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June 20th, 2007

Media support in Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 8:58 am

Categories: Linux, My Linux Experience

Tags: Ubuntu, Media, Codec, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

In Focus » See more posts on: Windows to Linux Chronicles

Today I continue my “Windows to Linux Chronicles” by looking at what media support is like under Ubuntu 7.04.

The test is simple. Take a few test files and see if they’ll play. For the test I chose the following files:

  • An MP3 test file
  • A WMA test file (a DRM-free file of course)
  • A QuickTime 7 movie

Note: Full image gallery available here.

The test is simple. Save these files onto the Ubuntu desktop, double-click and see what Ubuntu does. I already know that Linux will try its best to find a way to run the files so it’ll be interesting to see how easy this process is and how well it works.

MP3

When I clicked on the MP3 file a program called Totem Movie Player fired up. This seemed odd to me, I was expecting an audio player, or a generic player, not one that specifically referred to movies. Anyway, a few seconds after it fired up I got a message saying that a codec was needed.

OK, under Windows this kind of message can be pretty hit-n-miss so I wasn’t sure what to expect. However, within seconds it has found some codecs for me and I chose one (GStreamer extra plugin) and installed it. What happened next bugged me a little and it would continue to bug me each time I came across it during the test. I kept being presented with dialog boxes telling me that the codec was “restricted software” and that I had to verify that I was allowed to use the software:

Media support in Ubuntu - Call a lawyer!

Hmmm. Now, I’m not a lawyer but at this point I sure felt like I needed one. If this kind of thing makes me feel nervous then I’m not sure how it’s going to make less confident users feel. The bottom line (I think) is that liability for use of the codecs (or certain codecs anyway) is passed onto the user. Is this legal? Is this ethical? No idea (maybe someone else can clarify this). One thing’s for sure, it feels dodgy. This kind of grey area is yet another example of why Linux is far from ready for prime time.

Putting aside the feeling that I was agreeing to something that felt ambiguous (although I think I can safely say I fall into the “research purposes” category) the remainder of the installation process was fast and within a few seconds the MP3 file was playing in Totem Movie Player.

Success!

WMA

For the next test I tried playing a WMA file under Ubuntu.

The results were pretty much identical to playing an MP3 file. I double-clicked the file, Totem Movie Player fired up, and after thinking about the situation for a few seconds decided it needed to look for a codec. I agreed to the search and soon a suitable codec was found and downloaded. I then had to swear that I was entitled to use the codec before it installed. After all this was completed (a process that took a couple of minutes) the file played perfectly.

Another success.

