.)

I did cartwheels down the hallway. At first I said, “Is this a joke? Who are you?” Not understanding what an opportunity. And so we’re just going to keep running them and running them and running them.

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Did it happen exactly like that? I doubt it, but even if there’s a grain of truth to this story, Apple is feeling pretty threatened by these ads.

It also seems that Microsoft will be taking the fight to Apple’s doorstep:

And we’re going to showcase this opportunity of Windows simplicity, choice, value, and partners. And stay tuned, because we’re going to have some retail stores opened up that are opened up right next door to Apple stores this fall. Stay tuned, just stay tuned.

This could be a very interesting move for Microsoft. Strategically placed retail stores could give Windows 7 a lot of effective exposure, which combined with tactical pricing, could give the Redmond giant a chance to claw back market share.

What’s interesting is that Microsoft waited until Windows 7 was on the horizon before mounting an effective ad campaign against Apple. Apple ads had made a laughing stock of Vista and Microsoft knew it couldn’t counter it, but Windows 7 is a different product and it seems that Microsoft has the confidence to really market this product and go against Apple and the Mac.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Microsoft backs down
Adrian,

Your story looks a bit like MS PR. MS has now backed down and changed the add accepting that Apple's comments were correct.

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13" MacBpok Pro, 15" price shown?  Ken_z | 07/16/09
Quite a bit of stuff actually  ebs5049 | 07/16/09
It's obvious  LiquidLearner | 07/16/09
They better do more than their last attempt.  Mac Hosehead | 07/16/09
X-Box 360?  nucrash | 07/17/09
If he's bought one with a Jasper motherboard...  Sleeper Service | 07/17/09
Here, here  ShinyDarkStone | 07/17/09
RE: ring of death  JakAttak | 07/17/09
my xbox has been reliable  mcalmond@... | 07/18/09
I wasn't aware that  goff256 | 07/18/09
Nope  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
And I'd be willing to wager...  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
What was the original topic?  Timpraetor | 07/20/09
How are they missleading  rparker009 | 07/22/09
One Thing Microsoft Stores Won't Have  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
Um, hmm.  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Just the facts, M'am  frabjous | 07/20/09
it did?  dchase@... | 07/21/09
It's not MSFT driving it down, tho  LBiege | 07/16/09
Don't be so quick to write off the price on the economy  balsover | 07/16/09
Apple Still More User Friendly  robertmro | 07/17/09
I don't know about more user friendly?  hmanzo2k@... | 07/17/09
For Children & Geniuses, little in between  Carrie Johnson | 07/17/09
show me a game  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
More user friendly  compudog | 07/20/09
well  cwhistler | 07/21/09
I like Win 7 and I like OSX  mtgarden | 07/16/09
I agree but....  sammymason | 07/16/09
Huh?  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
They'll do like the recording cartels  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  Loverock Davidson | 07/16/09
It only proves one thing  rob@... | 07/17/09
Proves nothing  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Proves something  compudog | 07/20/09
All this proves  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
as if the mac ads are true  max_wedge | 07/17/09
IF MS feels the ads are false  DeusExMachina | 07/18/09
what a crock  cwhistler | 07/21/09
Reading comprehension  DeusExMachina | 07/21/09
Did MS ever lose it's marketshare?  T1Oracle | 07/16/09
Exactly!  ericesque | 07/17/09
Yeah great ads, we'll pay you to buy a PC  GoPower | 07/16/09
Good point  Crimcheck | 07/17/09
On a budget  User07734 | 07/20/09
GOOD POINT?  compudog | 07/20/09
They didn't get enough $$$  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
17" Laptop  chromeronin | 07/19/09
17"!?  compudog | 07/20/09
Mac deserves every bit of this  timlara | 07/16/09
Did you really trust MS?  Ken_z | 07/16/09
Mac Apologists  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
Ah yes, value is the word  Carrie Johnson | 07/17/09
Blah blah blah  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
and yet  max_wedge | 07/17/09
and yet -  Timpraetor | 07/20/09
Mac Apologists  compudog | 07/20/09
Do you really trust Apple?  compudog | 07/20/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  mybunkaccount@... | 07/16/09
I am sure if MS really wanted to, they can make many calls to Apple...  Qbt | 07/16/09
That's just it...they can't.  CowLauncher | 07/16/09
they could  max_wedge | 07/17/09
That's just.................  Disgruntled M$ User | 07/21/09
RE: Calls  JakAttak | 07/17/09
Calls...  jason.weiand@... | 07/17/09
The Ad Overpriced the Mac by more like $300  CowLauncher | 07/16/09
ad overpriced..  jason.weiand@... | 07/17/09
