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October 6th, 2009

Is NVIDIA dead? (UPDATED)

Posted by Adrian Kingsley-Hughes @ 4:39 pm

Categories: AMD/ATI, NVIDIA

Tags: NVidia Corp., Advanced Micro Devices Inc., GPU, Reports, SemiAccurate, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes

Reports are circulating that NVIDIA is to kill off the GTX 260, GTX 275, and GTX 285 and exit the high-end and mid-range graphics card market. Is this the end for NVIDIA?

SemiAccurate has the scoop:

Word from sources deep in the bowels of 2701 San Tomas Expressway tell us that the OEMs have been notified that the GTX285 is EOL’d, the GTX260 is EOL in November or December depending on a few extraneous issues, and the GTX275 will be EOL’d within 2 weeks. I would expect this to happen around the time ATI launches their Juniper based boards, so before October 22.

Which leaves the GTX 295, but given that AMD/ATI now has 5xxx series cards that annihilate it, its lifespan can’t be that long either (Demerjian has a good analysis on why vendors won’t take a chance of stocking NVIDIA cards). And what does NVIDIA have in the pipeline for the near future … hmmm, not much. A series of technical issues, combined with what appears from the sidelines as a high degree of mismanagement has steered the company into the tar pits.

So where does this leave the market? Well, it makes AMD’s investment in ATI now seem like a pretty good buy (especially given the dismal run that AMD has been having lately). If NVIDIA is exiting the high-end and mid-range graphics card market then this leaves a very lucrative field open to AMD.

So is this a good thing or a bad thing. Well, it’s good for AMD, and bad for NVIDIA, that’s pretty obvious. But what about consumers? Well, I’d hate to see a world without NVIDIA, because in a market with only one big player, things tend to stagnate, and prices tend to be higher than they could be. If you’re looking to buy a graphics cards (or buying a new PC) then NVIDIA exiting most of the GPU market is not a good thing at all.

But …

If you’ve been watching the GPU market closely over the past few years you must have noticed how games are no longer driving the GPU industry. Gone are the days of needing to spend hundreds of dollars on GPU hardware to run a game well. Nowadays you can pick up a sub-$100 GPU that will run games very well indeed. GPU vendors have been spinning their wheels truing to invent markets for high-end GPUs and multi-GPU rings. Truth is that the market for these sort of fringe applications is small. The importance of the GPU is dwindling, and this means that there might not be room for two big players any more.

Thoughts?

[UPDATED: This in from an NVIDIA spokesperson:

"We are not phasing out the products you list below [the GTX 260, GTX 275, and GTX 285] by the end of this year.  We are in the process of transitioning to Fermi-class GPUs and, in time, phasing out existing products.”

I’m getting conflicting reports from supply chain and hardware insiders. Stay tuned …]

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No problem for me
I've always used ATi graphics cards wherever I can. ATi for my own PCs, NVidia for my customers (cause it [was] the gaming standard), and Intel for the cheap crap (cause intel graphics sets usually suck pretty bad).