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OGG on Windows
I did just that. Shared a file I encoded on MythBuntu in OGG and opened it up in MS Media Player on another machine. Got the message I needed the OGG codec, found one, installed and voila - music.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: pbk@... Posted on: 04/21/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Good luck (you're gonna need it).  odubtaig | 06/20/07
No good luck. You need other laws (or codecs),  Jxn | 07/10/07
Install Mplayer or VLC instead ...  MisterMiester | 06/20/07
As far as DVDs go  Michael Kelly | 06/20/07
Xine for DVDs, Mplayer for media ...  MisterMiester | 06/20/07
Agreed (nt)  Michael Kelly | 06/20/07
Doesn't xine have a plugin to use mplayer for music?  KWierso | 06/21/07
VLC for Quicktime; avoid Automatix  pjotr123 | 06/20/07
Seems like issues like this need to be thought about by the distributors  lwvirden | 06/22/07
You installed illegal and hacked codecs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Another funny thing  pjotr123 | 06/20/07
Wrong  People | 06/20/07
If so...  Jxn | 07/10/07
Wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
What are you gibbering about?  odubtaig | 06/20/07
RE: What are you gibbering about?  gdstark13 | 06/21/07
Uh, Axey . . . .?  JLHenry | 06/21/07
People with no morals?  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/07
Wrong...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
I'll let you know when that happens shall I? NT  odubtaig | 06/20/07
If you install these codecs, you already have.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Actually open sores  Linux User 147560 | 06/20/07
Crunch time: PROVE IT or SHUT UP  Old Timer 8080 | 06/21/07
Not necessarily  Edward Meyers | 06/21/07
I  Jxn | 07/10/07
EULA  Endoscopy | 06/21/07
People who install grey-codecs have plenty of morality  Leria | 06/21/07
Economics  frgough | 06/21/07
No_Ax and YBK both message deleted  ihatelinux | 06/27/07
Which is why I don't install them  Michael Kelly | 06/20/07
Its more a case of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
However  Michael Kelly | 06/20/07
so that means  balaknair | 06/21/07
Not realy...  Jxn | 07/10/07
None of what you wrote makes sense, please revise  Rokstar83 | 06/20/07
I see your mistake  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Just the usual.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  Linux User 147560 | 06/20/07
thats because no_ax  SO.CAL Guy | 06/21/07
Violating everyone else's IP...  RealAusTech | 06/25/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Huh?  Rokstar83 | 06/20/07
Why don't we make a bet?  DonRupertBitByte | 06/20/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
That's funny.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
I FULLY understand the GPL, it still sux.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Yes.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
REEEEEAAAALLLLLLYYYYYY????????  Dr_Zinj | 06/21/07
No morals?  Update victim | 06/21/07
Sounds like unconstitutionality  bbbaldie_z | 06/21/07
Isn't support for some codecs illegal in Linux??  laxmanb | 06/20/07
Wrong, wrong and wrong.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Questions for item 1.  People | 06/20/07
Gee, let me think...  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Gee  People | 06/20/07
Like a whatnow?  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Here you go.  People | 06/20/07
algorithms can be patented.  mombo | 06/21/07
Which is funn  Jxn | 07/10/07
You are indeed wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Yes, clearly I've lost to someone whose understanding of European law is  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Does not compute.  People | 06/20/07
Fine.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
agreed  balaknair | 06/21/07
No_Ax_to_Grind, Two faults don't make right. You are also wrong.  Jxn | 07/10/07
A clue, just for you...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
That was a change to a proposal for a law that never passed.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
But there are software patents in Europe...  rob.radina@... | 06/21/07
And the courts will continue to overturn them  Edward Meyers | 06/21/07
Yes, they are illegal hack jobs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
You're lying again.  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Please...  Jxn | 07/10/07
Actually . . .  JLHenry | 06/21/07
Depends  Necrolin | 06/21/07
Automatix, for sure  Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/20/07
You seem to enforce the point  People | 06/20/07
Obviously you've never downloaded anything from download.com with Linux  Michael Kelly | 06/20/07
Correct you are  People | 06/20/07
And you not...  Jxn | 07/10/07
Linux for Noobies  pj_mouse | 06/22/07
I don't know that seems pretty hard to me  Edward Meyers | 06/22/07
On the spot! Great post!  Jxn | 07/10/07
One word: "Kaffien" ...it plays everything. n/t  btljooz | 06/20/07
Sorry for the typo. That's two words: TRY "Kaffeine"...  btljooz | 06/20/07
Adrian, a new test for you. Do this legally.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/20/07
Do this legally  fredrwright@... | 06/20/07
Nice rant, now take the challenge  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/21/07
NoAxe - tss tss  nizuse | 06/21/07
Funny how . . .  JLHenry | 06/21/07
1 search  tombalablomba | 06/21/07
Did you read the TERMS OF USE?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/21/07
Again, a typical NoAxe response  nizuse | 06/21/07
You mean he actually HAD credibility . . .  JLHenry | 06/21/07
Anything...  handydan918 | 06/21/07
He did...  Jxn | 07/10/07
Yes,  tombalablomba | 06/21/07
thanks to No_Ax  balaknair | 06/21/07
grin grin grin  Jxn | 07/10/07
Are you really that dense??  Edward Meyers | 06/21/07
WMA on Linux is sickening...  Mike Cox | 06/20/07
Mike Cox u r nothing but a troll & everyone knows it! n/t  btljooz | 06/20/07
Yeah, but he does such a good job... n/t  Big Scoddie | 06/20/07
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/satire  odubtaig | 06/20/07
Another 10, Mike! Here, Fishy, fishy, fishy . . . happy [nt]  JLHenry | 06/21/07
I give that a 9.8  balaknair | 06/21/07
9.0  ihatelinux | 06/27/07
3GP???  rwnz | 06/20/07
If you're using ubuntu, kubuntu, xbuntu ...  MisterMiester | 06/20/07
Realplayer  tombalablomba | 06/21/07
Serious question  30otsix | 06/21/07
I think that is correct.  handydan918 | 06/21/07
My small test @Adrian  tombalablomba | 06/21/07
OGG on Windows  pbk@... | 04/21/08
mplayer/vlc  turgenev | 06/21/07
Restricted Software  boygeorgew | 06/21/07
Have to agree....  handydan918 | 06/21/07
Ubuntu  jtsylvanis@... | 06/21/07
Why the desktop? Why double-click?  TunerGeek | 06/21/07
Freedoms denied - hidden on Windows  scott1329 | 06/21/07
Your right...  79spitfire | 06/21/07
Just so.  handydan918 | 06/22/07
The test is biased.  thetargos | 06/21/07
Welcome to the New OLD world without Microsoft.  walter@... | 06/21/07
I've been here that long, but I remember it differently  Update victim | 06/21/07
how aboout tv capture/viewing in 64 bit linux? my bt878-based capture card  wessonjoe | 06/21/07
TV Tuner Support  freethinkerinfl | 06/21/07
Capture Card  pj_mouse | 06/21/07
My camcorder isn't recognized, either  Sodbuster41 | 06/22/07
I guess this would be dodgy. . .and this is for XP  mjpollard | 06/21/07
LET'S GET TOGETHER AND MAKE LINUX WORK?  BALTHOR | 06/21/07
Linuux & DVDs  Nobu_z | 06/21/07
Silly keyboard  Nobu_z | 06/21/07
Your analysis is acurate... My experience  D-cat | 06/24/07
Linux has support for proprietary codecs  kev000 | 06/21/07
Linux=Behind the times  3dtodd | 06/21/07
re: Linux=behind the times  kev000 | 06/21/07
It's not the developers  Edward Meyers | 06/22/07
Microsoft...  handydan918 | 06/22/07
quicktime is a container, not a format.  carbonred | 06/21/07
Quicktime sucks in WinXx, too  pklammer | 06/21/07
Use VLC MediaPlayer  freethinkerinfl | 06/21/07
Your opinion  jtsylvanis@... | 06/21/07
Bye Newer Windows, Hello Kubuntu  oddlore@... | 06/22/07
failing to perform due diligence?  Sodbuster41 | 06/22/07
codecs ... bah  lwvirden | 06/22/07
OSs  jtsylvanis@... | 06/22/07
"All-knowing" is a dangerous game...  Bob.Kerns | 06/24/07
Good luck playing DVDs  KeithLaBumbard | 06/24/07
This might help  Anthony M | 06/25/07

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