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September 25th, 2009

When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:41 am

Categories: Security, Software

Tags: Google Inc., Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Corp., Google Chrome, Plug-in, Web Browsers, Security, Internet, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Chrome Frame browser plug-in for Internet Explorer seems to have kicked off a war of words between Google and Microsoft. When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?

In case you haven’t been keeping up with developments, Chrome Frame is a plug-in developed by Google for IE that brings the performance and standards compatibility of the Chrome browser to IE users. To put it another way, Google came out with a plug-in that dramatically improves IE.

When it comes to security, who do you trust more?

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But Microsoft isn’t taking this lying down. Yesterday the Redmond software giant claimed that Chrome Frame put IE users at risk by expanding the attack surface available to hackers:

“With Internet Explorer 8, we made significant advancements and updates to make the browser safer for our customers. Given the security issues with plug-ins in general and Google Chrome in particular, Google Chrome Frame running as a plug-in has doubled the attack area for malware and malicious scripts. This is not a risk we would recommend our friends and families take.”

Later Google hit back:

“While we encourage users to use a more modern and standards-compliant browser such as Firefox, Safari, Opera or Google Chrome rather than a plug-in, for those who don’t, Google Chrome Frame is designed to provide better performance, strong security features and more choice to both developers and users, across all versions of Internet Explorer.”

Google is even going as far as to suggest that if you don’t trust the code, check it out for yourself:

“We invite all parties with thoughts about Google Chrome Frame to explore our code and provide feedback about this technology [to] the open-source community.”

So, who do you trust with your security?

The way I look the Chrome Frame situation right now, I think that it’s an interesting idea. Sure, there will be security concerns, but since we’re talking about IE here anyway, I’m not sure that I’m falling for the whole ”won’t someone please think of the children” thing. Other than by installing Flash Player onto a system, it’s hard to see a way to make IE any less secure to be honest. And if we’re going to go down that whole “friends don’t let friends do insecure stuff” then I’m pretty sure that friends don’t encourage friends to use IE at all …

My guess is that Chrome Frame might be just the encouragement that Microsoft needs to make IE better (much better) than it is at present. Given how it fares when it comes to performance, compatibility and security, that shouldn’t be too hard.

Adrian Kingsley-HughesAdrian is a technology journalist and author who has devoted over a decade to helping users get the most from technology. He also runs a popular blog called The PC Doctor. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations

