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June 12th, 2007

Safari for Windows - Do we really need another browser?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 7:00 am

Categories: Apple, Software, Thoughts

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Apple Inc., Microsoft Windows, Web Browser, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

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Yesterday Apple unveiled a public beta of the Safari web browser aimed at Windows XP and Windows Vista users (oh, and Mac OS X 10.4.9 and later).  Earlier this year when Apple had sent me a loaner MacBook Pro I’d had the opportunity to use Safari and quite honestly I wasn’t all that impressed with it and quickly installed (and used) Firefox instead.  Safari 3 beta for WindowsThe crashes, combined with the speed with which a exploit was uncovered make me wonder whether Apple can write code for WindowsDo Windows users really need yet another browser for the Windows platform?

To be honest, my first response when I heard that Apple had made a beta of Safari for Windows available for download was … a disappointing yawn.  A web browser is just a tool and I find it hard to drum up much enthusiasm for new browsers any more.  If you look at the top four browsers out now (Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 2.0, Opera 9 and Safari 2/3), there’s really not much to distinguish between them.  They all do pretty much the same thing in pretty much the same way, they all have their quirks, and they all seem prone to the “leaky bucket” syndrome when it comes to security.  The idea of having “yet another browser” installed, with all the associated care and feeding that goes with the deal (especially making sure that you’re using the latest patched version) just didn’t seem worth the hassle to me.  Nevertheless, I downloaded a copy, installed it onto a Vista installation and took it for a spin.

OK, so the Safari download is nice and small (under 8MB) and the installation is fast (mine was done in about a minute).  Apple claim that it’ll run on both XP and Vista and that you’ll need a system with at least 256MB of RAM and a 500MHz Pentium CPU or better.  This might be the case, but once I got Safari 3 beta installed, I remembered one of the reasons why I disliked Safari on the Mac and why I’ll still dislike it on Windows - that butt-ugly silver-grey interface.  It looks especially rough on Windows Vista where I’m used to the nice Aero glass look.

Looking beyond the interface, Apple has posted twelve reasons they think why we’ll love Safari.  Let’s examine each one here one by one.

Blazing Performance

Apple claims that Safari is fast - twice as fast as Internet Explorer and 1.6 times as fast as Firefox 2.0.  Looking at Apple’s website the claim is that Safari is faster than IE7, Firefox 2.0 and Opera 9 when it comes to rendering HTML, executing JavaScript and at launching the browser.

Personally, I think that it takes about the same time to launch all four browsers on my Vista box (under 1 second) and while I can say that web pages feel like they load up faster, I think that this is due to the fact that the page seems to be composed off-screen.  This results in a lag between clicking on a link and seeing the page.  Page loading feels faster and certainly looks smoother, but my inkling is that this is nothing more than an illusion.  I’m taking Apple’s performance claims with a big pinch of salt.

Elegant User Interface

OK, it’s a minimalist look, but I still think it looks awful.  Why hide useful features like the status bar and yet show that Bookmarks Bar?  Safari 3 betaAlso why when the top three browsers all offer tooltips to help explain the user interface does Apple not follow this convention?  Likewise, it’s annoying that you can only resize windows using the handle at the bottom-right of the window.

The black text on a grey background motif reminds me of a tombstone on one of those old Hammer House of Horror movies.  I was pretty sure that there would be a way to ditch the existing skin, but if there is, I can’t find it.  I guess I can understand a look where the interface is subdued because then you can use color to selectively draw the eye to important things, but I don’t see that trick being used in Safari.

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Bear in mind that Safari & Vista are still in beta
The more the better, less monopoly offer more choices and better quality in the long run for consumers.