Can't you bother to research  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Cheap Windows PCs at Best Buy  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
PCs at Best Buy  compudog | 07/20/09
Re: Cheap Windows PC's.............  Disgruntled M$ User | 07/21/09
Hmmmm....  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
Apple Specials  chromeronin | 07/19/09
Macs ARE Overpriced.  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
"I don thing that word means wha you thing it means"  jgpeters | 07/17/09
Bravo!!  unclefixer@... | 07/17/09
Hear, Hear  Timpraetor | 07/20/09
Who you wha you doin' here?  compudog | 07/20/09
Ad Overpriced.......?  Disgruntled M$ User | 07/21/09
It's simply the economy.  TripleII | 07/16/09
Sorry  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
I hate to say it  kcredden2 | 07/16/09
Apparently  arminw | 07/17/09
Interesting that MS is using new tactics - FUD  Rude Union | 07/16/09
"bring em on"?  onepersonsopinion@... | 07/16/09
What kind of debate arguments are these?  Rude Union | 07/17/09
What kind of debate  compudog | 07/20/09
Wrong, opinion or not  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Not exactly right  olditman | 07/22/09
That is not the issue  DeusExMachina | 07/22/09
Yes, but, it could be true...  adornoe@... | 07/17/09
Deleted  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Being that Apple would be in the right  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
You make no sense at all...  adornoe@... | 07/17/09
Well...  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
Are you really that obtuse?  DeusExMachina | 07/18/09
Instead of insults, why not try to examine the facts...  adornoe@... | 07/20/09
Examine the facts yourself.  DeusExMachina | 07/22/09
New tactics  compudog | 07/20/09
Wouldn't want the truth to get in the way of a story  Richard Flude | 07/16/09
And you blindly trust everything MS say?  Mikael_z | 07/17/09
Marketeering  dave@... | 07/17/09
Marketeering  brvanisi@... | 07/17/09
M$ isn't as quick to admit as you say...  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
Netbooks == new market share  nucrash | 07/17/09
Apple to sell crappy netbooks with razor-thin margins for profit?  Mikael_z | 07/17/09
Crappy netbooks  compudog | 07/20/09
*virii (or: please god make it stop!!!) REPRISE  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Thank youse  Carrie Johnson | 07/17/09
Grammar post  compudog | 07/22/09
Illiteracy and innumeracy  DeusExMachina | 07/22/09
And Then There's Chrome  robertmro | 07/17/09
I will use it  Crimcheck | 07/17/09
Macs and Harleys  Jim Finn | 07/17/09
Macs and Harleys  cmoorenow@... | 07/17/09
If we're bringing Harleys into the discussion  unclefixer@... | 07/17/09
Yes, But .........  robertmro | 07/20/09
Really?  de-void | 07/17/09
Chrome  Tom6 | 07/17/09
Microsoft shows indecent behaviour  rhon@... | 07/17/09
Market share ...  ron.connal@... | 07/17/09
The Windows Store  jeremy.brown@... | 07/17/09
It's all a matter of bullying.  iMarc | 07/17/09
Bullying or Bull****ting?  Woned B. Fooldagan | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  jeremy.brown@... | 07/17/09
How much do Macs actually hurt MS  jgpeters | 07/17/09
Win = stack'em high, sell'em cheap  Tom6 | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  ceknight | 07/17/09
That's ridiculous...  fortierj | 07/17/09
Um, no you couldn't  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
You don't ....  Woned B. Fooldagan | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  Gis Bun | 07/17/09
If you don't know what you are talking about  DeusExMachina | 07/17/09
Competing on price  Tom6 | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  fsclcnsrvtv | 07/17/09
Chicken & egg  Tom6 | 07/17/09
Hold it right there...  NameRedacted | 07/17/09
Surface Tech  Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 07/17/09
good point  max_wedge | 07/17/09
Why Bother? M$FT's Products and Support Are Ass Anyway  drprod@... | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  unclefixer@... | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  kevsan | 07/17/09
And in some cases...  DaemonSlayer | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  croconn | 07/17/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  3JG Productions Network | 07/18/09
Gymnastics  DeusExMachina | 07/19/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  chromeronin | 07/19/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  chromeronin | 07/19/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  chromeronin | 07/19/09
Original XBOX is great but the 360  gohmc | 07/20/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  dheady@... | 07/20/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  compudog | 07/20/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  compudog | 07/20/09
RE: Microsoft: Apple lawyers tried to stop ads  pgstocker | 07/20/09
@bloggers  DeusExMachina | 07/22/09
Microsoft backs down  martin23 | 07/24/09

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