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Given their experience it has to be Microsoft.  Sleeper Service | 09/25/09
Have to agree  kaninelupus | 09/25/09
Well said, kaninelupus...  Gatlinburger | 09/26/09
Re: Well said  bb_apptix | 09/29/09
Microsoft naivete  wanderson | 09/28/09
Oh! I suppose you trust...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
Right  AzuMao | 10/01/09
Good points, and at least Google, helped...  JCitizen | 10/03/09
Yes, there's definitely nothing fuzzy about it.  AzuMao | 10/03/09
You're Way Too Funny for Your Own Good! haha... grin  i2fun@... | 09/29/09
Given the users' experience it can abolutely never ever be Microsoft!  Mikael_z | 09/27/09
Well, SS IS One of Micro$haft's Biggest Fanbois  drprod@... | 09/28/09
Ah yes...  zkiwi | 09/27/09
At the risk of appearing like a nut...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
You kidding right?  shadowfyr55@... | 09/28/09
Well, if you think  sackbut | 09/28/09
Well you came from...  horus9339@... | 09/29/09
Pardon???  robert@... | 09/29/09
Sorry Robert  horus9339@... | 09/29/09
Message has been deleted.  drprod@... | 09/28/09
Message has been deleted.  rgoeken1@... | 09/29/09
What Experience? At creating and maintaining a Monopoly?  usr001 | 09/28/09
Me neither...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
Wow, JCitizen!  Isocrates | 09/30/09
Very true...  JCitizen | 09/30/09
Hey  AzuMao | 09/30/09
Okay, Az..I give...  JCitizen | 10/03/09
I think that's a good service except..  AzuMao | 10/03/09
I am not sure what you read.  Isocrates | 10/05/09
Re: Isocrates  AzuMao | 10/05/09
I think it was in the Washington Post...  JCitizen | 10/05/09
@AzuMao  Isocrates | 10/06/09
This one  AzuMao | 10/06/09
Ya that makes so much sense.. not.  AzuMao | 09/28/09
Makes perfect sense if you are a political..  JCitizen | 09/28/09
What do politics have to do with this?  AzuMao | 09/29/09
The one person in the world who...  JCitizen | 09/30/09
Right. So you're saying Microsoft is more likely to stand up for  AzuMao | 09/30/09
I can be a pretty poor communicator...  JCitizen | 10/03/09
That's not really necessary though; Freenet works without pwning anything.  AzuMao | 10/03/09
Are you suggesting...  JCitizen | 10/05/09
lol!  914four | 09/29/09
Given that they design and make the OS its MS (nt)  custserv@... | 09/25/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  chris@... | 09/25/09
Like that eight year old vulnerability that was recently fixed?  ye | 09/25/09
Well..  chris@... | 09/25/09
I'm not certain.  CobraA1 | 09/25/09
History revisionism or turning the blind eye  Mikael_z | 09/27/09
Open Source Security tested?  monei011 | 09/28/09
The internet  tracy anne | 09/29/09
The Problem is Microsoft Itself  usr001 | 09/28/09
Yeah! If you got a tin foil hat...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
Who assumed it meant total security?  ye | 09/25/09
Sorry  chris@... | 09/25/09
True, but encryption is open...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
When losing...  Isocrates | 09/28/09
No he didn't.  AzuMao | 10/02/09
One such vulnerability for Linux, and how many for Windows since?  Zogg | 09/25/09
But we know about those five...right?  ye | 09/25/09
Linux patches what it finds; I'm assuming MS does the same  Zogg | 09/25/09
It's really, really, really simple:  ye | 09/25/09
Dohh..  chris@... | 09/25/09
trolling again????  deaf_e_kate | 09/25/09
@chris: I knew you guys liked to bury your head in the sand...  ye | 09/25/09
@deaf_e_kate: If true then...  ye | 09/25/09
How effective are you suggesting "many eyes" has claimed to be?  Zogg | 09/25/09
@deaf_e_kate  kaninelupus | 09/25/09
Ovwelooked or neverseen  gaelicfog@... | 09/28/09
Bugs, bugs, who knows about the bugs?  Mihi Nomen Est | 09/28/09
Sad reality  kaninelupus | 09/25/09
True..  JCitizen | 09/29/09
Not relevant  rgor@... | 09/25/09
That's "armchair wisdom"  Zogg | 09/25/09
I love that comment..  JCitizen | 09/29/09
At least they don't take years to fix a KNOWN vulnerability like MS do.  AzuMao | 09/28/09
Years?...  JCitizen | 09/29/09
Windows sure isn't slim, if that's what you mean.  AzuMao | 09/29/09
Never mind...  JCitizen | 09/30/09
Yes..  AzuMao | 09/30/09
True...thanks!!..(nt)  JCitizen | 10/03/09
Theoretically, maybe. But not necessarily.  CobraA1 | 09/25/09
More Eyes More Bugs  mathcreative | 09/25/09
Random eyes in random places are not good enough  Earthling2 | 09/25/09
I think there's a flaw in your thinking.  bhartman36 | 09/28/09
okay  CobraA1 | 09/26/09
But you are talking about IE/ Windows  ArnavM | 09/25/09
I would look at it the other way  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
Umm...  chris@... | 09/25/09
But people purchase it anyway - it's preinstalled on new PCs  Zogg | 09/25/09
But what happened when competitors arrived?  ye | 09/25/09
IE6 shows that MS will rest on its market share if it thinks that it can  Zogg | 09/25/09
Perhaps. But it shows that when they do people will choose alternatives.  ye | 09/25/09
MS has a stranglehold on PC sales; witness Best Buy's anti-Linux FUD  Zogg | 09/25/09
The monopoly issue only applies to the OS.  B.O.F.H. | 09/25/09
And?  ye | 09/25/09
I keep forgetting that reading comprehension is not your strong point...  B.O.F.H. | 09/25/09
@B.O.F.H: You failed to answer the question.  ye | 09/25/09
Do not sell everyone so short  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
References?  Zogg | 09/25/09
Well, since you're talking history...  mgp3 | 09/25/09
What's that have to do  John Zern | 09/25/09
Change of subject?  Zogg | 09/26/09
Dated arguments and false assumptions.  Lester Young | 09/27/09
You realise that the underlying context is "Google's IE6 plugin", right?  Zogg | 09/27/09