People who complain about bugs in Safari for Windows need to know the definition of Beta ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: rigo12 Posted on: 06/21/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
2 words "Web Development"  dragosani | 06/12/07
so true...  jakex3@... | 06/12/07
market is too small to worry about it  balsover | 06/13/07
Just freakin great  Duke E. Love | 06/13/07
choice is always nice  dyl8n | 06/12/07
How does the firewall help?  voska | 06/12/07
whatever...  dyl8n | 06/12/07
Hi dyl8n - I have an answer to your tripple click question  richard.gray@... | 06/17/07
As was said before  frgough | 06/12/07
A tool for developers  Mikael_z | 06/12/07
Get off your high horse  TechnoCritter | 06/12/07
And then ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/12/07
Because you have NO experience in the first place  j.m.galvin | 06/12/07
Funny  panic man | 06/12/07
Mac users are of a different mindset.  Mikael_z | 06/14/07
So Mac users who don't use Safari are...  NonZealot | 06/14/07
Nope, I just like it...  Mikael_z | 06/14/07
Safari too is EXTREMLY bloated  NonZealot | 06/14/07
Rebuttal  TrackStar1682 | 06/12/07
Oh brother  Duke E. Love | 06/13/07
Safari is TERRIBLE  NonZealot | 06/12/07
Keep in mind it's still beta  TripleII | 06/12/07
I used Mozilla 0.7 (an early beta release)  glassangel | 06/12/07
I don't see the Ugliness  nucrash | 06/12/07
I'm sure the Apple fans say the same about Firefox lol (eom)  BillyG_n_SC | 06/12/07
No way  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Firefox flaw  frgough | 06/12/07
Hmm, works fine on Windows  NonZealot | 06/12/07
Not really  frgough | 06/12/07
That's why Camino rules  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Not my experience  frgough | 06/12/07
I don't see that  j.m.galvin | 06/12/07
Customizability  frgough | 06/12/07
Yes, the leading browsers are so similar...  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
Fortunately  Michael Kelly | 06/12/07
Unfortunately...  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
True  Michael Kelly | 06/12/07
Actually - you're 100% wrong  j.m.galvin | 06/12/07
Different situation  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
how to avoid a reboot and kill the process:  kaye@... | 06/12/07
Do we need:  Michael Kelly | 06/12/07
No.  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
Stagnation is good  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Is it such a horrible thing  Michael Kelly | 06/12/07
Groundless self-doubt is damaging.  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
Think that's pretty much over  j.m.galvin | 06/12/07
Agreed, mostly.  Anton Philidor | 06/12/07
A little more to it  j.m.galvin | 06/12/07
Hehe, the Mac zealots don't get it  NonZealot | 06/12/07
America = choice (freedom)  Hameiri | 06/12/07
News update: Blogger Misses the Point Once Again  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Huh?  BFD | 06/12/07
Safari  frgough | 06/12/07
Pay more attention  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Eh?  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/12/07
Contradicting yourself  tic swayback | 06/12/07
Standards  Harry Bardal | 06/12/07
Being missed everywhere  ebernet | 06/12/07
No, it won't ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/12/07
Weeeeee!!!!! Look at the Mac zealots FREAK out!!  NonZealot | 06/12/07
It's Not Mac Users Who are Freaking Out...  Harry Bardal | 06/12/07
It's Not Mac Users Who are Freaking Out...  Stan57 | 06/15/07
Don't care about de jure standards?  Mikael_z | 06/17/07
Normal Users  Stan57 | 06/18/07
Where compliancy matters...  D-T-Schmitz | 06/12/07
A tool, not much else.  snaconst | 06/12/07
If MS cannot code for it's OWN platform  MacCanuck | 06/12/07
exactly so. All this crowing over exploits in a beta, IE7.0 has exploits  stevey_d | 06/12/07
So ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 06/12/07
He dd not claim that the final release version was  Laff | 06/12/07
In line find is nice but . . .  kaye@... | 06/12/07
Safari working fine on XP  horvatic | 06/12/07
Safari is good on Mac, because Firefox sucks big on that particular  xinqiwang | 06/12/07
doesn't even come close to working on XP SP2  glassangel | 06/12/07
Works just fine on WinXP SP2  Misha35 | 06/12/07
works fine to me  sfazly | 06/13/07
Same here - uninstalling  henrystahle@... | 06/13/07
International support?  bgk | 06/12/07
I note it was Adrian Birthday Yesterday, did he have a bad one  Thexyone | 06/12/07
Connect the Dots  73man | 06/12/07
Nitpicks  narsos | 06/12/07
Didn't take windersbox user long to complain about...  systemx | 06/12/07
Glitches after Safari Install  jbass@... | 06/12/07
Choice is good  nucrash | 06/12/07
Strange looks  cmjrees | 06/12/07
At least your interface renders!  bhartman33@... | 06/12/07
This is much needed.  Resuna | 06/12/07
I.E 6 Embeded in eMac OS X  pobstar1@... | 06/12/07
All this fuss over a picture frame  TonyMcS | 06/12/07
Anything looks ugly on Windows  labarker | 06/12/07
MAC poor support on unicode  hassan_3 | 06/12/07
You CAN have the status bar @ the bottom. See View Menu (NT)  GSavage777 | 06/12/07
Safari for Windows Beta  ZebedeeBoss | 06/12/07
Only IE is necessary or good!  ballmerrules@... | 06/12/07
Try getting your facts straight Adrian...  Scrat | 06/13/07
It's only a beta...  Thralni | 06/13/07
Safari crashes. Try Maxthon  gandreotti@... | 06/13/07
Not the thing to do  sysop-dr | 06/13/07
A good sign really  CowLauncher | 06/13/07
When Safari Works, Let Me Know  NameRedacted | 06/13/07
It's interesting to use  007baf | 06/13/07
I'll stick with Firefox because...  paul613 | 06/13/07
Wow. All the "Nay Sayers" forgot one thing.  mkleinpaste@... | 06/13/07
What?  NonZealot | 06/13/07
Safari is...underwhelming.  DeepFreeze3 | 06/13/07
Safari is a blank  vomax12 | 06/13/07
Apple should buy PALM on the cheap  JCPayne1 | 06/14/07
But what about the actual functionality  richard.gray@... | 06/17/07
Bear in mind that Safari & Vista are still in beta  rigo12 | 06/21/07

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