My big favorite is ATi.
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Don't forget Intel  itpro_z | 10/06/09
I don't think it's that.  CobraA1 | 10/06/09
Intel = teh suck  Olderdan | 10/07/09
Try it on a real OS  de-void | 10/07/09
Dude  Bozzer | 10/08/09
There's the problem  Hate Malware | 10/07/09
Doesn't look good at the moment  Hate Malware | 10/10/09
That will all change when Larrabee arrives  de-void | 10/07/09
Larabee...  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
What you fail to mention  Joe_Raby | 10/07/09
yes...  shadfurman | 10/07/09
"Advancements of polygonal rendering"  Joe_Raby | 10/08/09
raytracing - closer than you think  CobraA1 | 10/08/09
Lemme get this straight . . .  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
Actually  Joe_Raby | 10/08/09
re: actually  CobraA1 | 10/08/09
You are a PR drone, am I right?  Bozzer | 10/08/09
And it will like likely take...  kaninelupus | 10/08/09
Re: Larrabee FUD  chefp | 10/08/09
Rumors?  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Zathros | 10/06/09
Intel chips suck  Lerianis10 | 10/06/09
I agree re: their graphics chips,  HypnoToad72 | 10/07/09
Not so much lately  itpro_z | 10/07/09
well . . .  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  MobileAdmin | 10/06/09
No need for high end!  Mr MM | 10/06/09
Who has a $1000 and up LCD?  cornpie | 10/06/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  gotamd@... | 10/06/09
Yeah - I've really noticed that.  CobraA1 | 10/06/09
High-end pc games are too much of a risk for developers  connor33 | 10/06/09
nVidia stumbled over Vista, apparently.  Raymond Danner | 10/07/09
Vista 64?  Bill1William | 10/07/09
What hardware are you using?  tikigawd | 10/07/09
Wow!  Bill1William | 10/07/09
Bill - seriously ... REINSTALL  de-void | 10/07/09
I'm pretty sure I know what your problem is  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
@LiquidLearner: I think you may have found part of Bill's problem!  de-void | 10/07/09
My Machine's specs  tikigawd | 10/10/09
Sometimes I have to change the driver every day or two  marks055@... | 10/07/09
Glad to hear this.  Bill1William | 10/07/09
No, your experience is not typical  de-void | 10/07/09
Your problems are entirely nVidia's fault, not MS'  de-void | 10/07/09
Power problem  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
Roll back  Hate Malware | 10/07/09
Only a bit at first  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
The Market Has Slightly Changed As Well  mr1972 | 10/07/09
It's called a recession... & don't believe this article.  mr.zachcoffman@... | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  penguin.balances@... | 10/06/09
So what does that mean?  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
You'll still get updates.  CobraA1 | 10/06/09
Ok  NStalnecker | 10/07/09
update for GeForce 6 and above  shellcodes_coder | 10/07/09
Not really - the latest updates cause foul ups  chrome_slinky@... | 10/07/09
NVidia drivers  Doug Vitale | 10/07/09
Agreed...  rx7racer | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  shellcodes_coder | 10/06/09
The thing is  NStalnecker | 10/07/09
hmm  shellcodes_coder | 10/07/09
Competition is Always Needed  jpr75_z | 10/07/09
RE: Nvidia is dead?  wolflight | 10/07/09
You're citing "Dancing in the aisles" Charlie?  georgeou | 10/07/09
Charlie's still carrying that grudge  KWRussell | 10/07/09
I saw this coming....  sandmanfvr | 10/07/09
So, if games are not pushing graphics...  Grayson Peddie | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Evisscerator | 10/07/09
RE: Is Nvidia dead?  wolflight | 10/07/09
Market changes  terry flores | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  johnson_robert_roy@... | 10/07/09
That's a fair question.  nyelian | 10/07/09
Re: That's a fair question  wolflight | 10/07/09
In the end, there can onky be one lowest cost producer.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/07/09
In short, no.  Joe_Raby | 10/07/09
Confirmed  KWRussell | 10/07/09
Are the non-CPU components dead?  BorgX | 10/07/09
RE: Are the non-CPU based components dead?  wolflight | 10/07/09
If they can get around Intels ridiculous liscencing fees.  Hate Malware | 10/10/09
GPU's are not dead at all  Jimster480 | 10/07/09
Doubt it  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 10/07/09
Doubt it too.  green alien | 10/07/09
There are only a few games that use CUDA.  mjolnar@... | 10/07/09
Um, what?  Joe_Raby | 10/07/09
Thank god!  mr.zachcoffman@... | 10/07/09
CUDA will eventually be used by games engines ...  de-void | 10/07/09
I doubt it  Joe_Raby | 10/08/09
CUDA?  Bill1William | 10/07/09
Cuda is already being widely used... And btw...  mr.zachcoffman@... | 10/07/09
Sorry Bill, but no!  de-void | 10/07/09
Cuda?  Hate Malware | 10/07/09
Earth to you...  mr.zachcoffman@... | 10/07/09
Any game that uses PhysX benefits.  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
nvidia should have learned from 3dfx's mistakes  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
PhysX . . .  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
Um, no  Joe_Raby | 10/08/09
ATI = limited product life  mark@... | 10/07/09
ATI = SUCK  BOUND4DOOM | 10/07/09
ATI=?  Bill1William | 10/07/09
Bill ... again, sorry, but you're wrong!  de-void | 10/07/09
How  Hate Malware | 10/07/09
4000 and 5000 series cards are far superior to nvidia's counterparts...  LiquidLearner | 10/07/09
I hope not  nilotpal_c | 10/07/09
NVidia is dead? So why doesn't Intel buy it?  Pyrotech_z | 10/07/09
Three reasons  Joe_Raby | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Vahidm | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  jketola@... | 10/07/09
They must have forgot about healthcare  RedM3 | 10/07/09
nVidia is likely shifting it's attention to another market  Drakaran | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Bill1William | 10/07/09
Fermi Chip reveals much of NIVIDIA's thoughts  Takalok | 10/07/09
sad  357ammo | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Naryan | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Info-Safety, LLC | 10/07/09
???  DT Colorado | 10/07/09
So, you're saying that your new monitor caused your machine to blue-screen?  de-void | 10/07/09
Didn't see anyone disagree about ATI 5xxx killing the NVIDIA  Speednet | 10/07/09
GOOD NEWS... READ THIS!!!  it1337 | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  txyankee | 10/07/09
NVidia is NOTHING but dead! Are you on AMD's payroll ?  anodynos | 10/07/09
No NVIDIA? No way!  Steve Goldman | 10/07/09
Just showed up to see if people get riled here  mlindl | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Hate Malware | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  Cyclops116 | 10/07/09
Sounds like you jumped the gun a bit  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
And while we're at it . . .  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
Good Riddance  CptMatt | 10/07/09
humm  CobraA1 | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  jlutgring | 10/07/09
"multi-GPU rings" ??  [deXter] | 10/07/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  FlyingsCool | 10/08/09
Nvidia still has nice Tegra processor  IE8 | 10/08/09
RE: Is NVIDIA dead?  shunfu dragon | 10/08/09
People are getting tired of infinite dev...  mikifinaz1@... | 10/08/09
1  Hate Malware | 10/10/09
No problem for me  blackepyon01@... | 10/15/09

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