@Zogg, you made the generalization...  Lester Young | 09/27/09
You are arguing with History.  Zogg | 09/28/09
Exactly how I bought it...  JCitizen | 09/29/09
Open Source?  Mihi Nomen Est | 09/28/09
Microsoft's argument is valid. However until the Chrome...  ye | 09/25/09
Partially valid at most  cameigons | 09/25/09
It has plenty of basis in fact.  ye | 09/25/09
I agree with you and almost everybody...  JCitizen | 09/29/09
Actually...  GoodThings2Life | 09/25/09
Chrome is Open Soucre  mathcreative | 09/25/09
Both have isolation, Microsoft has experience, Google has open source.  CobraA1 | 09/25/09
The worlds botnets run on Windows  HollywoodDog | 09/25/09
And Linux.  CobraA1 | 09/25/09
Linux: The Botnet of choice  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
Good point, good article  The Star King | 09/25/09
And it is an older article  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
Agree with this part:  CobraA1 | 09/25/09
So why did you ignore...  storm14k | 09/25/09
Yes, many of the boxes  GuidingLight | 09/25/09
re: And it is an older article  none none | 09/26/09
Yeah, Linux might be controlling botnets  HollywoodDog | 09/25/09
On the contrary.  bjbrock | 09/25/09
Thanks for the link...  none none | 09/26/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  The Star King | 09/25/09
I don't "trust" either one.  bjbrock | 09/25/09
Google wins  Linux Geek | 09/25/09
NEITHER!  Capt_Sparky | 09/25/09
Security vs Privacy  chris@... | 09/25/09
Neither.  JM1981 | 09/25/09
Google's terms of use is so horribly bad  Joe_Raby | 09/25/09
Hard to believe, as I was sure it would  chrome_slinky@... | 09/25/09
Yup, because EVERYONE who disagrees with you...  kaninelupus | 09/25/09
Sorry to offend  chrome_slinky@... | 09/26/09
I agree with your main point, but...  bhartman36 | 09/27/09
Oh, how dull.  cornpie | 09/25/09
After pwn2own...  storm14k | 09/25/09
Better at what? Javascript benchmarks that don't simulate typical browsing?  connor33 | 09/25/09
Sort of  fritzendugan@... | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  rgor@... | 09/25/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  chuckleberry | 09/25/09
No worries, trust us, we're taking care of all your security  Earthling2 | 09/25/09
I trust ANYTHING more than Microshaft.  David Blomstrom | 09/25/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  Matt Gabriel | 09/26/09
More Microsoft bashing...Then stop using their software already, sheesh...  transposeIT | 09/26/09
Who do I trust more? Definitely not info coming from Zdnet blogs...  transposeIT | 09/26/09
More Google butt kissing...Another blogger on the Google payroll...  transposeIT | 09/26/09
Care to prove that?  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 09/26/09
Care to prove that ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/27/09
is this a joke?  fritzendugan@... | 09/28/09
RE:Given the users' experience it can abolutely never ever be Microsoft!  jetsethi | 09/27/09
I don't think it's a matter of "knowing".  bhartman36 | 09/27/09
I'm stunned...  bhartman36 | 09/27/09
I'm not at all...I think it's interesting and probably,  socialism=nowhere | 09/28/09
Sometimes I have to laugh....  Mihi Nomen Est | 09/28/09
It might be accurate of most users...  bhartman36 | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  aseries | 09/28/09
That was my first thought also  Mythos7 | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  egeiger@... | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  pritchet1 | 09/28/09
Can trust be measured in nanograms?  rt@... | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  Woodlands | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  chuck_gregory@... | 09/28/09
Who do I trust more?  mwagner@... | 09/28/09
The Google "The Beta Company" can always  socialism=nowhere | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  shadowfyr55@... | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  pjones | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  gaelicfog@... | 09/28/09
IE8 Didn't work for me  madrucke@... | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  dch48 | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  WiccaMagick | 09/28/09
Why The crash?  RDEngineer | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  Cyberjester | 09/28/09
Security  herblock | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  susanai | 09/28/09
The Problem is not Process, it's Policy  usr001 | 09/28/09
Likelihood and Consequence  monei011 | 09/28/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  deowll | 09/28/09
Not biased here, no sir!  mechBgon | 09/28/09
whole-heartedly agree  stewymelb | 09/29/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  conceptual | 09/28/09
Have had enough of IE already!  Mohammad Mubashar | 09/28/09
IE nearly always caused hiccups  geum | 09/30/09
Oh! I suppose you trust...  JCitizen | 09/28/09
Google  tracy anne | 09/28/09
On the whole it's more who do i dis-trust more?  Tom6 | 09/29/09
MS wants my money but Google wants my privacy  Baer | 09/29/09
Use IRON instead  Whpan | 09/30/09
My nuanced response.  D. W. Bierbaum | 09/29/09
Chrome or Mozilla all the way  gammaworld@... | 09/29/09
Google and China  gammaworld@... | 09/29/09
Distasteful background?  gammaworld@... | 09/29/09
OK OK, didnt get to read it all but  PC Medicalist | 09/30/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  Tynach | 09/30/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  jfreedle2@... | 10/04/09
RE: When it comes to security, who do you trust more - Microsoft or Google?  sreesiv@... | 10/22/09

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